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RIM responds to insider allegations that BB10 is "no where near ready"

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As we reported previously, Research in Motion’s next generation phones that run BB10 will not launch until the second half of 2011. In their earnings report, co-CEO Mike Lazardis cited the lack of a new LTE-chipset as the main cause of the delay.

Earlier today BGR cited an "anonymous RIM insider" who claimed that the reason for the delay wasn’t over hardware, but due to the lack of progress on the QNX-based BB10 mobile platform. The source indicated that the current lack of native email clients and other expected apps on the QNX-based PlayBook tablet were a good snapshot of the state of development for BB10.

The source also questioned the overall ability to execute on BB10, saying RIM had “bet the company” on an OS that “couldn’t beat iPhone OS 1.0 or Android 2.0”. We reached out to Research in Motion for a response, and received a strongly worded denial of these accusations from RIM representative Jamie Ernst, which is reproduced in full:

RIM Statement, 12.22.11:

RIM made a strategic decision to launch BlackBerry 10 devices with a new, LTE-based dual core chip set architecture. As explained on our earnings call, the broad engineering impact of this decision and certain other factors significantly influenced the anticipated timing for the BlackBerry 10 devices. The anonymous claim suggesting otherwise is inaccurate and uninformed. As RIM has previously explained, and as Mike Lazaridis reiterated on the earnings call, we will not launch BlackBerry 10 devices until we know they are ready and we believe this new chip set architecture is required to deliver the world class user experience that our customers will expect. Any suggestion to the contrary is simply false. We appreciate the interest in our future platform and we will continue to work hard to deliver that platform as soon as possible. At the same time, we also remain very excited with the success of our recently launched BlackBerry 7 smartphones and we believe these products offer a very compelling choice for both new customers and the almost 75 million BlackBerry users around the world.


RIM clearly disputes the claims given to BGR, going so far as to label them “uniformed” and “simply false”. While no other information was supplied on the state of BB10 development, they are clearly doubling down on the claim that waiting for specific SoC solutions is the driving force behind the delay.

Of course corporate spokesmen and anonymous sources can both be accused of having ulterior motives - we don't know the history of the anonymous source, and it would be surprising for RIM to respond any other way. Still, reading between the lines there is reason to think that there might be a nugget of truth - as well as cause for hope - to claims about BB10's state of development.

The statement “we will not launch BlackBerry 10 devices until we know they are ready” would of course include any software issues, thus providing cover if the phones do need to be delayed because of the software. But given the “half-baked” reviews given to the BlackBerry PlayBook, we can all agree that RIM would be better served releasing a top-notch product rather than one that is rushed to market. RIM probably doesn’t have many more shots at relevancy in the high end smartphone world so BB10 handsets need to be a home run.

source: Research in Motion, BGR

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posted on 22 Dec 2011, 14:58 10

1. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


Translation: We picked a new LTE-imbedded chipset (likely the S4 MSM8960) that isn't ready yet, and we had no contingency plan. We aren't letting our customers down, Qualcomm is.

Meanwhile, businesses are letting employees choose the iPhone 4S and any number of Android phones. Not to mention the coming Tango WP7 phones. By the time BB10 arrives, their installed base will have moved on.

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 16:16 4

2. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 505; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


If only it was the second half of 2011 not 2012...sigh.

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 21:10

7. ILikeBubbles (Posts: 301; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)


i love qualcomm :(

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 16:18 4

3. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 505; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


RIM, the smell of the BS is making our eyes water.

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 16:58 8

4. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


RIM is lost...very, very lost. I don't know how their CEOs are still at the helm at this point. Ever since the iPhone launched, they have had failure after failure because they are used to doing things the old fashioned way. But the problem is, they didn't look at the failure of the Blackberry Storm and say, "You know what? We need to hire some new minds in here." They stayed the course because they are RIM. But in that time, not only did Apple pick up the "security" roll while producing and awesome phone, but the different companies that make Android phones can pretty much make any kind of smartphone they want. Blackberry's niche is gone at this point.

