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Tables have turned: Verizon reportedly pressuring Samsung for Exynos 2200 instead of Snapdragon 898

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Tables have turned: Verizon reportedly pressuring Samsung for Exynos 2200 instead of Snapdragon 898
Samsung's chip-making arm is seemingly close to turning its fortune around. There was a time not too long ago when the South Korean company's Exynos chips were frowned upon and apparently that's why the more lucrative markets of North America and China got Qualcomm's Snapdragon SoCs. That perception appears to have changed, thanks to Samsung's adoption of Arm cores and the upcoming AMD GPU.

Samsung taking advantage of the situation by negotiating lower price for the Snapdragon 898

A post on Korea's Clien message boards (via Tron) says that although Samsung's North America bound flagships will likely use a Qualcomm chip, presumably the Snapdragon 898, Verizon has put forward a request for the Exynos 2200, and negotiations are currently underway.
 
Per an earlier report, it's possible that only a few markets will get the Exynos 2200 and that's because of low yield and production issues.

Leaked benchmark scores suggest that Exynos 2200 may have an edge over Qualcomm's chip and might even be on par with Apple's Bionic SoCs that power the iPhones.

That explains why Verizon is eager to get the chip. The latest report also says that Europe and Southeast Asia will continue to stick with Exynos chips but Korea may switch to Snapdragon. Samsung also plans to equip Chinese models with Snapdragon chips but China Telecom is allegedly also trying to procure the Exynos 2200.

The yield issues have purportedly also led to some internal disagreements between different units of Samsung. The high demand for the Exynos 2200 is apparently also being used as leverage to negotiate price cuts for the Snapdragon 898 with Qualcomm, so it looks like a win-win situation for Samsung.

Next year's Galaxy A series midrangers could employ an AMD-powered Exynos chip


Another post on Clien (via Tron) says that Samsung will use an AMD-powered Exynos chip for the budget Galaxy A series.
 
In late June, Samsung was said to be testing four configurations for AMD-based SoCs, including one with Arm's latest X2 processing core, two with Cortex X1 CPUs, and one with the A78.

Apparently, new A-series phones will employ an A78-based Exynos chip - possibly the Exynos 1080 successor - with two compute units (CU). Its performance is said to be sufficient enough for mid-tier phones.

A comparatively more powerful chip is expected to have four CUs and two Chinese companies may use it too. One of these could be Vivo. The processors are currently being tested at low clock speeds.

Latest AMD Exynos 2200 benchmark results


The Exynos 2200 is likely to use 6 CUs. According to previously available information, it will be built on Samsung's 4LPP (4nm Low Power Plus) process, which succeeds the 5nm FinFET node that was used for Galaxy S21's Exynos 2100.
 
The 4nm tech is based on the MBCFETTM structure (Multi Bridge Channel FET) that doesn't suffer from the same performance and physical scaling limitations as the FinFET architecture.

Samsung purportedly continues to throttle the performance of its AMD GPU to take care of possible overheating issues and here are the latest results:

  • Manhattan 3.1: 127.5 Fps
  • Aztec Normal: 90.7 Fps
  • Aztec High: 39.65 Fps (Exynos 2100 cannot get past 30)

A June report had said that peak performance would be throttled by 30 percent but that might not happen.

The chip will be used first in the Galaxy S22 series and could make it one of the best phones of next year.

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