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Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"

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That's right folks, we're back in the day care play area and Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy. Samsung apparently doesn't care much that 64-bit processing won't really help Apple all that much in the near future, nor that 64-bit support will be completely useless on an Android device (unless Android 4.4 KitKat is bringing 64-bit support.) 

Samsung has promised that its next smartphones will have "64-bit processing functionality", which of course means nothing right now. As we mentioned before, 64-bit on a mobile device doesn't mean anything unless devices get past the 4GB of RAM plateau, or the software is optimized properly. Right now, the Android system is not optimized, nor are the apps. At least Apple has updated iOS 7 for 64-bit support, even if app developers likely haven't yet, but Samsung wants to add the feature to its marketing plan without bothering to wait for Google to get the system ready, meaning the term will mean even less than it does for the new iPhone. 

As we said, it is possible that Google is going to introduce 64-bit support in Android 4.4 KitKat. It is most likely to be included if Google adds in the rumored optimizations to allow for Android to run on laptops. But, if those optimizations don't happen this time around, it is highly unlikely that Google will bother to add support. Samsung could add in some optimizations itself, but without system-level optimization, it likely won't mean much. Of course, like Apple, Samsung would be doing this for marketing rather than actual performance benefits right now. 

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posted on 12 Sep 2013, 01:02 27

1. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

The sad thing is Apple never innovate, and therefore Samsung never copies ... NOT.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:10 16

29. Trex95 (Posts: 1069; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)

Samsung never copy! Samsung has 2 dept in mobile section RB and copy paste Lol.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:10 18

30. chrisgringo (Posts: 5; Member since: 13 Aug 2013)

I don't think Samsung is jealous of Apple but I do think a certain fanboy writer is butthurt, intimidated, sour and has Sammy iRage! =D

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:21 3

33. Larry_ThaGr81 (Posts: 449; Member since: 26 May 2011)

I don't see how Apple consumers will benefit from 64 bit processing anytime soon. What's the point of introducing it as though it will have an immediate impact on Apple consumers.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:26 9

34. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

I actually have to give props to Samsung for not staying silent.

Also, you'd be a fool to think Samsung wasn't already working on 64 bit processors with the intent to have them ready within another generation or so, and Android will likely include such optimization anyway with KitKat. Android could be the key to breaking the Apple-Microsoft mainline computing duopoly.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:34

39. special4u (Posts: 63; Member since: 22 May 2013)

samsung is waiting ARM finalize the design for them so they can put exynos logo on it

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:40 2

41. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

chrisgringo: the writer was trying to be funny, and I dovetailed with sarcasm -- okay, you can't connect the ellipses; we understand.

I'll be serious for a moment, both literally and figuratively speaking, so please check out link:http://www.incipio.com/cases/ipod-cases/ipod-nano-6g-cases/ipod-nano-6g-ngp-wristband-case.html

It's a watchband for the iPod Nano 6. Just a few days ago, Samsung released the "Gear" -- if you ask me, that Gear is an IMPROVEMENT on the Apple product. People were using the iPod Nano as a smartwatch, but Apple **never** innovates. To a lot people, the iPod Nano was an attempt at a smartwatch. Enough said.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:41

42. joey_sfb (Posts: 6453; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

it's a software future proofing effort by Apple. they don't have much feature to focus their marketing therefore Apple talk a lot on 64 bit much like what Microsoft did during the Windows 7 launch. I have upgrade my desktop gaming pc from 32bit to 64bit Windows 7 with zero percent speed improvement.

Still necessary if I need the full benefit of my 16Gb ram. No higher fps but still give me great satisfaction of my achievement. Especially after overcoming driver problem and game crushes due to 64 bits.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 02:42 19

43. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)

and i bet they have lots of photocopy machine in there...

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 03:44 3

54. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

ARM has been planning 64bit processors for some time, to come out early next year. It was obvious that 64bit was coming next and soon. Apple just rushed to be first probably to set up lawsuits. And the worst part is it's virtually gainless with only one or two gb of ram.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 04:24

59. Zeus.k (unregistered)

Well it makes perfect sense to. Include 64 bit support since Samsung is the only major manufacturer to have 3GB ram and they might break the 4GB RAM barrier with note4. Apple hasn't even put 2GB of ram in anything. Apple is first to include something doesn't mean that others weren't working on it.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 04:42 1

61. yowanvista (Posts: 341; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)

No it doesn't make sense, Cortex-A15 SoCs can already address up to 1TB of RAM with LPAE enabled.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 04:45

