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First 64-bit Samsung phone gets benchmarked, sports a Snapdragon 410 chip

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First 64-bit Samsung phone gets benchmarked, sports a Snapdragon 410 chip
Ever since Apple introduced the industry's first 64-bit processor with the iPhone 5s, silicon slingers have been in a state of emergency, or that's at least what multiple accounts seem to suggest. While those initially attempted to laugh off 64-bit chips publicly, it eventually became obvious that, much like anything else in the industry, the rest must follow. You may call it herd mentality, but it probably has a lot more to do with pure business than anything else.

Either ways, the current silicon king in the mobile space, Qualcomm, didn't take long to announce it's own plans to make the jump towards 64-bit processors, with processors like the Snapdragon 410, 610, 615, 808, and 815, all of which will be based on ARM's new 64-bit architecture. And while chip development usually takes a long time (in smartphone years, that is), we're already getting the first real hints that the first slew of devices powered by Qualcomm's 64-bit chips are around the corner. More specifically, a recent run through the GFXBench benchmarking suite left traces of a Samsung device that was powered by a 64-bit Snapdragon 410 chip and an Adreno 306 GPU.

The rest of the specs powering this still mysterious Samsung device (SM-G510F) include a 4.8-inch, 540 x 960 (qHD) resolution display, 1GB of RAM, and 8GB of internal storage. As for imaging, the SM-G510F makes do with an 8-megapixel rear snapper capable of 1080p video capture, and a 5MP front-facing selfie cam. Lastly, the device in question ran Android 4.4.2 KitKat.

As for the type of performance you can expect from a device with similar specs, this GFXBench pass already provides some clue. That said, do keep in mind that this is likely a model in early development, so further optimizations could (and likely will) take place. With that in mind, we've got to say that we weren't very impressed -- when compared with the Moto G (which has a more demanding, 720p screen), the SM-G510F managed to snatch a victory in several tests, but not by a mile. But we'll give this the benefit of the doubt and wait until these first 64-bit Android devices become a market reality. Until then, sit tight.


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posted on 19 Jun 2014, 09:50 6

1. verbalize (Posts: 122; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Lol.. And here is Samsung late to the party again..

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:11 14

3. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Copycats usually are

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:23 28

7. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


Heard apple came late this time around also ;)

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:38 10

9. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


do you mean with their phablet? yes, very very late, copy cats usually are

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:39 2

10. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Heard apple has nothing to do with this

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:24 7

38. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4180; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Then who is Apple copying? You always comment implying that others are late, copying, or in some way inferior. And the implication is always comparing them to Apple, which you have stated as your OS of choice. Yet whenever anyone brings Apple into this due to your comments, you state that isn't what this is about. But when a "fandroid" as you've called them comments in an Apple article you have no problem bashing Android. So please answer me how that is different? Different sets of rules for different people doesn't work and is one of the main things wrong with this country.

If you're going to use Apple as the standard by which you judge other companies, then you have to be prepared to have them scrutinized as well.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 14:14 1

50. babyk (Posts: 308; Member since: 03 Nov 2011)


lol...What else you heard?

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 14:33 3

53. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Define late. A lot of the features present in iOS 8 were already in beta through jailbreaking. Apple gradually releases features so people can properly enjoy them and utilize them. They don't release features out of the blue just to release them.

Adding features, as proven by Samsung with their constant levels of bloat that no one will probably use, doesn't always make for a pleasant user experience.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:38 14

8. hung2900 (Posts: 956; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)


What the f***?
This one is a Qualcomm SoC.

What a brain less sh*ep!

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:39 3

11. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I don't give a fudge what it is. It's still Samsung using a 64 bit chip

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:01 11

14. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


I don't mind any company copying others but to say that the copied apple cause they started using 64bit is a bit of a stupid statement.. that means that everything apple is bringing into iOS and has the latest 2 major updates has been copied from Android and WP..
that also means that apple copied 64-bit architecture aswell.. and don't forget that samsung made those chipsets..

It seems to me that you went from apple fan to fullblown dumbass.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:36 2

23. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


If Apple never used a 64bit chip you really think Samsung would've used one?

Don't be ignoramuses.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:51 9

27. iushnt (Posts: 1679; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


"If Apple never used a 64bit chip you really think Samsung would've used one?"

I'm sure they would.

I agree to Astoni (Post 14), you were a good apple fan before and wouldn't bother android or Samsung. Dunno what happened to you.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 12:11

32. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I don't. I just give my opinion like everyone else.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:44 9

44. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4180; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


And others are giving their opinions as well. But theirs are ignorant and yours are correct? You can't cur through your arrogance with a plasma cutter.

At some point the industry would've gone to 64 bit, it's the next logical progression. The PC industry has been using 64 bit OS and chips for years, Apple didn't invent it. So just as the PC industry migrated from 32 to 64 bit, so is the mobile industry. If apple hadn't have been first, someone else would've.

