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New security flaw in iOS 8 and iOS 8.0.2 allows someone to break into your iPhone unchallenged

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New security flaw in iOS 8 and iOS 8.0.2 allows someone to break into your iPhone unchallenged
A YouTube video reveals a security issue that is plaguing the Touch ID and Passcode security features for iOS 8 and iOS 8.0.2. The flaw springs into action when an Apple iPhone running either build of iOS, is plugged into a computer or outlet. The "Allow Hey Siri" setting must be activated. With everything set in this manner, a stranger can bust into someone's Apple iPhone unchallenged.

We should note that this glitch doesn't always work, but the fact that it does leave an opening that can be taken advantage of, could be enough to scare some iPhone users, especially those using their iOS powered handset in the workplace. To take advantage of the glitch, with the above prerequisites in place, you ask Siri a question. Before she comes up with the answer, you press the home button and swipe to the right, and you just might have used a Jedi mind trick to get past the iPhone's security system.

There are some reasons not to lose too much sleep over this. As we said before, the glitch works very rarely, and requires the particular setup that we described above. And if you keep your iPhone out of the hands of strangers, you should have nothing to worry about. Still, Apple usually doesn't like to leave any glitches floating around, no matter how much of a long shot it might be to exploit them. In other words, expect a fix in the not too distant future.



source: EverythingApplesPro

UPDATE: According to a published report on Monday, this glitch in iOS 8 has turned out to be a fake. What is really happening is that Touch ID is being activated with a slight press of the home button. This also explains why the so-called glitch only worked occasionally.

source: Gizmodo

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posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:10 7

1. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)


BEFORE WE GET ANY OF THE ANDROID PEOPLE IN HERE TO CAUSE PROBLEMS! Remember...android has had its share of security issues...we've seen a lot of apple issues on this site recently. Lets make this one a mature one, understand that apple is like everyone else now in its problems and just have the people who ARE affected by this our sincerest condolences.

On the issue itself, Im sure this will be fixed very very quickly as Apple has been putting its security issues on high alert.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:17 22

4. Killertech2099 (Posts: 148; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


They've had security issues for weeks.. most apple fans on here aren't mature why expect the same from android fans? Its inevitable.Three updates less than a month? Its inevitableIts inevitable

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:24 1

10. Killertech2099 (Posts: 148; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


They've had security issues for weeks.. most apple fans on here aren't mature why expect the same from android fans? Almost three updates less than a month? It's inevitable

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:24 1

11. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Well…. Worst case, deactivate Siri. It seems that Hello Siri is the analogy to Open Sesame. If Siri is turned off, then the hack falls short.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:42 1

49. aba71983 (Posts: 805; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)


I don't see thousand of Apple iPhone user complaining about the 8.0.1 and up to 8.0.2. ONLY android user fans complain about this.

Have you been reading all the news of Apple this week about the Touch ID, iBend. 90% of them are android fans blushing Apple. But the true is, they want to have in their hands the Apple iPhone 6 & 6+ if the price cost $500 unlocked.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 00:01 4

51. o0Exia0o (Posts: 893; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


English much?

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 01:10 2

59. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Google translate helps with ESL, but there is still the matter of concepts that have to be developed and communicated clearly. If at first one doesn't succeed, try again, harder.

Maybe Rosetta Stone instead of Google Translate?

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 00:50 5

57. techperson211 (Posts: 1163; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


@aba Because we all know that ifans don't complained about it they're in denial stage that their so called perfect tech company doesn't have security flaws. Again work on your statements it's really hard to read and not to mention understand what your trying to say.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 07:10

77. aba71983 (Posts: 805; Member since: 24 Jul 2014)


Really, my English is not good? Now I know why my english teacher give me a grade of C.

No problem with that because I'm not a teacher and I am accountant. I'm good in numbers, yeah!!!

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 19:12 1

95. datguyglad (Posts: 98; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)


@aba71983 I don't even know why you even try..? Half of the comments I've read from you on this thread and other posts don't make sense at all!! You complain about android trolls but you yourself have been trolling around also. At least some of the trolls on here iPhone/Android can spell and we can at least make some kind of sense to what their saying.!

