With iOS 5, some OTA updates can be handled through 3G
Although unconfirmed, it appears that it will be up to an individual carrier to decide whether or not it will allow an OTA update to be allowed through its precious pipeline. One interesting feature that Apple has set up allows the the update process to start only if the user has enough battery life and storage to handle the entire download. The Cupertino based firm wants you to have 500MB in open storage for each "Delta" update. A "Delta" update is one where only the changes and new code are sent instead of the entire program.
While Apple has not officially made any announcement about updating over 3G, at WWDC Apple's Senior VP of iPhone software, Scott Forstall, had mentioned that no longer would a computer hookup be required for an iOS update. But nothing was said about whether such an OTA update would require Wi-Fi or could use 3G even though the slide on the screen at the time showed a 3G powered Apple iPhone. And while we still await official word from Cupertino, at least we now have an idea about which OTA updates can be downloaded using 3G.
Some smaller "point" OTA updates can now be installed on the Apple iPhone over a 3G connection
1. TDroid21 (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)
Wow!! That is quite a nice move by apple on a new ios faeture..
How is google going to counter apple's move? Let's see waht google will bring on teh table..
3. zealcrest (Posts: 7; Member since: 23 May 2011)
Lol Android has been doing OTA's for quite sometime now so they dont need to counter they are just going to keep bringing new stuff to *teh* table
10. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
He's trolling that was supposed to be sarcasm. Fail for you both lol.
2. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
Since iOS people want all these android features in iOS5, why not just get an android. Why get the pretender when you can have the throne?
4. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
And yet, most of those features in Android are so half baked that they aren't even worth having.
9. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Such as this article. It talks about how Apple built in safe guards to make sure there's enough battery and memory so you won't brick your phone which happens to a lot of android users with ota.
11. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
actually, that doesnt happen to a lot of android users. Android has been checkin battery levels and signal before OTA since at least android 2.0.
15. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Be careful now. Don't want the Fandroids to blow a fuse lol at such true comments.
24. TOdoubleD (Posts: 110; Member since: 28 Mar 2011)
You really just don't have any idea what your talking about.
26. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Keep telling yourself that if it makes your tugboat float
14. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Notifications, widgets, browser, etc. Things iOS can pull off effectively when used by Apple.
19. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
can you explain further? I would like to hear about that
27. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
I can explain it over and over, but it won't change anything because Fandroids can't accept that their OS is half baked in some areas.
32. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Why not give an answer and just judge the person making the question? Saying that any Os is fully perfect is not the way to go, and don't come with the "lag " as your only argument, it would like to hear something that's not calling people names
39. jroc74 (Posts: 3980; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
let me ask you a question...
Was notifications better on iOS before iOS5?
Which one was it better on: Android or iOS 4 and earlier?
How can you mention notifications being half baked on Android....when it wasnt better on iOS until iOS5?
41. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
not better jroc.. an EXACT COPY of Android Notifications in iOS5.
Now, will google sue the daylights out of apple for it? If Apple can sue Samsung over how widgets look, i sure as heck hope Google goes after Apple for copying their OS so blatantly
8. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
And you're trolling on yet another Apple article. I think I understand you better now. You're on t mobile and CAN'T have the iPhone. You've become very bitter as we can all see.
12. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, actually i wanted to bait you into making stupid comments to entertain me. Thanks for playing. :)
Just as a point of note, there are over 1 million iphones on tmobile. Tmobile has had its own iphone tech team through phone cust service for quite some time. And if rumors are correct, we will have the upgraded iphone 4S with the bigger camera and processor by fall.
And even then, I still wouldnt buy one. Why take a step back in tech and features? You iBots have no idea how many neat features your missing, and I'm not about to give them up.
The samsung hercules which is an oversized Galaxy2 will release about the same time with more power, features, and the ability to go the whole way to 42mb/s... again, if the rumors are right.
13. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I've used android so I'm fully aware of features I'm missing. Majority I don't want such as widgets. T-Mobile doesn't do 42 Mbps that's theoretical. Real world speeds are about 4.
17. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol, if you want to beleive that, go ahead. I get more than 4 on my 3g vibrant. I get way more than that on my 4g LG Slate, and ive seen our aircards that can hit that theoretical max hit well into the high 20's pretty regularly.
just because u cant hit it, doesnt mean no one else can.
16. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
There's a lot of bs coming from this. Galaxy S2 will as usual take forever getting updates just like the half baked Galaxy S did. I rather have features missing from an iDevice than to have a half assed effort on the Android device.
Lol, more power, features, etc. Yeah right, good luck having your phone to yourself because it'll be loaded with some apps just for you Fandroids.
18. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The galaxyS was one of the first devices to get the 2.3 update. The US galaxyS variants are held up by carriers. That is neither Google's nor Samsung's fault. Ive been running 2.3 for quite a while now on my galaxyS.
I wonder where you ibots get ur facts? iRetorts.com?
28. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Uh, no. Sasung sat on their asses for months with the Froyo update.
42. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
The euro galaxyS got the update like 3 or 4 months before america did. Samsung took its time at first but then only got held up by american carriers when it started rolling it out
20. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
well the Verizon iPhone cant use new features added, so maybe carriers have something to do after all
21. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i dont know how it is in the rest of the world, but in america carriers have final say on everything that goes on the phones.. updates included. That was the original reason VZW turned down the iphone way back when because apple refused to let VZW control features and such and VZW refused to allow a phone on its network that it couldnt control.
the update must pass google, then the manufacturer, then finally the carrier. If it doesnt pass one of these, its sent back until it passes all.
That is honestly the biggest reason android updates are so far behind sometimes.
22. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I buy Unlocked Phones.... so I cant really tell either.... I get the phone I want and a discount on my plan for bringing my phone to my company around 20% for a year ;D I go to websites check reviews, ask people who had it, read news and efforts from company to remain relevant, then I make my purchase, so far so good and hopefully my probably GS2 wont let me down when I decide to get it, waiting for overall impressions... so far its looking good
23. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
so far its lookin really good. :) im waiting to get my paws on one myself.. gonna be a while though :(
25. E.N. (Posts: 2218; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)
Verizon already officially confirmed that Apple never approached them with an offer to carry the iPhone.
35. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i worked for VZW when it happened. I heard it right from upper upper management. Official statements and reality arent always the same thing.
31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
Another made up fact VZW never turned down the iPhone and that's from the horses mouth. You're full of one wrong piece of info after another.
38. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
taco, your still an idiot.. the more you try to make me be wrong the dumber you look.
here is an article from way back then where they admit that they turned it down.. OI
"We said no. We have nothing bad to say about the Apple iPhone. We just couldn't reach a deal that was mutually beneficial.""
30. pete7625 (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 01 Jul 2010)
What "neat features" do you have that the ios doesn't? and if you say live wall papers and widgets so help me Lord. They are BOTH great platforms, each with its own features to satisfy the consumer. Having an ios device does not mean you you're behind in technology. just because it doesn't have the features to satisfy YOU, doesn't make it inferior to android.
33. protozeloz (Posts: 5328; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Agreed at some point both are selling good because both are good OS's and an excellent argument there where you said that because it does not have the features you are looking for does not make it an inferior Os
I could mention some stuff I like
-great mail experience (duh shouldn't even said it)
-integrated speech to txt (handy)
-phone directory based on your location (call nearest pizza find closest open gym, now with rating)
-complete standalone features(online backup and restore OTA) (soon in ios5)
-allowed to change most system Apps. (like getting a custom lock screen and other utilities)
Again that's stuff I like, you may not think they are neat
36. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
since purchases are all personal opinion, yea, if something doesnt have the features i want/need, then it does make it an inferior OS to me. You bought an apple phone why? because you found it to be a superior choice for whatever reason. I buy android for the same reason. Its superior in my opinion.
Yea, u can say
-speech to text
-speech control the entire phone
-multiple keyboards for different people
-the ability to change any piece of the system apps to something of my liking
-best notifications in the biz (why do u think iOS5 is making a direct copy)
-easy root access
-the abililty to change roms and features ad nauseum.
-i can change my battery
-wifi calling which makes it a free local call anywhere in the world and doesnt use minutes.
voice chat over 3g
-3d turn by turn voice navigation thats ACCURATE.
- the best version of google maps
-the best version of google anything
-reorganizable app screens
- not being told what i can and cant have on my phone because of some egomaniacs "morals".
- not having features randomly deleted because of said egomainiac.
- not having a years worth of detailed information on every place ive been sent back to headquarters
- no battery explosions
- no "antennagate"
- no spying on me without my permission.
and im sure i missed quite a few.. this is just a quick list of why i choose android over iOS
37. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
sorry, that was supposed to say "video chat over 3g"
40. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)
it just shows u that with all that that you just copy/pasted... still not one android device has beaten the iphone in sales... or at least create the havoc the iphone creates...look at the Zoom. better specs.. but consumer will buy the ipad2... any day....
43. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
hey now, i didnt copy paste any of that.. that was all from memory and hand typed!!! lol
ur comparing the zoom to the iphone.. they arent even in the same category. wanna compare a fridge and a sailboat next? lol
Android all together outsells the iphone by far worldwide. Yea, there hasnt been just 1 phone that outsells the iphone because there is a CHOICE. with iOS, you get their one phone or nothing.. with android you chose the phone that has the features u think are important.
Thats something that you iGuys just dont seem to get. Its not about single phone sales, its about OS sales. Since android is free and availible to anyone who wants it, Android will ALWAYS outsell iOS.
Google doesnt care if they have one phone that sells 50 million or 50 million devices that sell 1 each.. They make their money off of advertising on those devices.. and ioS devices.. and MS devices.. they make money off of EVERYONE. Apple only makes money off of Apple... and it has to split its profits between MS who owns like a 1/3rd of its company and now Nokia who it has to pay royaltys for iOS.. lol
45. jroc74 (Posts: 3980; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
Thats why at the end of the day.....all the fighting about whose the best doesnt matter.
iPhones and iPads and iPods are stiil gonna makes sales.
Android phones are still gonna make sales.
remixfa said why he chose Android. Why its the best to him.
The best whatever is what you want or like, not what someone tells you is the best.
Like he said, ppl chose the iPhone for whatever reason, and ppl choose Android for whatever reason.
I wanted an iPhone in 2008, but not any more. And probably will never want one. I would pick WP7 over the iPhone if I had to choose between them.
I dont think iDevces and Apple products suck, I just dont want one. If I hate anything, its some of Apple's business policies, practices.
44. pete7625 (banned) (Posts: 86; Member since: 01 Jul 2010)
Half the things you listed didn't even make sense or were just plain out lies. "no battery explosions"? "no spying on me without my permission"? Come on. I can obviously see you are completely biased. There's one thing to like an os over another, but to bash on one just because it's not for YOU, makes you an idiot. Grow up, they are both great os's. Maybe if you weren't so biased you'd see that.
29. THE.GHOST (unregistered)
Its about time wow a little tardy to the party apple! My BB storm could do that back in 2008. Yes i know android does that to but i did not want to start a riot, who is going to fight against RIM i know i'm not.
34. TDroid21 (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Apr 2011)
Seems like some pis here misinterpreted my posts taht suonded like a sarcasm or biased.. LoL