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Sony's 2013 flagships tipped, Q4 might see a quad-core Cortex-A15 beast with a huge battery

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Sony's 2013 flagships tipped, Q4 might see a quad-core Cortex-A15 beast with a huge battery
Sony already rose to prominence among Android manufactures this year, snatching the 2nd place from HTC, with just the almighty Samsung before it. If the rumored Sony Yuga/Odin flagships for the first half of next year are any indication, it might also carry this trend into 2013.

After all, the leaks point to 5-inchers with Full HD displays, quad-core processors and 13 MP Exmor RS cameras on the back, which won't be something to sniff at even in the summer of next year.

Now a user in the leaky Sony forum for their upcoming machines, is confirming the specs we expect for the Odin/Yuga, but throws a few more devices in the mix, if Google's translation is to be trusted:

quarterly flagship machine:
5 inch 1080P screen
A15 4-core
3GB RAM
3,000 mAh battery
16 megapixel camera
overall size and Yuga almost. The hardware configuration the stereotypes too early to say, may change next October.

first half of the high-end machine:
Xperia 4 - 720p ~ 360PPI, 12MP, MSM8960T, 1.5GB, microSD, 16GB, 1800mAh
Xperia - 1080p 2400mAh
Xperia 5R - 1080p 440PPI, 13MP, APQ8064, LTE, 2GB, microSD, 32GB, 2800mAh, waterproof IP57
Xperia 6 - 1080p ~ 370PPI, 13MP, APQ8064, LTE, 3GB, microSD, 32GB, 3500mAh

One is a mid-ranger destined for H1, with a gig and a half of RAM, and the other a 6" handset with 3 GB of RAM and the mind-boggling 3,500 mAh battery. We've heard rumors about a 6" phone from Sony, and we've had Toshiba demonstrate one high-res panel of this size before. Sony and Toshiba are partners in the Japan Display Co undertaking, so anything is possible, but a 6" size seems too much already, unless it is devoid of the bezel.

The most interesting part of the tip, however, is the Q4 flasghip of Sony, said to be intended for an October release. It is listed as a quad-core Cortez-A15 endeavor, but neither Qualcomm, nor NVIDIA with Tegra 4 are in the mix. It is also claimed to feature 3 GB of RAM, 16 MP camera, and 3,000 mAh battery, all worthy ingredients. The overall size is said to be around the Yuga, with the final design still being decided upon. 

Now that phone would be a sight to behold - between the 5" of the Droid DNA and eventually Galaxy S IV, the rumored 5.5" Optimus G2, and the claimed 5/6" Sony flagships, next year is shaping up to push the final limits of smartphone screen size and resolution.

source: IT168

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This story is part of: Sony 2013 roadmap(5 updates)

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posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:17 41

1. Thephonegeek (Posts: 118; Member since: 22 Nov 2012)


Holy cow. Samsung is gonna have a stronger competitor after all. Sony is really getting the competition over the limit. And I am a sony fan. Yay Sony.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:43 14

12. MeoCao (unregistered)


This is great, I can already see Sony elbow SS from top spot of Android world.

I know that Sony is busy with software thing this year, and next year will be the year of Sony comeback.

It will be 4 horse race Sony - SS - LG - HTC I guess.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:48 7

15. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Don't under estimate the companies from China (Huawei, ZTE & Lenovo) their phones are somewhat equally spec to those by the Big Boys ( Samsung, Sony, LG, HTC) but they're more affordable. A real bang for buck I say. Tho in the states they'll probably won't grab that much attention. . .

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:14 8

22. MeoCao (unregistered)


Sony, and now HTC have learned from SS example: specs and design is easy part, the hard part is software optimisation and marketing.

The Chinese have great potential but I guess it will take them a few years before they can compete in top end of the market.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:20

23. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Agree, I'm actually seeing Android dominating more come 2013 in the mobile space thanks to those Chinese Company's ultra aggressive pricing.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:21

24. blingblingthing (Posts: 459; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)


Exactly. Give us the hardware and a few tricks. And for all of our sakes give it an ad so everyone knows of it.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:48

32. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Precisely. Ad's, informative Ad's.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:51 6

33. Commentator (Posts: 2494; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


By saying "quarterly flagship machine" Sony has confirmed that they'll be releasing a new flagship every three months or so (which they have already been doing for at least a year). Not sure if this is a good thing or not. It obviously hasn't worked for HTC in the past, and Samsung and Apple both only release one major flagship per year to tremendous success.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 09:31 5

36. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5951; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Sammy will basically be announcing their flagship 2013 phone next month and probably shipping in April-May-June timeframe. Nothing like sucking all of the oxygen out of the room....

