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Samsung exec says 4K-resolution smartphone screens will become more mainstream

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Samsung exec says 4K-resolution smartphone screens will become more mainstream
Last year, Sony showed the industry and consumers that 4K-resolution screens on smartphones can be done. But although it managed to showcase its display facility's strengths, it couldn't set an example for the rest of its peers. 2016's flagship smartphones are still shipping with 1080p and 1440p-resolution displays, and it looks like both users and mobile technologists are content with the screens we have today. This doesn't mean smartphone top dogs such as Samsung aren't looking to push 4K-resolution screens when the time comes. Samsung believes that the technology does have a future, and could play a key role in improving its portfolio.

"Eventually, 4K screens will become more mainstream," Kyle Brown, head of technology, content and launch management at Samsung told TechRadar. He did admit that there isn't "enough of a noticeable difference" at the typical smartphone screen size to "make it really stand out and be worth the extra cost to users."

The Samsung Gear VR could benefit from a resolution increase.

The Samsung Gear VR could benefit from a resolution increase.

At the moment, 1440p resolution is widely considered overkill, as the difference with 1080p screens of the same size is difficult to notice. There's not a lot of content to make actual use of it, either, but that's about to change. Virtual reality experiences are becoming a thing of interest among consumers, and mobile VR headsets could benefit from 4K resolution screens to provide a sharper picture and deeper immersion.

Samsung is pushing hard into the area with its Gear VR headset and Milk video streaming service. Brown confirmed that 4K resolution "would be a benefit for VR, as the size of the pixels would be less and you wouldn't see them on the screen as closely." Samsung is indeed looking at the technology, with the executive explaining that 4K screens will happen at the "right time," which would be the "point we can mass-produce a 4K screen that will be enough of a consumer benefit to make it worthwhile." Brown didn't give any time frame or other hints when this might happen.

source: TechRadar

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posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:37 10

1. Trakker (Posts: 283; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


4K is a waste of pixels, battery and processing power since no one on Earth besides the handful using VR can tell the difference between 2K and 4K

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:56

8. hoomanPeasants (unregistered)


Totally agree. Though there is no phone with 2K resolution. So it makes little sense.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:19 2

13. Trakker (Posts: 283; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)


I meant QHD

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:23 3

14. vincelongman (Posts: 3945; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Or maybe 1080p

2K is 2048x1080
1080p is 1920x1080

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:36 3

26. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7769; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Theer are phone with 2K displays. The 1440x2560 is 2K and 1920x1080 is also a 2K resolution.

Look it up.

These are support and considered 2K resolutions: I've posted this so many times before. Peopel are too lazy to verify facts and rather lie or purposely give misinformation and have other believe them and make others as stupid as they are:

DCI 2K (native resolution) 2048 × 1080 1.90:1 (256:135, ~17:9) 2,211,840
DCI 2K (flat cropped) 1998 × 1080 1.85:1 2,157,840
DCI 2K (CinemaScope cropped) 2048 × 858 2.39:1 1,755,136
PC 2K (1080p) 1920 × 1080 1.(7):1 (16:9) 2,073,600

If the display you are using is 1920x1080 and uses a 16:9 aspect ration, then it is a 2K resolution display.

1920 is a rounded number. As long as you have 2,000,000M+ pixels in any one direction (usually acrss...then it si 2K.) Why si thsi so hard to understand.

The Note 3/S5 both are 2K resolutions. The S4 also is a 2K display phone.
if the iPhone 6 Plus and 6S Plus use 16:9 there display is also 2K, though a crappy oen compared to LG and Samsung.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 14:13 3

31. marorun (Posts: 2859; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


VR headset with there own screen are the future quality wise.

Those lense based VR using a cellphone as a screen are crap.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 05:12

42. iushnt (Posts: 1481; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


crap because it's made by Samsung right?

posted on 04 Mar 2016, 15:03

47. mrmessma (Posts: 154; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Samsung is far from the only company making them, and yes, they're pretty inferior, but have a far lower pricepoint making them popular for now. Standalone VR experiences are most likely the future.

posted on 06 Mar 2016, 13:19

50. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)


f**k no, you bonehead! Samsungs VR is the ONLY mobile VR worth using. Cardboard and the myriad versions are junk, but Samsung, as usual, deliver quality and show why they're the mobile leaders in all aspects.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 17:47 2

35. jasrockett (Posts: 41; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


As you said VR. In the note 5 the pixels are sooo obvious that it spoils the whole experience for me. My mate is a front line developer of VR content and all I can see is pixels. I'm 46 with dud eyes and the pixels are still so over powering. 4K will only make them a tiny bit smaller. 6 to 8K will start to get there. So stop saying 4K is over kill even though it's less than 5% using it for VR.
Bring on 4K already

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 23:46 2

38. joey_sfb (Posts: 5229; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


4K will be the standard, this is a trend. As soon as, 4k screen price normalise every OEM will include they as a selling point.