Blackberry should have been doing this type of planning a few years ago. Even Microsoft got on board and produced a fine OS...and they are struggling. I don't have any faith that RIM will be able to make up the loss ground at all. Next summer is a life time in the tech world. In that time, Apple may come out with a new phone, Android is coming out with a f**king Nexus tab next year, and Microsoft is also ready to come out with a few phones via Nokia. RIM is simply f**ked at this point.

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 19:23 3

5. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5582; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


@JeffdaBeat - RIM has been f*cked for a while. I would say they were f*cked when iOS v. 5 shipped and Google started leaking the feature set for ICS. The only thing keeping RIM anywhere relevant is the 2 year contracts that the poor sods who purchased a BB handset signed. When the iPhone 5 and multiple ICS handsets start to ship next year, expect the BB market share to nosedive. Even with ETFs on BB handsets. A friend who purchased a BB 9800 is just waiting for the D4 to become available, and they will be eating an ETF on the 9800. There seem to be a number of BB owners in a similar circumstance, judging by monthly market share metrics....

RIM is a dead man walking. Time to short the stock.

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 19:46

6. snowgator (Posts: 3197; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)


Well, if Mike Lazaridis said it, that settles it. No worries.

Again, hope sarcasm comes across okay in a post.

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 22:00 3

8. e.wvu (unregistered)


Wow, Blackberry. As I watched on Bloomberg today, it stated that Blackberry will put the Blackberry Playbook to the grave within the next month or two. Now, Blackberry 10 isn't going to be available anytime soon makes me wonder how long the company will be able to hold on. It's been a while since I've owned a Blackberry device but I feel sorry for those who are loyal Blackberry owners because Blackberry is letting them down.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 00:10 1

9. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 505; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


I was tempted to buy the discounted $199 PlayBook at Best Buy the other day, but I changed my mind once I felt the presence of vultures flying overhead. It's a real shame. The PlayBook is a decent piece of hardware and QNX had lots of potential. But the missing email thing and stupid marketing killed it.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 00:33 2

10. derricob (Posts: 24; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)


RIM will be the next Palm come next year or year after. It's sad because I used to love Blackberry because of their cameras, hardware durability, and QWERTY keyboards. But over time other companies have stepped up to make better cameras, better hardware, and I can type faster with an on-screen keyboard now. Not to mention how the other OS are way better and have better apps/games. I wouldn't recommend a Blackberry to anyone.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 06:43

11. arcq12 (Posts: 733; Member since: 13 Oct 2011)


I bet whatever that BB10 is, its gonna be the same crap..

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 10:23

12. cornerofthemoon (Posts: 505; Member since: 20 Apr 2010)


Assuming the whole LTE chipset thingamajig isn't complete bulls#$t, most of the world doesn't have or will never have LTE, so why the delay?

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 11:40

13. roldefol (Posts: 2858; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I don't think it's bull, but on the other hand it was foolish of them to bet the farm on a single chipset. Most likely they want to use the same chipset in all carrier versions, and they want the Verizon and AT&T versions to have LTE, so the entire line must have the LTE modem even if it's not active on all carriers.

posted on 23 Dec 2011, 11:55

14. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5582; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Betting the farm on having a uniform chipset across all platforms when the chipset was not shipping is beyond stupid. I am thinking about the fiasco at Apple over the migration from .mac to MobileMe. Things got so bad that Steve called out the transition team in a public meeting and fired the team leaders on the spot.

Something similar needs to happen to the co-Bozos who are running RIM.

posted on 09 Jan 2012, 00:27

15. JohnQpublic (Posts: 3; Member since: 21 Dec 2011)


RIM should have bought webOS....The Blackberry Bold 9930 is still one of the best looking, best built quality phones out, more for business with the small screen.

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