The difference is no one believed it was a necessary step at this point, and truthfully it isn't. How much has migrating to 64 bit helped how the device runs? Any gains could've as easily been accomplished by stepping up to a stronger CPU or more RAM. And now developers have to start moving their apps over to 64 bit ahead of schedule.

The main reason Apple went to it was as a selling point. It's no different than 2 & 4k TVs, without the content you're not seeing any benefits until the rest of the industry starts offering content that they can make use of it.

There's the argument that it future proofs the device. But in the case of mobile, how many are still going to have the first 64 bit device when the industry can really make use of it? Anymore people are shocked when someone has a 2 year old phone, so that isn't a very valid argument.

Either way, Apple didn't create 64 bit, they simply used it as a selling point. And with the way business is today, if you don't have it as well you're falling behind, whether the feature is useful or not. It happened with 720/1080 screens, 3D, 4G and LTE, and now with wearables and water resistance. Every time someone comes out with a new feature, the industry jumps on it and it's the next must have thing. How useful they are could be determined by the consumer, or they could very well be following the "heard mentality" and buying because they think they need it when in fact they might never use it.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 15:07 4

59. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


He's just a blind sad lil fan boy. probably in his teens or something. He worsphips APPLE and hate's copy cats you can always ignore people like him.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 18:19 1

63. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)


Wow you do the same but with Android, irony

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:09 5

36. wilsong17 (unregistered)


idiot 64 b mobile was in progress since 2012 or 2011 they made report about it do a simple google search

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 04:09

70. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5498; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)


Mxyzptlk as always is unable to reasonable his bulls**t statements...

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 21:13 1

65. tedkord (Posts: 11607; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Because the tech in smartphones hasn't followed the tech in desktops, right? ARM announced 64-bit CPUs a year before the iPhone 5s was announced. In fact, if ARM hadn't done the initial legwork, there'd be no 64-bit A8.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 22:36 1

67. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4180; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Intel had 64 bit long before that. My old Asus laptop that I bought when Vista launched (don't laugh) was 64 bit. I still use it so I know it's on there. And Vista launched quite a few years ago. But your point is correct. The PC industry comes out with something, and when they can jam it in a smaller mobile device, they do. Same with WiFi, first on laptops, then on smartphones.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:41

24. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Ok so if they were just coping all those features from android for the last 2 years how will you explain to me that google is coping those features back wothleslly, as they already have them ?

And aehm they copied an 64-bit architecture from who ? Oh from the distant future I forgot....

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:55 3

49. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4180; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


As I said earlier, 64 bit is a natural progression for the industry. A smartphone is basically a mini laptop with calling capabilities, and laptops have had 64 bit for years now. It's no different than moving from a single to dual to quad core processor, as the demands on the device get stronger, a more powerful CPU is required. The problem is, we aren't at that time yet, which is why even almost a year after it was offered, the industry is moving at a snail's pace to optimize for 64 bit. If we were in a crunch, the progression would be much faster than it is.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:12 19

18. PapaSmurf (Posts: 10456; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Funny because if you really want to go there, the S2 has been sporting the features of iOS 8 for three years now.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:35 1

22. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Do you want to do this PapaSmurf? You've never given me any trouble about my Samsung comments.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:48 5

46. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Of course, In the small world of an iSheeeeep, his tech knowledge is limited to Apple's A chipset, or terms like "desktop class", "64 bit", "Axx is twice as faster than Ax", "Retina". Infact he gets so sheepppy that he forgets Apple A7 is manufactured by Samsung.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 21:15

66. tedkord (Posts: 11607; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


HAHA. Was that supposed to be intimidating? He's right, by the way.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:23 1

19. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


also heard they are usuing outdated software too.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:53 9

28. vikingsfootball09 (Posts: 70; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)


TO Verbalize and Mxyzptlk >>>
apple doing 64bit with just 1gb of ram is nutz...not fully utilizing 64bit.
copycats? i think it makes more sense to have 3gb or more system ram that to have 512mb or 1gb.

- didnt apple use 4g/lte after android used it first?

- while apple was still using 512mb memory, android was using as much as 2gb...then apple finally stepped up to 1gb, while most android are now using 3gb

- while apple has been stuck at 4 inch screens before the 5s, most android have been doing atleast 5inch. now apple is finally gonna go the 5+ inch screen with their new iphones

- while motorolla atrix had fingerprint scanner more than 3yrs ago, apple copied on their 5s

- what about apples supposedly iwatch rumors over a year ago that apple fanbois were saying android will copy...but guess what? smartwatches were available even before apple hinted of making one of their own...and samsung is already on its way of making its third generetion of smartwatches.

- everything about ios7/8 is more like android than it is ios itself

- the list goes on and on and on my friend...apple is a copycat that apple fanbois like to play dumm n dummer...OMG OMG!!! HAHAHA!!!

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:33

39. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


You are bashing them so little it actually looks you praise them !
You are embarrassing the God Android !