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:16

110. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2640; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


A C? Tells me more about the quality of the school you attended too than your level of English.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 04:10 1

68. kevkyle (Posts: 96; Member since: 21 Oct 2012)


was that english?.....", )

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 04:11 1

69. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2640; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Yet on Cult of Mac there is an author, an Apple fanboy who thinks the 8.0.1 update is one of the biggest mistakes Apple has made with the current release.

posted on 16 Oct 2014, 10:23

107. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2640; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


Update 8.0.1 doesn't even exist anymore. And just go to Apple forums to see all the complaints about Apple devices. Not only Android fans who complain about it. It's normal with any new device. Software has bugs, Apple has them, Android has them. Once again a stupid and dumb comment from you.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:00

108. FullTimeGamer (Posts: 2; Member since: 09 Oct 2014)


Dude, you do know that this "bug" was a fake, right? It was picking up his Touch ID registration on his thumb.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:12

109. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2640; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


I wasn't referring to this bug, but to bugs in general.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 00:34 3

53. greenelektron (Posts: 528; Member since: 10 Sep 2014)


I kept on thinking, Why does every time a new iOS is released, different security flaws keep on coming out? It seems to me that they always start from scratch. The bottom line is, Apple just sell.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 01:15

60. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


It is not just security flaws. WiFi connectivity, battery usage immediately come to mind as issues that required a new release of iOS 7. Those weren't security issues.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:21 1

6. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Just remember, with all the problems you've had to deal with recently... At least you don't have a Windows Phone.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:33 1

16. dazzmichael (Posts: 39; Member since: 15 Sep 2014)


whats up with Windows Phone?

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:38 4

19. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Nothing really, I just had a strong urge to drag a neutral party into an argument that had no relevance to said party.

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 11:15

96. Shimoner01 (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)


Ha, thank you. One of the best parts of using an OS with low market share (if not the only good part), is that no one cares enough to try and crack the security in it and there is no malware.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:15 2

44. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Nothing ACTUALLY...! :-)

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:23 6

8. wilsong17 (unregistered)


Maybe you want to go to apple insider

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:23 13

9. xondk (Posts: 1140; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Well yes, issues do happen, but the problem as I see it is, that apple basically promotes that they are the untouchable best and whatnot, never makes any mistakes e.t.c., and are running on that and have been for a long time.

Now all these things happen, just as iphone becomes comparable in resolution with the iphone 6 plus, making comparing the phones actual output and performance a more even playing field, and it seems iphone is not living up to its own press.

I prefer android myself because of its customization, but that's about it, otherwise the two different os' do what mobile os' should do if you ask me, but even so with me trying to see things objectively, it is difficult not to be smug when iphone's hype is proven to be just that, hype.

Edit: that said, he needs to disable touch id and do the test again, just to make sure that it isn't touch id reacting.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:32 2

15. techperson211 (Posts: 1163; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


You got that right @xondk . I don't know why it's so much to bear for them that Apple is being criticize whereas it should direct apple from correcting its mistakes. Yes there a lot of narrow minded android users here but I don't blame them cause of the so perfect company that apple promotes to themselves and yet again all these problems sprung up one after the other.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:00 5

28. BlankSpaceNai (Posts: 127; Member since: 23 Apr 2014)


I say this because even if we hoot and holler about how many mistakes apple is making, the thing is that none of them care. They are happy they got the newest version of their phones, no matter what issues its having, none of them are going to care about the problems it has, it only makes us look like we cant stop.

Sure, they poke fun at us, they dont listen to us, they just continue to make themselves look better, but the thing we have, is that we can outgrow them. If they dont care, let them live in the fantasies of their own creation while we move on, grow, advance, innovate, and change with newer and better things.

If we just keep poking fun at them for things, its just beating a dead horse. We got the note 4 coming, and after playing with it for 15 minutes, I've fallen in love all over again.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:24 2

45. HouTexan (Posts: 431; Member since: 08 Jan 2012)


Played with the Note 4 at best but and it is truly a beauty!

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:26 9

12. techperson211 (Posts: 1163; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


Again another ifan who is afraid of his beloved tech company to be critisize. This is the difference between apple and android user. Android users accepts the flaws of their device but ifans are so well defensive about it. I'm not gonna blame them Timmy always bragged how perfect they are in terms of user experience , hardware and software. And yet these kind of things happens.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:29 15

14. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1345; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


Why bring Android in on this? Right off the bat you're defending Apple while trying to start crap with Android folks. I'm sorry but I returned my iPhone 6 this afternoon for the many bugs I found with iOS. I did not have 1 bug free day while owning this phone for the past week. This OS is full of bugs and Apple to me is no longer a premium experience. Even their phones are starting to look like crap compared to other devices on the market.
I gave Apple another shot but no more. I can't be the only one that found so many bugs or incompatible apps.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 09:05

83. elitewolverine (Posts: 5018; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Probably not the only one, but no OS is bug free. The s5 was horrible, at least apple released a patch right away where it took over a month for our carrier to get a patch out for the s5.

