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Supply chain source confirms 12MP rear camera for the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus

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Supply chain source confirms 12MP rear camera for the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus
One of the most leaked specs about the upcoming Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus, are the 12MP cameras that are supposed to be found on the back of both models. That would be up from the 8MP snappers currently found on the Apple iPhone 6 and Apple iPhone 6 Plus. The latest version of this rumor comes from a source inside Apple's supply chain, who spoke with Business Insider.

The supply chain source says that Apple has ordered five element lenses for the new iPhone models. The component is said to now be in mass production. Considering that Apple is reportedly going to unveil the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus on September 9th, it is a good thing that the part is being produced at this stage.

Each element is similar to a stand-alone lens. When melded together, they allow the camera to capture information in more detail. They are actually made of plastic, and cost only $1 each. Of course, Apple protects the lens with a sapphire glass cover to guard against scratches. But the five element camera lens is actually behind the rear cameras with six element lenses being churned out by some Android producers. The OnePlus 2, for example, has a 6 element lens on its 13MP rear camera. This allows more light to come into the camera for sharper and clearer images. It also allows the camera to take better pictures under low-light conditions.

For iPhone users, there is some good news. Apple is said to be considering producing a six-element camera lens for the 2016 Apple iPhone 7 models.

source: BusinessInsider

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posted on 24 Aug 2015, 02:27 1

3. LIBERALSrSHlT (Posts: 21; Member since: 17 Aug 2015)


Hope the camera uses a Sony sensor.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:06 8

10. ibend (Posts: 4579; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


isnt it obvious? o.O
samsung's sensor is too expensive for them, and omnivision's sensor still cant compete on highend level

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 04:56 2

24. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 308; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


Rofl. Please be quiet and enjoy your device.

Samsung's sensor is too expensive..... Sony's sensors are the standard of industry. Even Samsung uses them as often as they can in their phones.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:12 5

25. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


I'm not even sure why you posted that.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:26 1

28. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 308; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


Yea. Should have ignored him.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 07:16

35. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Right.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:35 2

30. shahrooz (Posts: 738; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


everyone knows apple aims for the lowest possible prices when they are the one who is buying, heck they even optimize the hell out of their OS just to sell a +700$ phone with 1 GB RAM. but yeah it is not the only reason why they went with sony.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:40

31. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 308; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


And its their good right to do so. As long as they can keep up with the competition I don't see anything wrong with that. This year however, they really need to go for 2GB of RAM. There is no way to avoid it anymore.

I mean it must be frustrating for Android OEMs to see that Apple can achieve their level of performance with so much less hardware. If Google only decided to abandon Java based Android and moved to C++ and objective C instead. This would kick iOS' butt. Imagine Android optimized on the same level as iOS. It would be the absolute killer OS.

Don't get me wrong, I am very well aware of the fact that Google has made significant progress in terms of Android optimization with KitKat. But it still is well behind a sleek C++ and objective C based iOS.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 06:35

33. Podrick (Posts: 711; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


"If Google only decided to abandon Java based Android and moved to C++ and objective C instead." Is that possible? To replace Java with C++ on Android? Sorry I'm not hardcore tech guy so don't know much about these languages.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:31 1

44. Finalflash (Posts: 3085; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


God the marketing misinformation is real with you people. iOS isn't efficient, it is just restricted in what it can do. The reason they can accomplish so much with 1gb of ram is because they accomplish nothing with 1gb of ram. You know why multi window and higher resolution iPhones can't happen, it's because 1gb of ram isn't enough. Android manufacturers with higher resolution screens and more RAM can accomplish much better battery life than pretty much all iPhones, making them at the same if not more efficient.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:41 1

45. Finalflash (Posts: 3085; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


To add to that, chopping my arms off and then surviving on less food/resources is more closer to Apple's methodology of efficiency. It is more efficient, but by being destructive rather than actually increasing efficiency. And no moving to C++ will not make it better because of how many devices the code needs to run on. Java uses a virtual machine which makes it inefficient but you guarantee your code runs without having to talk to the hardware directly which is handles by the virtual machine. If they went with the non emulation route, all apps would have to be rewritten to 64 bit as iOS needed instead of just the virtual machine going 64 bit and all apps being compatible automatically as with ART. There are ups and downs to both.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:09

58. Podrick (Posts: 711; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


Wrong reply button dude. But do you know the answer to my question? Google didn't help.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 06:58 2

34. Ordinary (Posts: 2316; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


Lol.