Sony needs to step up it's game. Even Apple is feeling the heat from Sammy.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 09:43

38. MeoCao (unregistered)


This is 1 of many possibilities, this is early stage of mobile market development and things will change wildly. I think there will be several big players coexist in the Android ecosystem similar to HP, Lenovo, Dell... in Windows PC.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 10:30

41. oister85 (Posts: 409; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


Actually sony is learning from Samsung . Sammy just to release phones every 3 month low end To mid range to high end I think that is a strategy.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 18:53

59. Nadr1212 (Posts: 741; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


I hope the "1.5" GB in the Xperia 4 mean 1.5 GigaBytes of ram, NOT storage (cuz some phones actually have that)

JUST 4 any buyers sake.

posted on 13 Dec 2012, 18:23

76. thethirdelric (Posts: 2; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)


It did say RAM

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:12 11

21. pankajgupta (Posts: 59; Member since: 09 Aug 2012)


Gonna be a monster of a phone... Best of All. :)
SONY FTW :)

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:46

31. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Daniel.P don't you have anything to say on this article or posts....?
™®©

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 15:17

51. htc_prep (Posts: 303; Member since: 09 Oct 2009)


@thephonegeek you are very very true sony has had a beautiful line up of devices i would love to spend my money on, BUT the only way that Sony can contend with Sammy is if they break into the US market. one device sprinkled on 1 or 2 carriers every now and again.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 18:09

54. richardyarrell2011 (banned) (Posts: 510; Member since: 16 Mar 2011)


Samsung welcomes all challengers any time. Samsung owns this space and you can bank on the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 having 6inch flexible screen, 1080p resolution, 2.0ghz quadcore Exynos 5 processor, 3gb of ram, 16megipix camera, 32 or 64gb of internal storage, 64gb micro sd card slot, 3.0 front facing camera. Rest assured nobody who is not in this space today will make a threat to Samsung they own this smartphone/tablet market. The Galaxy Note 2 is leading the way. Software and features alone makes Samsung the best manufacturer period.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:26 4

2. redmd (Posts: 909; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Apple should also up their game. iPhone 6 should have a 5 inch 1080p screen. I can only wish.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:36 15

9. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


and that would be called, cornea display? or optic nerve display? :))

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:41 3

11. wendygarett (unregistered)


Please don't, I'm enjoying the 3.5 inches screen tho :(
If Apple wanna to, release another called iPhone giant...

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:45 6

14. redmd (Posts: 909; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


it's optic nerve display. Apple should patent that. lol

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 09:35 1

37. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5951; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Not gonna happen. Apple's strategy is to suppress competitors through lawsuits. They need to update their UI more than anything.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:26 10

3. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Big SONY fan to, but the Exynos are much better. SONY welcome back, wish you all the very best™®©

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:26 2

4. wendygarett (unregistered)


Not another beast phone :(
I'm tired to see such monsterios spec, they actually kill me tho...

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:32 7

7. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


hush. Stick with the iPhones they're not beastly (well probably).

posted on 14 Dec 2012, 22:44

79. jstahl (Posts: 79; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


are you chinese?

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:28 17

5. gazmatic (Posts: 628; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)


dafuq!!!!!

way to go sony!

hope you deliver

finally battery... the only spec i care about

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:29 5

6. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Holy smokes, SGS4 rumors + LG Optimus G2 rumors then this one? Deymmm. . . . . .

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:33 7

8. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


XPERIA 5R! it's like acro S but way better. HIGH-END IP57 certified phone, that's epic!