Just like every modern TV has 3D features, at least every 65" model I have checked out.

posted on 04 Mar 2016, 15:06

48. mrmessma (Posts: 154; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


That is software and hardware limitations. Try an Occulus or Vive (both 1080x1200 per eye) and tell me about the immersion breaking pixel problem. I'm not saying that 4k won't make it look better, but comparing a phone VR experience (not on its native resolution) and using that as an argument for higher res screens doesn't compute.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 07:19

45. jessyi (Posts: 321; Member since: 08 Jan 2015)


Let samsung unviel thier next flagship with a 4k screen millions will go about exited and buying it..so dont come here and say its waste.people will still buy it.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:38 5

2. Arschsalat (banned) (Posts: 158; Member since: 29 Feb 2016)


That´s good for the VR experience.

But the Battery.... ?!?

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:59 7

9. jack123 (Posts: 180; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)


Should VR can charge the phone and operate at the same time?

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:29 13

16. vincelongman (Posts: 3945; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Just do what Sony did with the Z5P and what Google recommend

1080p during normal use (or 1440p)
4K in gallary and VR apps (or 5K)

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:44 2

27. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7769; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


What about it? When 4K displays come mainstream, batteries will be larger in a smaller space as Samsung has already worked on and has shown they can do with the S7 and also 4K will be more efficnet.

I dont think a 4K display will every use less power vs a 1080p display. But so what.

You need to remember that the only content that woudl require 4K resolution would have to be native. If you tke a 1080p image or video and just stretch it to fit the screen, its not a 4K piece of media and wouldn't use any more battery power than it would on its own native display. Or if it does use more, it wont be as much as content in native 4K.

If you want to enjoy 4K, plug your device into a wall.
I have a Gear VR. When my phone is fully charged and I play a game for 30 minutes, I still have 80% of mt charge left. My eyes can only handle maybe an hour of 4K Virtual Reality before my head hurts.

Only an idiot would sit there and play a VR game for hours and hours without taking a break and considering that charging a recent Galaxy device with Quick Charge 2.0 and 3.0 will charge a phone from 0% to 50% or more in 30 mins is good enough to enjoy the VR headset.

How much more time do you actually need? Those VR games are OK, but aren't better than Xbox or PS games.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 15:39 2

33. marorun (Posts: 2859; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Your head hurt because of the crappy tech used.

Real VR dont make you feel bad like this. a few year back i played Quake at a VR stand here in Montreal played for hours and had no problem and head did not hurts ( and thats was using older tech )

I want the Playstation VR here thats will be amazing.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 05:42

43. iushnt (Posts: 1481; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


you have no idea what you r typing

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:41 3

3. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 756; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


I am more than happy with 1080p, if the screen size is upto 5.5". I dont want extra strain on performance for a unnoticeable difference. Sony made a good decision by going with 1080p. 1440p is good for note series and other phones with similar size.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:41 22

4. Subie (Posts: 424; Member since: 01 Aug 2015)


4K Note 6 is coming!

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:44 10

6. SuperAndroid507 (Posts: 231; Member since: 06 Jan 2014)


This was the very first thing that came to my mind just by reading the title of the article.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:47 1

21. TerryTerius (Posts: 1399; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


"Samsung will keep an eye on both the price to implement the tech and the ultimate benefit the change promises to bring consumers – and that it won’t move forward until it’s clearly the right time to do so."

That doesn't appear to mean it's something they're doing anytime soon. But who knows.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 23:48 1

39. joey_sfb (Posts: 5229; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I will buy a Note 6 with 4K screen for my VR Goggle otherwise no point for me to upgrade.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:02 1

10. jack123 (Posts: 180; Member since: 07 Jan 2013)


Maybe the only a reason for me to wait for Note 6 instead of S7 Edge. Hopefully, it's coming with quick charge 3.0. Pls, Sammy should take a note for the note.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:41 1

20. MrHate (Posts: 213; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)


Yeah give me a phone with 16k because why not. /s

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:04 4

24. GTNavy (Posts: 44; Member since: 13 Oct 2014)


Yes, give me a phone with a 16k screen, 16GB of RAM and 1 TB of storage. All so I can post on Facebook and play Clash of Clans. /s

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:42 15

5. submar (Posts: 281; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


Next time PA will write an article 4K isn't overkill.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 00:36 3

40. ibend (Posts: 3123; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)


maybe next year... or several years, when iPhone 9 Pro feature 4K screen, lol

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 03:47 3

41. submar (Posts: 281; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


When the first 4K iphone comes out for sure.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 10:47 4

7. cncrim (Posts: 789; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


Next stream please better battery life. How about 5 days of use on one charge?

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 15:41 2

34. marorun (Posts: 2859; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Yeah would take 5 days of use on a single charge with 1080p display vs 4k and almost 1 day of usage only lol.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:18 2

11. xondk (Posts: 1122; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


well with gear vr it does make a bit sense to up to 4k but responsiveness is going to take a hit last I checked, unless they figure a way around that?