Android uses ART which already makes it great on how fast your app will open and so on. Android uses C++, it depends to developer if he will write in C++ to develop app or not. Even so it wont make a difference. iOS is not optimized as you think and its not running old hardware... They need to up to 2GB of RAM cause of multi-tasking which Android has it from 2.3 Gingerbread. Also when you have ton of features your OS wont run fine no matter how hard you "optimize" it.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:06

48. Ruturaj (Posts: 1329; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Actually running native apps and having direct access to hardware would make android much faster. Having intermediate virtual machine will never run as good as native code. And java vs c++ is very big debate for developers too, for performance Java can never match c++. But c++ is more like, great power comes great responsibility, you have to manage memory and don't f**k things up with memory leak. You can see that Samsung's tizen performs pretty good on low specs too. I hope they develop it pretty good creating competition for android so google will step up game more.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 02:32 10

5. SIGPRO (Posts: 1432; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


12MP Camera whahahaah, Apple welcome to the year 2009!

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:22 3

14. ibend (Posts: 4579; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


but this 12MP is better than 21MP camera!!!
lol, JK..
at most, this phone will use same sony's sensor used in the upcoming Z5 with lowered megapixels..
but,but.. lower megapixels = bigger pixel size = more light to capture = better low-light image!!
lol, 16MP LG G4 easily beat 8MP i6 on low-light

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 08:37

38. jeroome86 (Posts: 1124; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)


You mean iPhone 2008 has been beating Android cameras all the way up to 2014? I guess your right.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:13

40. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


The pureview cameras in Lumias have been beating Android and IOS cameras all the way up until the LG G4(which only does better in low light).

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:02

54. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


This was more to do with Google OS api , that why with the new api 2.0 all the Google OS phones have made theniphomes look crap this year , apart from htc, hahahahhahahah

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 12:31

61. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


HTC's cameras have never been good, from what I can remember.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:32

59. cnour (Posts: 745; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)


Your comment proves how stupid are you!!!!! Disconnected person....

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 02:47 1

6. SirYar (Posts: 351; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Revolutionary.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 02:55 1

9. manojmcn (Posts: 534; Member since: 16 Jul 2015)


PhoneArena should be renamed to PornArena coz everytime I visit the site it redirects to Playstore.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:08

11. ibend (Posts: 4579; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


what about "PlayArena"?
just instal adblocker, or install better browser

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:08

12. Ordinary (Posts: 2316; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


cambodian patriot aka snakeboy is confirmed kid

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:11 1

13. vivaapple (Posts: 31; Member since: 02 Jun 2015)


And it will be better again than those 21mp camera of android devices out there. of course android Fan will go wild to alter the truth.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:23 3

16. ibend (Posts: 4579; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


lets see blind camera result, lol

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:25 2

17. pt020 (Posts: 83; Member since: 08 Apr 2014)


Apple does not produce cameras,
they buy it from Sony.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 04:21 1

22. SIGPRO (Posts: 1432; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Yes the camere is a from Sony, but software is made by Apple.
You can have a great camerea but if the software is crap the camera performance will be crap!

Iphone movie/photo quality is not that good but just average!
Everyone who denies that is a blind fool!

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 03:28 2

19. fyahking (Posts: 859; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)


My s6, G4, note 4 and note 5 already takes better pics than your pathetic iphone. Who the hell came up with that generic name for a smartphone?lol

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 04:18 11

21. Awaragardiyan (Posts: 134; Member since: 17 May 2012)


cook : the new iphone comes with 12 mp protruding camera. we are first to do so.

isheep : wow! this gonna change everything. take my money, my lungs, my kidney, my balls . . .

nokia : lol

samsung : lol

lg : lol

sony : lol

spice : lol

xiaomi : lol

everyone : lol

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 04:24 3

23. SIGPRO (Posts: 1432; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Don't forget Sony Ericsson they were the first with a 12MP camera phone :)

Still the best camera phones are the Pureview 808 and the Lumia 1020....period!