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:40

10. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Apir! hahaha

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:45 6

13. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


And Sony sets the bar...again.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 07:52 10

16. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)


6" display, 3GB ram & 3500 mAh battery now this phone will let me say goodbye to my Galaxy note II unless Galaxy note III stand up.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:06 1

17. kamejoko (Posts: 115; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)


Cortex A15? Now Qualcomm with Krait. Nvidia tegra4 not ready.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:09 11

18. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Soon Sony will overtake everyone, with those insane specs™®©

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:11 7

19. MauriceGerald (Posts: 18; Member since: 09 Dec 2012)


Using ARC S now and really happy with it but i think it is time to upgrade. Xperia T/TX was not the thing i was waiting. Cannot wait for 5"er, badly want it.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:11 5

20. jstahl (Posts: 79; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


Japan again leading the field.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:23

26. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


I thought its Apple iPhone for you?

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:21 1

25. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Quad core A15?
Only if they use the Exynos 5 :p

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:30 2

27. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1055; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


I guess you are joking, but just in case. The Tegra 4 (Wayne) is also a quad core A15. And it's coming Q1 2013.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 10:32 1

42. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Have you read the article?
"It is listed as a quad-core Cortez-A15 endeavor, but neither Qualcomm, nor NVIDIA with Tegra 4 are in the mix"

So, any other idea?

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 12:04 4

47. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1055; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Maybe they are going to start to develop their own? It would surprise me, but with Sony it´s possible.
OK, I admit I´m out of ideas...

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 14:44 1

50. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4108; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


TI OMAP's final stand?

posted on 11 Dec 2012, 02:35 1

65. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1055; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


More unlikely even than the previous comments.
OMAP5430 and OMAP5432 are A15 but dual cores, and TI is stepping out of mobile SoCs, so it's not likely they'll create a new quad core one.

posted on 14 Dec 2012, 00:13

77. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4108; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


A man can dream.

posted on 11 Dec 2012, 23:07

73. j__h2 (Posts: 1; Member since: 11 Dec 2012)


Why is Nvidia not in the mix?

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:36 3

28. bayhuy (Posts: 306; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


3GB RAM? Is it enough for Angry Birds?

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:45 2

30. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 804; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


All Rovio games running + more is needed to occupy that RAM

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 11:26 3

45. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


More than enough, you will be running high-end PC games, which requires over 1.5 gb ram.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:43 5

29. ryq24 (Posts: 534; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


bet samsung is quickly changing its specs for s4 to match these sony's upcoming phones.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 08:59 6

34. adjou (Posts: 102; Member since: 06 Jul 2010)


I expect the SGS4's specs to match or even better the Sony flag, but in terms of design, no matter how hard Samsung changes it, it won't match Sony's.

Though, Sony design ain't going to help them get No.1 since Samsung fan base is big and more importantly, they know how to market.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 09:02

35. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


True said+1
™®©

posted on 12 Dec 2012, 18:29

75. MC1123 (Posts: 1249; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)


japanese tech can put korean tech to dust anytime!!!

people buy samsung coz its cheaper than sony's!! but low quality looking phones!!

sony's are top notch!

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 09:53 4

39. spiderpig2894 (Posts: 442; Member since: 10 Jan 2012)


MINDBLOWN! First time to hear 3GB of RAM for a phablet. I hope those specs will be same or a little better. Goodluck Sony! I'm a proud owner of your famous Xperia S!

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 10:21 4

40. gwuhua1984 (Posts: 1237; Member since: 06 Mar 2012)


Wow, Sony had really put effort into their phones after Xperia X10. The 2nd place in Europe is well deserved.

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 10:42 3

43. smallworld (Posts: 439; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)


I... can't... breathe... !!!!!!

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 16:43

52. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


haha :)

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 11:17

44. Insignificant (Posts: 190; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


This was initially posted of Neogaf, then Esato. Then it must have been translated to another language, and back to english again. Tsk tsk, a bit late?

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 11:48

46. Pedro0x (Posts: 271; Member since: 19 Oct 2012)


APQ8064 is not Cortex A-15 so for example exynos 5440 will be more powerful at the same clock. And MSM8960T is a dual core Krait with adreno 320 and it has only 1 MB L2 cache, meanwhile APQ8064 has 2 MB L2 cache. Just wanted to clear the air :)

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 14:36 4

48. legend1 (Posts: 104; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


sony is kicking things up a notch or two??(maybe three)

posted on 10 Dec 2012, 14:42 4

49. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4108; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Looks like Samsung will have a bit of competition next year. Hopefully HTC will follow suit with giving Sammy a hard time.

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