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Samsung Galaxy Nexus uses some type of "fortified glass", after all

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After Corning, the makers of the reinforced Gorilla Glass found in many smartphones and tablets, tweeted that the Galaxy Nexus is not using their product in its screen package, Samsung replied that the first Android ICS handset utilizes another kind of "fortified glass". 

Samsung Galaxy Nexus uses some type of "fortified glass", after all
The company didn't specify which type, but there are alternatives out there to Corning's creation, which are not as public and advertised, but perform just as well.

Asahi's Dragontrail glass, for example, touts similar features, like being able to withstand 60 kilos on just 1mm thickness without shattering into pieces. See the presentation below:



We don't know exactly what kind of "fortified glass" Samsung is using for the Galaxy Nexus, but are fairly certain it won't break in tiny pieces with normal usage, and should survive the occasional drop on the carpet, otherwise it wouldn't have passed the QA tests each new product undegoes.

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posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:05 6

1. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Whew thank god. I was really worried when I heard it wasn't having GGlass but kudos to Samsung for this.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:32 5

9. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)


The curved display would also probably prevent it from scratches etc. and I think Samsung could have developed something better. :)

no worries.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:23 1

22. sgogeta4 (Posts: 392; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


Not surprising. Commented on this in the PA article saying that the Nexus wasn't going with Corning's Gorilla glass.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:27 3

24. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


I always encourage people to buy screen protectors for their phones. GGlass or not, they prevent scratches.

My concern is cracking the screen from being dropped. Cases can only protect so much and without GGLASS or something similar its always a fear.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 08:20 2

30. iankellogg (Posts: 155; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I think I am squarely in the minority but I never put screen protectors or cases on my phones. I strongly believe that a phone should be designed to survive anything AS IS. If your phone needs protection then it is a piece of s**t. i'm looking at you iPhone 4Shattermagnet.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 13:44

45. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


I got to agree with the part of "...a phone should be designed to survive anything as is." cases just look awful :(

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 12:47

44. robinrisk (unregistered)


How? Gorilla glass doesnt get scratched by anything short of a drilling machine, so i guess whith gorila glass there´s no need for screen protectors, it´s already built into the phone.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 18:41

48. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


I'm far more concerned with my screen getting cracked than scratched. Most scratches cant be seen unless you are under a bright light with the right angle and I have seen it first hand if you put a invishield screen protector on a phone with a scratch on it, it actually covers up the scratch and you can't see it.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:25 7

23. rd_nest (Posts: 768; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


*** NOT MY RESEARCH ***

Gorilla Glass was trademarked in 2008 for Corning's alkali aluminosilicate glass, their patent for such glass ran out some 20 years ago, anyone can make as much alkali aluminosilicate glass as they want without having to pay Corning for a name, Apple uses alkali aluminosilicate glass in the iPhone not Gorilla Glass. Using a non-name version isn't what makes them fail drop tests, since alkali aluminosilicate glass isn't shatterproof by whatever you call it but due to the design of the phone itself, alkali aluminosilicate glass is just more scratch resistant and a bit more bendable.

Glass is made by Samsung Corning Precision Glass.

It is joint venture company between Samsung and Corning.

http://www.scp.samsung.com/company/coringcompany.asp

It's the same type of glass used in S2, but without the Gorilla branding.

posted on 12 Nov 2011, 10:32

54. KRONeage (Posts: 54; Member since: 17 Apr 2011)


Samsung Corning (joint venture since 1973) merged with Samsung recently. However it is still listed in Corning's holdings. They have incorporated the Fusion Technology used in LCD Glass substrates into making mobile glass substrates.

Now they've jointly advanced the technology in their own R&D labs at Samsung. Anyway only Corning's plant in America and Japan can use the Trademark "Gorilla Glass" for mobile screens only (phones and tablet PC's). These Gorilla Glass screens must be flat by the very nature of the process used and it's the process, not the use of alkali alumino-sillicate that was patented and trademarked in "Gorilla Glass" formulation!

