Samsung to announce Exynos 6 and Exynos S at CES?
Thanks to the inclusion of Heterogeneous Multi-Processing (HMP) in the Exynos 6, this will be a true octa-core chip like the MediaTek MT6592. It won't be a big.LITTLE chip that uses only one set of four cores at one time. But there is more. The rumor states that Samsung will introduce the Exynos S at the same time as the Exynos 6. While the latter will use ARM's 64-bit core, the Exynos S will use Samsung's own 64-bit core. According to the report, it will be 1.43 times faster than the Qualcomm Snapdragon 800, although which version of Qualcomm's silicon was not mentioned.
While there has been speculation that Samsung would enable HMP on the Exynos 5410 and Exynos 5420 via a software update, and thus convert the two chips to true-octa core status, the report reveals that the Exynos 5410 lacks both the hardware and software to be updated in this manner. The good news is that the Exynos 5420 is only missing the software to enable HMP so that chip could be updated into becoming a true octa-core processor. Bottom line? It's a bummer for those with the international Samsung Galaxy S4, powered by the Exynos 5410, and good news for the international Samsung Galaxy Note 3 driven by the Exynos 5420.
Will Samsung introduce two new Exynos chips at CES?
Thanks, Anonymous Tipster!
source: MyDrivers (translated), SamMobile via GforGames
1. Ashoaib (Posts: 2107; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
1.43times faster then 800, well thats not bad... what about LTE support in exynos Socs? I dont mind having exynos if its not laggy as I heard from different commenters on PA n gsmarena...
5. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 832; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)
I don't know what hapenned to Samsung this year, they used to make some of the best if not the best SoCs out there, but this year there was no reason to pick Exynos over Snapdragon, with the Snapdragon offering of the GS4 offering 4G and better battery life, and on the Note 3 the 4K recording offered by the S800 also made it a no brainer between the two SoCs.
6. ahomad (Posts: 150; Member since: 15 May 2012)
Well this is disappointing, SD805 is roughly 40% faster than SD800 and this is not their high end chip for 2014, they will have even more powerful chip for H2 2014 with 64bit support and will blow this away. I am not trolling but I was expecting alot more because this won't beat apple's A8
7. wilsong17 (Posts: 914; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)
you are the only one that care about apple
9. Ashoaib (Posts: 2107; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
A7 is not fast and A8 will not be either, just that it is powering relatively low resolution and light weight OS unlike higher resolutions of andriod manufacturers and heavy weight OS... apple's most specs are of a midranger.. if they'll put same specs and heavy os as of in sammy, htc, lg etc then I am sure their A7 will go on a long sleep
16. fireblade (Posts: 700; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
ummm... Sir, off-screen benchmark (1920 x 1080 but is not shown on the screen) says that Apple A7 is on par with SD800. Even at some cases A7 is faster than SD800. I'm not an Apple fan but the truth should be told
Here's the result from GFXBench:
GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex HD C24Z16 - Offscreen (1080p):
A7: 1504 Frames (26.9 Fps)
SD800: 1505 Frames (26.9 Fps)
GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex HD C24Z16 - Onscreen:
A7: 2311 Frames (41.3 Fps)
SD800: 1503 Frames (26.8 Fps)
Fill rate - Offscreen (1080p):
A7: 3464 MTexels/s
SD800: 1471 MTexels/s
Remember, A7 is still clocked at 1.3 GHz and SD800 is clocked at 2.3 GHz.
17. fireblade (Posts: 700; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
I agree with you that iOS is not as heavy as android and its multiprocessing capability isn't like android. But A7 chip is faster, because Apple designed it very well. 1 billion transistors is very huge for a mobile CPU, almost as much as today's PC CPU. Remember, Apple is experienced at making CPU and some of its employees are from AMD. Back in the day in the early 2000, Apple's PowerPC has ever beaten Intel Pentium 3 with its efficient design & L3 cache.