Right now our apple issues are 5/5s updating, 6's seem to have little trouble for how many were sold. Our network accounted for over 20% of the iphone sales. It has been darn busy. Yet despite this, i still get more issues and calls regarding android than ios8, daily.

In fact android bugs is why i switched to wp, currently i have a older android razor m and i cannot even install cyanogenmod on it. And other roms are just to much work to even both. Device is stuck on 4.1 right now. It is not even two years old yet didnt get 4.3 4.2 or 4.4. At least the iphone 5 which is two yrs old, and the 4s which is 3yrs old are getting the ios8 update, regardless of bugs, official. No need to rom, hack, root, etc.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 12:29

88. marcski07 (Posts: 598; Member since: 25 Apr 2014)


the updates on lower/old phone, are meant to mess with the phone so you'll upgrade with their latest smartphone, every company does that..

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:40 14

21. AnTuTu (Posts: 1575; Member since: 14 Oct 2012)


Glad I am not using this crap but what about others who have already done the update in my company :(

iOS 8 is the biggest failure till date from Apple. Shame on you guys...

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 21:44 6

24. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


... I don't know... Their maps app was a nightmare when it first released.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:01 2

29. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10605; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Google Maps wasn't perfect when it first came out.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:00 3

27. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10605; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Right because Android was smooth as silk when it was first released. Let's not forget Android has its fair share of problems.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:16 14

32. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


Hmm... Android when it first came out? I'm talking about iOS now, not iOS when it first came out.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:36

35. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 10605; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Sounds like denial

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:57 11

41. Scott93274 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 06 Aug 2013)


ok, you're right, iOS 8 has just as many problems now as Android did when it was first released... Happy now? Seriously though, can you not think of anything that android has messed up on other than it wasn't perfect when it was first released? That's lazy, even by your standards.

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:32 5

46. ManusImperceptus (Posts: 724; Member since: 10 Jun 2014)


Denial? So, you're seriously comparing a fledgling OS with a 7 year advanced OS?

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:49 3

50. o0Exia0o (Posts: 893; Member since: 01 Feb 2013)


Yep now it's officially a Motoro....... Wait....What..... I don't remember Motorola being mentioned in the article, hold on I'll check again.............. Nope no Motorola in the article, then what are you doing here Mxy?

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 06:32

75. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


no denial but sounds like you are too much insecure

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:28 15

34. BobbyDigital (Posts: 1819; Member since: 29 May 2014)


What does Android have to do with yet ANOTHER problem with iOS8?? And you iFans say Android users are the ones always calling out Apple?? It's the other way around dude.

You're just another Apple kool-aid drinker that can't own up to the fact that Apple has yet another problem with its mediocre product.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 11:11

85. kindlefireowner (Posts: 503; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


BoobyAnalog being a Troll as usual. Booby with another negative comment about Apple. You spend a lot time trolling on Apple BoobyAnalog.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 04:12 2

70. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2640; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


True, but Android doesn't have a slogan that says "it just works"

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 04:39 1

71. SanteriAT (Posts: 11; Member since: 24 Jun 2014)


Even though Android phones that cost the same amount "just work better" (or then I just use them right...)

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 07:46

78. jroc74 (Posts: 5980; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Exactly. Somehow Apple, iPhone fans are forgetting this. Maybe the truth is finally starting to sink in. That it doesnt and never did....just work....

posted on 02 Oct 2014, 11:28

97. Shimoner01 (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)


You have a point insofar as Android having bugs, and it seeming a bit hypocritical for Android users to bash Apple when they have problems. That said, I think the major difference is that Android users haven't been walking around for the last 5 years with their noses in the air claiming that their phone offers a 'perfected experience'; or that even though Apple is late with a lot of features, they 'perfect' them by the time they offer them; or that iOS is better than Android specifically because it offers an 'optimized' software experience, even if the hardware does not wow on a spec sheet.