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:18 2

12. torr310 (Posts: 769; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Keep increasing the resolutions, so we will not have the excellent battery life!

How about keep running at 1440p and only switch to 4k while running with VR?

I would love to embrace new technology with good sense and more practical.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:24 1

15. Rigbaby (Posts: 84; Member since: 06 Nov 2014)


I thought Milk Video was gone, or something?

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:34 4

17. fyah_king (Posts: 186; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


My note 5 with 2k has good battery life. So, I'd think 4k shouldn't be a problem with a bigger battery and efficient cpu.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:36 1

18. fyah_king (Posts: 186; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


QHD and not 2k.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:55 1

28. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7769; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


2560x1440...2560 is over 2.5M pixels in one direction...making it a 2K resolution.

However, QHD is better than 2K because it is a higher resolution. Its 2.5K
2K resolution si defined as having 2,000,000 pixels in one direction usually across. thus 2560 which would be 2.5K would quality as a 2K resolution provided it is in a 16:9 aspect ratio which si the same rule for full hd.

HD is 720P...Quad HD is 4 times the pixels thus its name Quad HD. Full HD is 2 times the pixels as 720p. QHD is 2 times more pixels than full HD. So QHD is actually beyond Full HD, but it is a 2K resolution by definition of having 2M pixels in one direction.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:59 1

29. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7769; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Yes it is! Well actually its better. But it is in the same family by definition.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 11:37

19. xperiaZlover (Posts: 179; Member since: 15 Nov 2015)


I think 4k is fine as long as it is only used for photos and video viewing. Good example is Z5 premium, which has almost similar or little less battery life than the galaxy S6.

For gaming 4k is overkill I guess untill 2018 of course.
I think Samsung should have introduced 4k 3d touch display for S7. I miss not having 3d touch
On the S7.
I wonder why people don't blame Samsung for this and no USB type-c and no 6GB ram and quick charge 3.0?

People are blaming Sony alot which I slightly agree too.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 12:37 1

22. Xperia14 (Posts: 300; Member since: 01 Sep 2015)


The Z5P has much better battery life than the S6.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 12:50 1

23. SenorThrottles (Posts: 213; Member since: 23 Dec 2015)


It has a lower endurance rating than the S6 on GSMarena. I can't comment on real world usage though since I don't own a Z5P.

posted on 06 Mar 2016, 13:23

51. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)


Please xplain WTF you use 3d touch for? It's a useless marketing gimmick and anyone saying otherwise is an Apple sheep trying to convince themselves they made the right decision by upgrading from their iPhone 6 to 6s for the useless 3d touch.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:26 1

25. kanagadeepan (Posts: 891; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


A non-pentile QHD screen will be much better than Pentile matrix 4K AMOLED display for VR apps, imho...

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 14:00 2

30. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 7769; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Depends on the pixel arrangement.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 18:54 2

36. mixedfish (Posts: 1144; Member since: 17 Nov 2013)


AMOLED immediately implies a handicapped pixel arrangement. It's the true reason Samsung was so quick to adopt 2k.

posted on 03 Mar 2016, 05:45 1

44. iushnt (Posts: 1481; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


and made the best display ever

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 14:40 4

32. Planterz (Posts: 1993; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


4K is pointless outside of VR (and maybe tablets). If 4K becomes mainstream, then whomever utilizes this needs to do, as mentioned by others, is what Sony did and give you FHD, or QHD (or both...hell, give us 720p) options. The biggest complaint about phones is not the resolution, but battery life. iPhone 6/6s owners don't complain about the resolution, they complain about the battery life (maybe not so much with iOS9). S6 owners constantly complain about the battery life, yet you don't hear S4 or S5 owners complain about the resolution. Yet people love the battery life of their OnePlus Ones, LG G2s, Moto G's, etc, with "antiquated" resolutions.

posted on 04 Mar 2016, 00:16 1

46. AlikMalix (Posts: 4816; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Great post... All great points!!!

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 21:21

37. great (Posts: 85; Member since: 21 Jan 2013)


mainstream and useless....

posted on 05 Mar 2016, 08:08 1

49. Cyb3ruser3005 (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Mar 2016)


First off, no offense, but in my opinion a VR headset, VR content is not realistic enough at all without 4k display. Second, What is the point of a smartphone that will soon be able to shoot high resolution, rich 4k video at 60 fps when you have a still have 1080 or even 1440 display and cannot playback the video in its native resolution? So they say 4k will mainstream yet give no time frame. I'm guessing the year 2030 easily. 4k tv sets are already becoming main stream, I would not be surprised if 8k tv sets will be available before 4k phones because phone technology seems to be slowing down. Another problem is 5G networks, Mobile carriers, plan to role out 5g but if smartphones still have the same slow hardware and lack of RAM that will be a problem. The phone sets the past two and 3 years seems almost to be the same phone repackaged.

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