So in Samsung Korea had to make a fortified glass that is thicker at top and bottom than it is in the center. So the main difference is in a fortified glass (like usedNokia's N9) to achieve curved edges instead of the sharp edges of Gorrilla Glass and be of tapered thickness. It also has to be more flexible, even though no flexible phones are being made yet, Samsung Corning is ready this. The screen itself is flat. Only the glass is tapered in thickness. But the high tech Fusion process

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 18:37

55. jumpercable69 (Posts: 1; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)


Corning experimented with chemically strengthened glass in 1960, as part of an initiative called "Project Muscle". Within a few years it had developed what it named "Chemcor" glass. Corning could find no practical use for the glass at the time and the predecessor of "Gorilla Glass" was never put into mass production, excepting its use in approximately one hundred 1968 Dodge Dart and Plymouth Barracuda race cars, where the reduced weight was key. This information is from Wikipedia. You might think this is incorrect information but I heard exactly the same thing about 3 years ago. So it is correct to the best of my knowledge.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:12 8

2. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


What if this 'fortified glass' performs better than Gorilla Glass in real life?

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:25 2

4. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


who said better than? the article says just as well as.


i was actually wondering about this when i read the corning tweet. just because they aren't using the brand name doesnt mean they arent using the technology (or a very similar one)

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:53 9

17. remixfa (Posts: 13903; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


good.. i can breathe again. lol. the lack of protective glass might have been my final straw.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:29 7

25. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Agreed remix, I can get over the lack of a micro SD slot and some other gripes but it doesn't matter how awesome a phone is, it looks like s**t with a cracked screen.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:49 5

16. aries.phills (Posts: 133; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Then G Glass will have to run for its money. Technically, thats what we want. COMPETITION!!!!!!!!

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 08:54 1

33. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


sorry big boss. i need to stop posting as soon as i get to work in the morning. i misread your post somehow.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:14 3

3. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


I would like to find out bigboss, just not on my phone :P

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:28 3

5. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


That is a valid point ROARY. It is really unknown that how many people would buy the phone unless they are convinced that it is strong enough. Samsung made a mistake here.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:40 6

13. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1047; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)


Really? You really think sales are going to be hurt because it may not be gorilla glass? Whoever would pass up on this phone simply because it doesn't have gorilla glass is a (insert derogatory name here). Plus I've cracked the glass of both my phones that have gorilla glass. Gorilla glass isn't THAT great.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:36 2

27. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


What phones? I have stomped on my dead Droid x multiple times and even took a hammer to it. Not even a scratch.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 08:20

31. snowgator (Posts: 3209; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Not only is that good to know about Gorilla Glass, it sounds like a really, really good time. Wonder if I know anyone with an old "X" laying around.....

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:47 1

39. ayephoner (Posts: 837; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


my X is still in use and does have a tiny scratch on the screen. im not sure how it got there, its about 1/2 cm in length, but its there (and ive done nothing like stomping or hammering my phone)

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:56 1

40. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


Its not scratch proof but it will help a lot to prevent it from cracking.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 12:01

43. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


In the time that I worked for Verizon Wireless, I had a D1. Whenever someone asked me how durable it was I would walk them outside and literally throw the phone on the pavement.

Maybe it was a dumb idea, maybe not. All I know is I probably did that over fifty times and while the body was scratched to hell the phone continued to function properly and I never broke the screen.

I also sold a shit ton of Droids.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 16:44

47. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1047; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)


I've cracked the screens of my Samsung Fascinate and Motorola Droid.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 18:46

49. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


OG Droid and Fascinate don't have GGlass or at least the updated more durable versions found on the Droid X and SGS2. I bought a broken Droid X off of Ebay, the screen was in perfect condition. Just had a bad ESD and was basically sold cheap for parts.

I put it through a lot of tests. Stomped on the screen as hard as I could multiple times with my steel toe boots on. Not a scratch, I took a hammer to the screen multiple times. Again, not a scratch nor was it cracked.

I picked it up and threw it as hard as I could on cement floor multiple times, not a scratch on it. The back and sides of the metal were chipped of course but the screen was undamaged.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:29 3

6. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Hope to see this in 2012 Sony Smartphones.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:31 1

7. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


What do you want to see in sony smartphones?

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 02:01

53. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 801; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)


Those so called fortified glasses. . .