Further the problems that have plagued iOS 8 and the iPhone 6+, aside from the present issue, are bush-league problems. A chassis that might have trouble withstanding the arduous task of being in someone's pocket, and update that drops cell connection, and security so porous that it doesn't block login attempts after X-number of failed tries - amongst others. Frankly, Microsoft wouldn't have done so poorly in 1998; and all of this has occurred in a month or so. I'm sorry, but the Apple has lost some of its luster - a premium price calls for a premium product, and Apple is not delivering that right now.

posted on 03 Oct 2014, 08:04

98. hattrix0000 (Posts: 4; Member since: 29 Sep 2014)


9 phones bent. Out of 10 million sold 9 bent. Really? That's what you hang your hat on?

posted on 04 Oct 2014, 11:41

102. Shimoner01 (Posts: 6; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)


Several problems with that. First, the 6+, being the phone I was referring to, didn't sell 10 million. Second, there were a lot of people posting videos of bent phones - in the thousands. Surely, many of them are fake, but also surely not all; further the Wired writer's review unit also bent. If there were one source I was going to trust for an accurate number it probably wouldn't be the party with the most heavily vested interest in ensuring that the issue go away. Further, Apple is infamously tight-lipped when they have problems, hardware or otherwise. Lastly, that is not all that I hung my hat on - I referred to two other notable problems this month and there have been others. Most recently, a hacker can take control of your MacBook if you use the search function on Reddit. You don't even have to download anything, they just take control of your computer; and guess what, Apple made no comment. Sorry to say, they used to be a better company; but this is straight bush league.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 01:28 3

64. zibbyzib2000 (Posts: 221; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)


When you tap the home button it registers your fingerprint. He tapped it multiple times when he tried to glitch Siri so I'm pretty sure that's why it let him unlock it.

For it to be confirmed, someone without their fingerprint registered on the device should try to unlock using this method.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 08:15

80. mrblah (Posts: 576; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)


You called it!!!!

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 22:02 13

30. fzacek (Posts: 2486; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)


Butthurt iFan...

posted on 28 Sep 2014, 23:36 4

47. engineer-1701d (Posts: 3214; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


problem is apple is no longer allowing software rollback

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 00:45 2

55. jroc74 (Posts: 5980; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


"Lets make this one a mature one, understand that apple is like everyone else now in its problems"

I agree....but this isnt anything new for Apple. They have been like everyone else for years. For some reason Apple was always seen as perfect when they never were.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 01:57 2

65. lyndon420 (Posts: 3730; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Right out of the gate with damage control eh? Lol. If we stop hearing iOS users and their 'iOS is the most secure' comments...

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 02:10

66. Jimrod (Posts: 882; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


When was this exactly? I've been reading through everything on this site for the last couple of weeks and I've seen literally no-one saying that.

I've seen plenty of Android/Windows fans having a go at iOS/Apple users for "Always saying..." but I've not seen the actual comments from the Apple users in the first place. It seems to all be all in some people's heads, at least in recent years...

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 03:11 1

67. jroc74 (Posts: 5980; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


http://www.phonearena.com/news/iOS-8-allows-Touch-ID-to-be-accessed-by-third-party-apps_id56781

Thats kinda 1 from months ago. Lyndon's post is about some, many iOS users in general not just at this site.

Another thing is there arent many Android security articles right now. You will see the "iOS is the most secure" type posts then.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-4.3-has-dangerous-but-difficult-to-exploit-security-flaw_id57684

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Secret-keys-to-Android-apps-pose-security-problem-for-users-plus-some-interesting-statistics_id57328

It has slowed alot vs when I first joined tho. I will agree with your last sentence. I really think part of it is the Distortion Field is fading away.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 09:41

84. Jimrod (Posts: 882; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


I agree, the modern mobile phone market is rapidly maturing (stagnating even) and things are very close between all brands/operating systems now really.

You pay your money and you make your choice - it's very hard to get something bad and more money doesn't necessarily get something much better, but any massive arguments for or against either Android/iOS/Windows are pretty marginal nowadays. Much of the "hate" seems to be historical. They're phones at the end of the day, hating their users is a little fanatical whichever side of the fence you're on.

posted on 29 Sep 2014, 06:23

74. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Blankspacenai.... why you are so insecure about android fans? if apple really has a major security flaw, let people speak about it... it is Tim cook who said ios is very secure and we dont keep user's record(but we do allow others to seemlessly steal your record)

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