Galaxy S6 shipping with two different camera sensors - from Sony or Samsung
16. BobbyBuster (banned) (Posts: 854; Member since: 13 Jan 2015)
I'm sure that ALL the review units sent to the media were equipped with the Sony sensors while the ones sold are mostly with the crappy Sammy's ones.
I consider it cheating. Sammy should have made both versions available to the media for reviewing purpose.
Hey PA, why don't you re-review another GS6 with Sammy's sensor?
We all know Sammy: the grand slamer in benchmark cheating.
21. johanbiff (Posts: 388; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)
since HTC is the only brand cheating on benchmarks as of today I would say no.
34. medicci37 (Posts: 1271; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
Samsung should have been honest either way. I like to know exactly what I'm getting when I buy.
70. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
I used both SD805 and Exynos 5433 note 4 over two months and two months... there is no observable difference between the camera result of both. Both produce great quality photos, except exynos camera has little more contrast. Which I though was due to different ISP but now I come to know that both had entirely different sensors
74. thegeneral7010 (Posts: 325; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
are lieing my friend N 910C has sony sensor
77. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
do you have a vision impairment problem? OR reading ability disorder? go and get the mental treatment before calling someone a lier (plz dont forget to get eye sight check up as well)... in my above comment did I say that n910c doesnt have sony's sensor? plz read carefuly if your brain is functioning properly. I dont know which model have which sensor...
I am lieing or PA is lieing? this information is revealed by PA that both models are using different sensors.
For your kind information both models have a slight difference in color reproduction. Go purchase both models and take photos by yourself and compare by your retarded brain and check that your vision impaired eyes can see the difference?
75. techperson211 (Posts: 1176; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)
Well in terms on sensor 99% of OEM uses Sony. So Sony get your f**k up camera fixed coming from a Sony fan.
22. samsboy (unregistered)
As much as I support Samsung, I want uniformity and proportionality. Why would the same model has different camera sensors and there is nothing to Identify which one has which sensor. I really consider it as cheating as you said.
53. j2001m (Posts: 2828; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
You are joking right Apple use a range of parts in there phones like ram and who makes there CPU all the time
23. Andrewtst (Posts: 612; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Lol. Most people getting the Sony sensor.
Mine also is Sony, Samsung sensor ain't bad and possible even better, at least Samsung sensor in Note 4 is slightly better.
36. maherk (Posts: 3466; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
both my S6 Edge and my wife's S6 have Sony sensors.
I believe that all the S6 variants have the Sony sensor, as one of the XDA developers mentioned, it could be the kernel that is showing wrong information.
60. marorun (Posts: 3369; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Then why we have many thats use the samung one here? did they all ship the cheap one to Canada?
68. maherk (Posts: 3466; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
1- isocell sensors aren't cheap
2- it is not confirmed that there are different sensors on the S6, for now it is showing wrong information until Samsung confirms this story
3- i highly doubt Samsung would treat Canada in such a manner and throw their "cheap" parts there, i don't see that happen. I am not saying yours is for sure equipped with a Sony sensor, might be Isocell, but that doesn't make it cheap.
25. vergil9 (banned) (Posts: 517; Member since: 06 Apr 2015)
Yes they should re-review it woth the Sammy sensor one.
But don't call it crappy just yet.
They stopped cheating a long time ago, have you been living under a rock?
31. SayMobile (Posts: 94; Member since: 29 Jan 2014)
What a hater! Samsung is putting the sensors randomly in random batches, that clearly means thay are quite confident in both the sensors, .Their are lots of other stuffs in the camera department that a company has other than just putting the sensors adn samsung are quite good at that . No matter what sensor is in S6/S6 Edge , they both take unparalled and great pictures.
48. Atrixboyyy (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)
How is ANY of you so sure the Samsung chip is trash ? Im sure if this information was found at a later date you'd all still be saying how amazing the photos are.
59. marorun (Posts: 3369; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Sad but true we tested it and more than 75% of the S6 we received use the samsung version and the quality of the picture taken is clearly different..
62. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Lol wait a second, I thought ifans championed the user experience and specs don't matter as long as the device performed.
Now all of a sudden one specification might be different on a competing devuce and you sheep are crying fowl? Sorry but that's hilarious. Lol
64. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)
I agree. Especially considering Apple is the king of using different quality components on the same product. Remember the retina macbook pro with Samsung and SHARP panels? The Samsung panels were noticeably superior to SHARP panels.
78. danielxxi (Posts: 183; Member since: 13 Feb 2013)
Apple cultist: you're totally wrong, it's not sharp panel but LG display!! http://www.engadget.com/2012/0
58. marorun (Posts: 3369; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
In fact its very bad at our store we tested both version ( we got the 64 gb with samsung one and the 32 gb using the sony one )
The samsung one is much worste the quality is similar to the S5.
So watch out ppl!
67. skimshaddy (unregistered)
I do like to know which sensor is Sony and which is Samsung. But as long they both takes great pictures. Would love if PA find out which one is which and do a compair on both sensors see if any different.
2. AMERICANPATRIOT (banned) (Posts: 54; Member since: 20 Mar 2015)
android = fragmentation
from hardware to software
5. andynaija (Posts: 859; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
Repeating the same old, same old.