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:32 1

8. cnwwyo (Posts: 125; Member since: 26 May 2011)


Ocasional drop on the carpet? Lool,

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:35 2

10. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Surely. We are not talking about dropping the phone on a carpet actually and that too occasionally. We want know that if it is rigid enough or is as fragile as the apple made girl phone.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:28

35. mukrenol (Posts: 90; Member since: 03 Sep 2011)


i think the carpet drop is the weakest of the demos... but then again... the location...there's only carpets

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:38 1

11. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Hey bob even he you do not worry consumers will and nexus would lord points when compared to other premium smartphones here.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:39

12. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


I'd rather have a fingerprint, smudges proof glass than a hard, sturdy and durable glass. I always take good care of my phone. Never dropped it. But if it is both then its great.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:44 3

14. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Well I just buy an anti fingertipnt screen protector, always looks clean and feels smooth. And its drool proof for those times you forget to put the device on your desk when you go to bed

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 06:48 4

15. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Hope we See a drop test to check the quality of the glass, maybe it's dragon scale and we can live happy

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:45

38. protozeloz (Posts: 5375; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


meant tail

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:22 2

18. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Most of the foolish consumers are not as wise as you are and they may think that other lines of glass would give lien less protection than the gorilla glass.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:22

19. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Most of the foolish consumers are not as wise as you are and they may think that other lines of glass would give lien less protection than the gorilla glass.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:23

20. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Most of the foolish consumers are not as wise as you are and they may think that other kinds of glass would give lien less protection than the gorilla glass.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:23

21. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


Most of the foolish consumers are not as wise as you are and they may think that other kinds of glass would give less protection than the gorilla glass.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:32

26. henrickrw (Posts: 404; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Not too bad. unfortunately I wont purchase the Nexus. Good phone, but not for me. I rather my GS2 for a while.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:38 2

28. creektrails (Posts: 9; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


The only reason it would hurt sales is if some undecideds go with the Razr due to the Gglass, kevlar stainless deal. I for one considered that. I abuse the heck out of my phone. So this fortified stuff sounds good but why be evasive? Just let us know what were gonna get.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 08:27

32. snowgator (Posts: 3209; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


That is exactly what I was gonna say. Why the secret? The Nexus is going to be mass released in a very short time. If the story was a big enough concern to Samsung that they needed to react to it, give us the inside skinny!! Show how tough this protective glass is. I am a huge supporter of the added protection of gorilla glass. Please feel free to prove to me all is well. This bad boy is right at the top of the list of Verizon phones in my world. Like to be assured it is on the same level of the build of other top tier phones.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 07:43 1

29. bigboss (Posts: 74; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


That is it. Consumers want to play safe.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:27

34. mukrenol (Posts: 90; Member since: 03 Sep 2011)


just make sure apple doesn't get it in their device

APPLE, don't like STEALING other people's ideas... RIGHT?? >.>

samsung & sony GO GO GO!!!

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:33

36. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


another copycat move by Samsung... Apple did this and was crucified for not wanting to pay GG, but ohh suprise.. Samsung is doing the same thing.. kudos....

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 09:40 2

37. creektrails (Posts: 9; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Maybe so, but I-shatter never went to anything but cheap window glass. See shatter tests. Look at my daughters I-shatter 4 and my sons I-shatter pod. I am still rocking the ancient samsung omnia II. treat it like crap and no breakage in 2.5 years. Looking forward to the fortified.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 11:24 1

42. sgogeta4 (Posts: 392; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)


You're an idiot. Samsung and Corning have a joint venture for the glass. Gorilla glass is just a marketing name for one of their products. So no, Samsung isn't copying Apple, they just aren't using that specific line of glass.

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 15:24

46. Ivan6479 (Posts: 244; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


By the way iTard, iPhones don't use any type of protective glass. If you don't believe me then go ahead and drop your phone and see what happens. Here is a nice drop test comparison of the iPhone 4S vs the Galaxy S2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 18:50

50. RORYREVOLUTION (Posts: 2969; Member since: 12 Jan 2010)


You do realize that the iPhone 4S started using GGlass right? Samsung has been using GGlass on multiple devices over the past couple years and so has Motorola. Of course, you are a sheep who thinks if the iphone has it, nobody else can. Even if they used it BEFORE apple did. You really need to do some research before you say a bunch of crap.

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 00:32

51. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


wow guys please one answer... some say it didnt some say it did.... those test prove anything.. I can show you a you tube video of the Galaxy SII lagging out of the box that you wont believe.. so please.... each one of you.. shut the f up.. i dont care what you guys think ... I just wanted to make a point how you guys have double standard...

posted on 27 Oct 2011, 11:00

41. scvzw2 (Posts: 32; Member since: 20 Jun 2010)


Well as long as I can insure the device unlike the iPhone at one point I'm good! lol

posted on 28 Oct 2011, 00:35

52. gallitoking (Posts: 4684; Member since: 17 May 2011)


btw you guys are butter fingers.... i have had the droid X for almost 9 months.. dropped once... took good care of it..... todays phone are almost computers... take ownership and take control.......

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