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 16:17

61. vikingsfootball09 (Posts: 70; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)


iODINE>>> you praise apple so much for the copying that they do, its like watching ios8 keynote all over again.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 15:00

57. pavsidhu (Posts: 214; Member since: 20 May 2014)


Not really, Samsung didn't copy Apple, Apple only made it to 64bit before Samsung and it's not like 64bit was never around before.

posted on 20 Jun 2014, 06:15

71. shahrooz (Posts: 737; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


don't feed the troll

posted on 11 Nov 2014, 09:37

72. nikhilcr7vsmessi (Posts: 2; Member since: 08 Feb 2013)


They are always late !
Htc and Lenovo did it first !

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 09:50 4

2. antmiu2 (Posts: 312; Member since: 19 Jun 2011)


kinda pathetic since the samsung phone was on a 540x960 res and barely beat the moto g

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:14 7

4. Xperia_droid (Posts: 39; Member since: 07 Nov 2013)


But none of the apps are designed for 64bit . pretty gimmick like apple did last year.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:24 1

20. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


I prefer SNAPDRAGON 808 over this gimmick 64BIT processor

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 12:13

33. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 12941; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Gimmick like NFC right?

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:35

40. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


I dont use NFC even on my Note 3

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:48 2

47. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4180; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)


Then why did apple wait so long to implement NFC if it wasn't necessary? But now that they've added it it's necessary? Double standard no?

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 14:26 1

52. joaolx (Posts: 364; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


They still haven't added NFC. With their iBeacons tool they don't need it. Although htat doesn't mean they won't use it in the future.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 15:09 2

60. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


if you're saying NFC is a gimmick? when IP6 has NFC u will say it will be the greatest feature on a Iphone with a outdate technology.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 17:47

62. jacko1977 (Posts: 428; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


airdrop is a renamed bluetooth

nfc is better then airdrop

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 19:28 1

64. iushnt (Posts: 1679; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


If NFC was in Apple you wouldn't have called it gimmick and if Samsung have had brought 64-bit first you would have called it gimmick. you are not showing your opinion but fanboyism.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 12:38 2

35. shuaibhere (Posts: 1986; Member since: 07 Jul 2012)


Since android apps run DVM...it's no prob...
ART too is 64 bit compatible...
So android is ready for 64 bit...

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:16 1

5. realjjj (Posts: 369; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)


What the hell are you expecting,this is a small core,replacing A7 in low and mid range devices. Besides, the benchmark is about the GPU shows nothing really about the core.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:17

6. adecvat (Posts: 266; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


Samsun tech is no match for Apple tech.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:05 6

15. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


yet Samsungs tech is inside apples iphones ;). Funny how the phone industry works isn't it :D

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:32

21. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


That's like implying a lumberjack is the better writer than Shakespeare, because it made wood for the paper for it's books = ridiculous.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 12:05

30. vikingsfootball09 (Posts: 70; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)


to iodine>>> huh??? what??? eerrrr...

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:36

42. elitewolverine (Posts: 5183; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


It was a funny relation, your reaction is the exact reaction about Astoni.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:50

48. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


I have no idea what you're implying.. but i'll explain what i'm talking about.

He said that samsungs tech is no match for apples tech.. problem is that Apple designs some of its own technology while other companys create and manufacture apples ideas.. then apple buys those components. technically its not apples.
A good comparsion for this is Your father made you (designed the idea) then later on he wants your Kidney, but that up to you to decide cause you kind of evolved it on your own while your dad only gave you the blueprints on how you were going to be designed ;). (lets leave the mother out of this, its to complicated)

I tried to make as much sense as i could, it sounded better in my head xD.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:44

45. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


A bit yes, but you're still far off lodine. Try keeping sane while writing.. its a lot easier to understand you.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:53 1

29. iushnt (Posts: 1679; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)


I suggest u to Google "Number 1 information technology company in the world."

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 12:09 2

31. vikingsfootball09 (Posts: 70; Member since: 02 Oct 2013)


to adecvat>>>
samsung no mattch for apple tech?
do you know that samsung manufactures all kinds of tech componants that apple and the rest of the world uses? from home entertainment to home appliances, to computers and mobile devices...and even rockets/missles and everything else in the tech world. does apple even do close to what samsung does on a global scale? your so clueless ;o)

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:51

12. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Ooh 64bit excites me......NOT

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 10:57

13. theoak (Posts: 324; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


It is not just about a 64 bit chip though. What Apple also did is provide the API and programming environment to leverage the extra functionality offered by the 64 bit chip.

You can throw a 5 liter engine (or 64 bit chip) on a lawn mower (cell phone), but if you are working with the same 3 gears (or API and programming tools) you will not get any farther.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 11:07

16. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


I still think they should way unil android is actually being optimised for 64-bit arch.. even if it's able to boost the system a little.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 13:38 1

43. Anonn (Posts: 230; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)


Android cant run, let alone optimizes, on 64 bit until the hardware is widely available. Remember this rule of thumb in computing, Hardware precedes software. In PCs, 64 bit processors were widely available and used Before windows 64 bit was available.

posted on 19 Jun 2014, 14:18

51. Astoni (Posts: 649; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


+1, thanks for sharing :)

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