62. parvsingh05 (Posts: 98; Member since: 11 Jan 2012)

There are so many features that Samsung has put on there fone but stil not getting utilised completely. If apple does it , usay what's da point putting it in a phone right now, future is here

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 05:33

69. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)

I'm willing to bet that Samsung had no plans at all to incorporate a 64 bit processor. The iPhone 5S is launching BEFORE the Note III, yet Samsung was unable to incorporate the 64-bit processor in a phone that's 2-3 volume of the iPhone and has 3 gigs of RAM? Not even the Galaxy Tab will have it? They obviously weren't planning for it.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 06:20

70. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

I'm not sure about ARMs implementation, but when I tried enabling address extension on my old Windows/Intel 32bit box with 4gb about 6 years ago, it not only gave no improvement, it actually got really unstable. To the point that I disabled it and later picked up Vista Ultimate 64bit and installed it on another partition and dual booted. The XP partition used 3gb, the Vista used 4gb.

But even with the extra gig of ram, 64bit yielded no discernable or benchmark improvements. Whether I ran the 32 bit versions in XP, or alongside the 64bit versions in Vista, benefits were negligible.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 06:26 1

71. tedkord (Posts: 13235; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Because they understand that 64 bit yields negligible improvements unless more than 4gb of ram is employed. The Note 3 had only 3gb of ram.

Read my reply above. I got virtually zero gain from going 64bit in my old desktop. That's why so few desktop programs are 64bit even today. My newest PC has 16gb ram, so it likely sees a benefit, though I can't prove it because I've got only 64bit OS installed.

Yes, manufacturers were planning the move to 64bit, mainly because ARM had already announced they were coming out with 64bit cites early next year.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 07:41

86. joey_sfb (Posts: 6453; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)

actually 64bit is slightly slower compare to Windows xp 32 bit for a very long time but now nobody bother with Windows 32bit anymore especially newer build system.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:02 1

92. thedarkside (Posts: 654; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

Samsung made the A7 chips in the iphone 5s/5c.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 08:25 2

94. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)

I think you should first learn the meaning of a smart watch and why an MP3 player isn't one

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 09:09

104. Trololol (Posts: 33; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)

yes but it has custom silicon

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 09:57 2

108. jaxson983 (Posts: 43; Member since: 11 Aug 2013)

Samsung is making the A7...is it coping if you are making it in the first place. Also its all useless right now anyway. You will prob have to buy an iphone 6 or 6s or 7 before its worth anything same with Samsung unless they add the ram.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 10:47 2

112. ph00ny (Posts: 1397; Member since: 26 May 2011)

it would make more sense for samsung to use 64bit than apple since they're getting close to the 4GB memory limit of 32bit

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:35 1

118. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3342; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

Why would they implement 64 bit now, if android doesnt even support it, nor any apps out there.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:37 1

119. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3342; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)

They mass producing it, the cpu itself is designed by Apple. But it is useless right now.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:44 1

120. designerfx (Posts: 76; Member since: 26 Mar 2013)

nothing here is relevant. the article title is crap, and so are the comments.

Every ARM processor is moving towards X64 for a variety of reasons. This has no correlation to any individual vendor.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 11:50

121. Trololol (Posts: 33; Member since: 12 Sep 2013)

"useless right now" i agree with u sir
but we dont know what will happen next, right?

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 12:51 2

125. johnbftl (Posts: 281; Member since: 09 Jun 2012)

I don't see how Samsung would be copying Apple by implementing a 64-bit processor. That A7 processor that Apple is carrying under the hood is made by Samsung, not Apple. One cannot copy or steal technology created by oneself. It'd be like accusing the German scientists the U.S. employed after World War 2 of copying the designs of the jet propulsion engine from the Nazis.

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:06

126. scumbledEGG (unregistered)

64bit??? what a gimmick!!! nahaha! clear win, apple takes home the "W" haha!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 13:10

128. Dr.Tom (Posts: 46; Member since: 11 May 2013)

Don't forget that we are now at 3Gb level, when at the start of 2013, 1 Gb was the norm. By the time the new SamyS5 comes out, it will probably have 4Gbs ram, which means that it can take advantage of a 64 bit cpu. If not the Note 4 will have more than 4Gbs, and its the new gold standard for phones! Until the Apple 7 arrives, which will then be forced to get atleast 4 Gb ram just to keep up!

posted on 12 Sep 2013, 14:43

131. sgogeta4 (Posts: 394; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)

But they still made it...

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