14. boosook (Posts: 1429; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
LOL... Apple does the same thing with the iphones, ipads, macbooks... Memory chips, hard disks... even the iphone's screen comes in different versions from different manufacturers. That's because a single manufacturer usually can't ship enough components, especially during the first phase of the production, when the request for the device peaks. And also because depending on a single manufacturer is never good (think what could happen if all your displays were built in a single factory in the world and that factory went on fire). As long as components adhere to the specifications, people won't see any difference (or the difference will be negligible).
17. vuyonc (Posts: 990; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)
It's probably too soon to make a joke about diversity given your profile name.
66. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)
Yes, but Apple is the KING of hardware fragmentation.
Apple products with Samsung components = superior to Apple products with Japanese or Taiwanese components.
Remember the retina macbook pro with Samsung and SHARP panels? The Samsung panels crapped all over the SHARP panels. That's why Apple is going back to Samsung designed panels, since SHARP sucks and Apple can't engineer their own display because their engineers suck.
79. danielxxi (Posts: 183; Member since: 13 Feb 2013)
Your racist comment totally wronghttp://www.engadget.com/2012/0
3. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
It most likely produce some units and for the rest that can't mass product ideas uses Sony's sensor but if they're the same isn't it coping!?
4. seven7dust (unregistered)
bad news , but it's kinda like the resverse of the macbook pro from 2 years ago which used both Toshiba and Samsung SSDs, in that case samsung component was better , I doubt it here.
18. BobbyBuster (banned) (Posts: 854; Member since: 13 Jan 2015)
You don't have to struggle to show your ignorance.
SSDs have strict interface norm. Image sensors don't.
Image sensors are usually bundled with a lens and an ISP and come in forms of "sensor modules"
Different image sensor require different handling and tuning. Even a slightest change in the lens' coating material makes the tuning void.
People who purchased GS6 with Sammy's own, inferior sensor modules should request an exchange with one equipped with Sony's one - or even better refund since once again, Sammy got caught cheating consumers.
43. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 450; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
Stupid. Do you have any data proving that the Sammy sensor is inferior? Didn't think so, so stop talking out of your ass.
61. marorun (Posts: 3369; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
We tested it and its worst all around beside autofocus.
45. DarkStar286 (Posts: 212; Member since: 18 Mar 2014)
How do you know it's inferior? Can you share some samples with us to prove it?
57. AppleCultist (banned) (Posts: 335; Member since: 18 Feb 2015)
No. The difference in SSD performance comes down to manufacturing process on node size. Changing suppliers would cause performance inconsistencies due to differences in manufacturing processes.
Also, Apple has done the same thing by using SHARP AND Samsung panels on the retina macbook pro, where the Samsung panel was superior to the SHARP panel.
It's documented proof that different suppliers cause quality differences in apple products. Do you have any proof that the samsung sensor differs from Sony sensors?
6. bur60 (Posts: 838; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)
It's not just reserving... Samsung pushing Tizen... Samsung using own cpu, more and more own parts.. NOw cam sensor. Samsung wants everything in it's own hands (just like how they "run" southkorea)
7. Tarox (Posts: 103; Member since: 17 Feb 2015)
how to get the information which sensor is built in?? Can't find any information about that. Would be nice to know
8. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Meh. Samsung knows what they are doing. One of them is probably just Samsung manufacturing it under Sony's blueprint. Probably essentially the same sensor.
Or at most, the differences is probably the same as the differences between an lg iPhone display vs a sharp or Samsung one. Barely noticeable.
11. JohnK (Posts: 117; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)
I checked mine just to see if i would be lucky enough to get a Samsung sensor. But no. Anyway who cares if results are similar on both sensors.
Samsung has a business to run, so who knows if availability of Sony's 16MP got compromised due to higher number of competitors using it this year.
15. boosook (Posts: 1429; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Lucky enough to get the Sony one, you mean... ;)
39. JohnK (Posts: 117; Member since: 03 Mar 2015)
Nobody knows which one could be the best if there's any difference.
40. Cicero (Posts: 859; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)
Still nobody here is talking about having Samsung sensor.
13. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
well the displays are also made from multiple companies and they all look the same. sammy and sony are both using the same design and manufacturing process no doubt there shouldn't be a difference between them.
19. gaming64 (unregistered)
Its really good move from Samsung. It helps boost production in order to lessen demands. It also prevents shortage of sensors. Good job, Samsung
56. yoosufmuneer (Posts: 1498; Member since: 14 Feb 2015)
First time you praised sammy. Shockingly
24. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)
You better hope your S6 camera is using the Sony sensor. You better be.
35. joeytaylor (Posts: 417; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)
What difference does it make....we all know sony doesn't know how to use their own sensor
44. Kruze (Posts: 1285; Member since: 30 Dec 2014)
But the fact is that Samsung does know how to use the sensor, and Sony sensors are great, it's just that Sony doesn't know how to use them in a good way.
47. joeytaylor (Posts: 417; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)
Is there any proof that the ISO censor is any worse or better...with sammys software ability the difference may never be noticed by the consumer. ...
49. talon95 (Posts: 476; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)
I agree, Sony seems to make capable sensors but I have never liked pictures out of a Sony camera.
26. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 3718; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
I'm very much sure that both sensors would be good performers, Sammy's sensor is also good as S5 was also a superb performer in camera department last year. And and the Samsung's software optimization is awesome.
27. PiteCZek (Posts: 5; Member since: 25 Feb 2015)
Mine 128GB S6 edge is using the sammy sensor, can´t complain about photos it takes though :)