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:17

42. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


As an owner of a Lumia 1020, I will admit that it is not the best at low light photography anymore, but under good daylight conditions and with the proper person operating the device, it will beat any other device.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:15

41. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)


Microsoft: "rofl"

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:23 1

26. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Why not just move up to 16.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:31 1

29. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 308; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


My assumption is that Apple will make use of its 12MP, meaning that Apple will not downscale images to 8MP. Well, lets see what the first tests will show. I wait for iPhone 7 or Z5+ anyway because I am buying via contract which is due in DEC next year.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 07:17 1

36. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Makes sense. I just paid my balance, and upgraded to the 64 gig Note 5. +1

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:04

55. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Is it good?, getting my plus in the uk on the 3rd and I will have got this over the note 5 anyways due to looks (sorry) in gold

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:08 1

56. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Absolutely excellent.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 22:31

63. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


What is the user available storage?

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 05:24 2

27. AtheK (Posts: 44; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


We at apple took to the board to understand how we can give our user a better overall experience, without thinking too much about the megapixels. It is the software and hardware that should work together, so presenting the revolutionary 0.3mp iLIGHTSight camera, it captures so much light that the picture can not be seen on the screen. All you see on screen is LIGHT, LIGHT and more Light.

:P

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 06:22 2

32. tnuc2014 (Posts: 255; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)


That's funny...I could just imagine Ive's voice whilst I was reading that...with the required pauses in between each sentence of course!

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:26

50. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Apple is really just about balancing out things well.

Because they used relatively low megapixel sensor doesn't mean they will lover/increase it further, unless it will help to increase the image quality.

They won't go with too many or too little pixels, they will try to find the sweet spot.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 07:29

37. InsertUsernameHere (Posts: 426; Member since: 31 Aug 2014)


It's about time that they upgraded the megapixel count. Hopefully, the front camera will be upgraded as well.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:07

39. miket1737 (Posts: 2541; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)


6s and 6s plus camera are going to be very good and highly competitive no doubt about it

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:30 1

43. sissy246 (Posts: 994; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


But I thought icrap 8mp camera is the best so no need to upgrade it. Isn't that what apple and apple fanboys said lol

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:51

46. PhoneCritic (Posts: 691; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Yes, until Apple says other wise. lol, it the marketing that plays a huge role. Sometimes we just drink the kool-aid even though we should know better.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:35 1

53. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


The only "marketing" that plays role here is the fact that people love the iPhone.

They love the great iSight camera now, and they will love it when it will take even better photos in the Next iPhone and they will mostly don't care about megapixels.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:30

51. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Even if it's the best, Apple is only thinking about how to improve it even more.

If it means adding more megapixels, they will do that.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 09:56 2

47. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Really sad. 16MP camera are industry standards for top tier smartphones for 2 years now, and Apple is only going to 12MP? Right out the box brand new, it still wont take better pictures than a 2 year old Galaxy S5.

If the front camera finally gonna be 2.0MP, while top brands like Samsung, have 3.7 in a year old phone and 5MP on the latest greatest.

What does a company that has $200BN give to their loyal sheep/customers? NOTHING!!! So glad I jumped that ship after just 2 models. Really sad how the iPhone is simply nothing more than a mid-range, overpriced piece of crap.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:24

49. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


How does megapixels relate to "industry standards" or product cost ?

And if Apple is giving nothing to you (excluding the entire meaning of your discusion ) what other companies gave you ?

And what tech is missing on the iPhone that makes it "midrange" ?

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:09 1

57. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


UFS or emmc 5.1 both easy for Apple to add but you not getting them, oh dear
(Both can have problems with sd cards and 100% no go with ufs, as Apple makes there own CPUs and do not use sd cards, then this is all about cost and cost only I.e. You getting RiP off)

2nd battery size as Samsung was easy able to add 2550 battery in the s6, iPhone as hm, yes it will not even be close

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 11:43

60. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 308; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


I assume that you refer to UFS2.0? That was not available last year when Apple launched iPhone 6. Samsung introduced it with 2015 flagship.

Battery: I agree. No discussion there. Apple does not do its best there. However, no-one complains about the battery lifetime of the 6 plus. So I guess that Apple has quite good power management.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 15:34

62. Ordinary (Posts: 2316; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)


It was released in 2013 actually, Samsung was first to use it. iPhone 6s will most likely have same eMMC 5.0. They should better went with 5.1 cause those write speeds are too slow on 5.0.

If they increase the resolution to 1440p (6s plus) and 1080p (6s) battery will drain a lot faster. Unless they use AMOLED instead of LCD.

posted on 24 Aug 2015, 10:31

52. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


I am just really excited about all that great stuff Apple is going to bring !

posted on 25 Aug 2015, 22:34

64. sissy246 (Posts: 994; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Lol, keep hoping lol

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