23. Ashoaib (Posts: 2107; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
A7 is manufactured by samsung, if apple is so efficient in designing CPUs then samsung should be so efficient in manufacturing CPUs, if I consider your reasoning correct then I dont under stand why samsung is unable to make such an efficient soc for theirself? after all they are getting all the designs of apple and they have a plate form to learn
12. MrKoles (Posts: 321; Member since: 20 Jan 2013)
If S805 isnt going to be Qualcomms high end chip, then why would it be Samsungs? They have the chance to come up with a new octacore processor somewhere in Q3 I guess.
2. ihavenoname (Posts: 1400; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
I like what I'm reading: 1.43 faster than Snapdragon 800.
3. Kishin (Posts: 610; Member since: 30 May 2013)
Great news, it would be even better if the via update could update the software from Touchwiz making the 64-bit useful. I can only imagine the speed and performance the note would be king of smartphone and phablets, sense Samsung is always pushing specs to the limit.
4. yowanvista (Posts: 304; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Define 'true-octa core', afaik the 5410 & 5420 both have 8 physical cores on the same die. The 5410 may have had a broken CCI-400 but the 5420 is able to use the GTS scheduler if enabled in the Linux Kernel. It doesn't matter how the cores are used since the 3 big.LITTLE models will yield more or less the same level of performance in real life.
Oh and those AMD Bulldozer/Piledriver processors have only 4 physical cores that AMD advertises as 'modules'. if your logic is followed those processors would actually be quad cores.
11. livyatan (Posts: 692; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
The exynos 5420 lags because througout the UI, four weak A7 cores are doing the work while the A15 are idling and are used only in gaming and heavy multitasking.
Once fully flexible (heterogenous), the big.LITTLE will get a decisive performance uplift
13. twens (Posts: 630; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
I hate people who talk like they know what they are saying yet they don't. I own an exynos 5420 note 3. And my phone is always one power save mode yet never lags. Don't say what you don't know. The note 3 only stutters once in a while and that's only when you are installing an app and try to navigate the home screens. The exynos 5420 at 1.9ghz is equally as fast as an s800 clocked at 2.3ghz so Sammy has done a good job at improving on the 5410 that was in the s4. When all cores are enabled on the 5420 it will blow the s800 out of the water.
14. yudi.nemesis (Posts: 1127; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
When all cores are enabled on the 5420 it will blow your note 3 ;)
18. loveHEAVYMETAL (unregistered)
correction : not "blow her/his note 3" but "burn his/her note 3"
19. dirty_indians (banned) (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
Note 3 with exynos is sh*t just like cow dung .
My note 3 with snapdragon is more powerful and has LTE.
You must be not too smart to buy a exynos note 3
15. jackto (Posts: 7; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)
agree with you Twens ,the exynos 5420 which is in the galaxy note 3 is a lot better than the exynos5410 (in the galaxy s4 ) ,my note 3 never lags or stutters even when gaming the most graphical demanding games. and battery life is great too.
and i am pretty sure that the next exynos will be a monster with arm8 64bits octacore a57(for performance) and a53(for power efficiency) with HMP (heterogeneous multi-processing to enable all cores at the same time ) there is also the new widcon technology which reduce heating a lot.
and for the gpu there's (Mali-T678) which is the highest Mali-T600 series performance made by ARM to date .
20. dirty_indians (banned) (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
My note 3 snapdragon runs circles around your exynos lag crap. You must be not too smart to cchoose a phone without LTE in 2013 . Snapdragon always runs faster and cooler. GS4 snapdragon has custom Roms support while GS4 octa it has nothing
21. dirty_indians (banned) (Posts: 9; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)
My note 3 can record 4K videos , your can't .
You must be regretting right now
22. sarge77 (Posts: 202; Member since: 14 Mar 2013)
i truly could care less about samsung exynos processor , i bet the lg odin 64bit processor which is also going to be octo core will be first in the US galaxy 5 will most likely be a newer snapdragon and hopefully LG G3 will give the US what we want.