Samsung Droid Charge and HTC Droid Incredible 2 priced on document
At $299.99, the Samsung Droid Charge is priced well above recent high-end phones. In fact, with a 1GHz processor, a 4.3 inch display, LTE connectivity and an 8MP camera, the phone has basically the same specs as the recently launched HTC ThunderBolt which was priced at $249.99. If you were thinking about buying this phone, don't fret. Not only could the price change, but Verizon could impose a $50 mail-in rebate that would take the price down to the $249.99 level that we would have expected for the phone in the first place.
The HTC Droid Incredible 2 shows a price of $199.99. As we told you, the original Droid Incredible has reached "End of Life" status at Verizon. The new Droid Incredible is expected to have a bigger 4 inch WVGA, TFT screen, along with an 8MP camera with dual Xenon flash. Under the hood will be a 1GHz Qualcomm MSM8655-the same chip seen on the HTC ThunderBolt. Of course, with the lower price comes the lack of 4G connectivity. But if LTE is not yet available in your area, or if you don't care about having the faster connection, the Droid Incredible 2 seems like a bargain.
Note that the leaked prices are Minimum Advertised Prices set by Verizon for its authorized dealers. MAP prices help keep the pricing consistent and allows Big Red to keep a certain high standard of quality among independent dealers.
A leaked MAP price list shows Verizon's pricing intentions for the Samsung Droid Charge and the HTC Droid Incredible 2 among others
1. AngrybErt (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 12:48 1
300 bucks!?!?!...I've been waiting on this Sammy because it's got the best screen in the industry....so I've read. Whats up with Samsung pricing there phone so high? Is it because it's a Droid?...and not an Android? Was considering the Thunderbolt but I've been hearing it's kinda buggy....might wait for the Bionic now because of the dual core processor. That should be one fast device
3. intheknow (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 13:12 2
I agree....for my money it's all about the screen. It's the one thing the user interfaces with 100% of the time. The Super AMOLED Plus technology has received very very good reviews in terms of quality and battery drain. I'm sure there will be another device made by a manufacturer (in all likelyhood Samsung again) that will "one up" them in terms of screen quality.....trying to keep up with technolgy is impossible for the end user in this indstry.
There is absolutly no difference between "Droid" and "Android". All "Droid" is....is a marketing ploy by VZW. In order to use the "Droid" name, the manufacturer's must pay a premium to VZW and in return the manufacturer gets the benefits of VZW marketing efforts with hopefully more sell through. The device needs to be considered a "With Google" device....meaning it has all the Google services on board AND it must be exclusive to VZW. The Samsung Fascinate is a perfect example....because it was a "Galaxy S" device and similar to the other devices launced at all te other carriers, VZW said "no go" to Droid branding.....in addition VZW required Sammy to pull the Google Search Bar, opting for Bing instead. VZW has been getting some sizable royalty checks from microsoft because of this move. The carriers have alot of "power" over the manufacturers....they buy the boxes so the manufacturers cave on alot of issues. VZW of all the carriers is the most bullish, because they sell the most handsets of any carrier. VZW often determines the color, materials, crapware, name....etc.
I wouldn't hold your breath on the Bionic being much better than the Thunderbolt or Charge in terms of performance....the benefits of dual core processing in an Android Smartphone cannot be realized untill the Android Ice Cream Sandwich OS. Froyo and Gingerbread do not know how to partision the data streams and treat the processor as 1 unit instead of 2, thus there is no benefit. Verizon (and all other carriers for that matter) only require that the manufacturers make their devices OTA (Over the Air) upgradable one OS version. Manufacturer's really don't want to allow updates to more than one OS because thats how they make money....buy selling devices. If I'm happy with the hardware and all I care about is getting the latest Android OS, why not just keep updating and updating. If Motorola were to launchthe Bionic with Froyo then they would only be required to update to Gingerbread and there would be no processor benefit what so ever. The dual core chip is expensive to buy....why use it if there is no improvement on speed or battery life. The only other reason would be marketing...to get us to buy a device with a dual core chip thinking thats it's better, when it actuality....it is not.
In conclusion, I'd go with the Charge because of the screen
7. AngrybErt (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 13:40 0
Makes sense and thanks for the info.....but again, why is the price so high?
8. intheknow (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 13:54 0
The price will most likely be $249.99....hard to say for certain. VZW has already "set the bar" at that price with the Thunderbolt so they would be hard pressed to go any higher. It's surpsing to..... because Samsung makes all their own hardware and as a result, their costs are substantially less than other manufacturers who have to "sub out" components. Another benefit is that Samsung's profit margins are the highest of any of the "large Scale" OEMS. Apple, Moto and HTC often "sub out" to Sammy for screens, memory and processors.
All the manufacturers try to keep their prices to the carriers in line with one another with devices in the same class. Often a carrier will ask that a manufacturer lower thier price so as to have as little impact on the their bottom line. Carriers will even demand manufacturers to lower specs to get the phones at a cheeper price...commonly refferred to as "raping a device". For example....Camera MP is always the first spec to get lowered in order to get a device cheaper. Want the per unit cost 5 bucks cheaper?.....how bout we put a 5MP camera in it instead of an 8?....simple economics.
13. jskrenes posted on 02 Apr 2011, 14:37 0
Another reason that not all phones get the "Droid" moniker is that LucasArts owns the rights to the word "Droid." Look at the legal copy fine print at the bottom of any commercial or poster that sports the word "Droid" on it, and you will see that the word is a registered trademark of LucasArts. Perhaps Big Red gets paid extra when a manufacturer wants their devices branded as Droids, but make no mistake, LucasArts gets a cut.
Samsung probably passed on the Droid branding because they had their devices categorized as part of their Galaxy line, and it would be weird to brand it as a Fascinate, Galaxy AND a Droid.
4. bossmt_2 posted on 01 Apr 2011, 13:19 1
What happened to 200 being the ceiling for smartphones on a 2 year.250 is as high as i'd ever go.
5. skymitch89 posted on 01 Apr 2011, 13:24 0
Well, the Droid Charge is supposed to have a dual-core processor as well as LTE. What I don't get is why charge an extra $50 for the added LTE radio and another $50 for a dual-core processor; I could see charging an extra $50 for both though.
6. intheknow (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 13:35 1
The Samsung Droid Charge is single core 1 GHz humminbird processor
9. YakityYak (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 14:15 0
Discounted phone pricing must work in conjunction with full retail pricing and a ETF the company declares on said phones. There once was a time whrere smart phones would be purchased and services would be terminated after any worry free garuntee. These phones would be sold on open markets to turn a profit. So carriers simply want the customer to honor their agreement, and the masses are the ones who pay the penalty.
My advice is to hold out for the Galaxy S 2, also on verizons network...
10. phonecrave (unregistered) posted on 01 Apr 2011, 21:35 0
Two things I've noticed for the Incredible S are incorrect:
1. Display should be Super LCD, not TFT
2. The flash is dual LED not Xenon