SOPA, PIPA and the continued efforts of media companies to kill the Internet
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1. biophone posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:14 13 0
Thanks Mike I haven't read the article yet but plan on it. I don't understand how it effects the internet and just heard general statements that its bad. Now I have a great article to read and will actually understand the laws and why they are bad. Maybe I will even sign the google pledge :).
6. biophone posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:30 7 0
Ok I get it now and whats wrong with it. I couldn't agree more great article mike. Going off to sign that petition!
10. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:57 1 0
explained to many guys and show them the megavideo song got 20 sings :D
14. biophone posted on 18 Jan 2012, 17:08 0 0
To everyone else this article is well worth a read if you want to learn more about sopa and pipa.
And to protozeloz I haven't heard that song :O
18. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2012, 17:43 0 0
The song its not that much of a deal could be catchy. The problem is that the song got banned from YouTube by a record company because a singer appears in the song the people that appeared on the video knew they will appear and the song has so content related with the record company (is a Mega upload song) the company sent a letter to YouTube asking them to take it down and the drama started.
Here is the banned video (available after they appealed to get it back) I'll let you judge if you think it breaks any copyright law to be banned, its the tip of of what companies can do with SOPA and PIPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Wvn-9BXVc&feature=youtube_gdata_pl ayer
27. biophone posted on 18 Jan 2012, 18:41 0 0
Well if the people knew they were going to be in the video the company has no right to challenge it. Thats insane.
Catchy song btw
29. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2012, 18:48 0 0
its what many said how big will be the price we have to pay so the big companies can feel secure... or a better question will they ever feel secure at all ?
30. biophone posted on 18 Jan 2012, 19:32 0 0
I don't care if they feel secure or not this is bulls**t.
33. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2012, 20:57 0 0
And like I said before it wont stop piracy at all
http://mashable.com/2012/01/18/sopa-and-pipa-wont-stop-piracy/
He said something interesting I personally feel identified with many "pirates " are users with little access to the content they want to get so a torrent or a site are the only options for then to see a content they want to see. I can buy software in US and fake my IP to buy music from the US because I can't here sometimes. But as many know I'm a manga fan see my profile picture? Manga is ultra rare to find and sometimes comes censored (adapted for "young readers" ) I have to say I read manga every week I can't find the ones I read and like in here so I just read it online until I get my hands on the retail version. If the manga company told me I could buy and read it online in good quality for a price and no censorship I would be sold. Instead I have a company that can't sell it where I am and is counts me as a stealing customer
Companies can come with better solutions than this law, solutions that help the content spread worldwide making more funds out of it but they decide to close it down in a selfish way
2. aliaselchore posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:19 4 0
if you want to understand what is all about insimple words just read paragraph #11, it starts of like this "Beyond all of these issues....."
3. ZEUS.the.thunder.god posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:24 3 0
its very sad that how these big greedy corporations trying to lobby and kill freedom. this is totally crazy. i think we all need to oppose it and STOP IT. F*CK the people who are trying to kill the freedom of internet. btw thanx Mike for very informative read and creating the awareness. i think together we can make a difference.
4. LoneShaolin posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:25 5 0
DAMN GOOD ARTICLE WHICH GETS TO THE CORE!!!!!!
5. Orbitman posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:29 4 0
thanks for a great article, Michael! a bunch of other sites have mentioned it, but now i finally understand what this is all about!
7. Lucas777 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:35 2 2
nice article. I think sopa is not the best written law, but its principles are just. No it should not attack pandora or any youtube uploader without discretion, but many things in the bill like preventing offshore piracy and drug counterfeiting is needed... and the bill does not allow whole websites to be shut down, rather the specific link that had the copyrighted material.. i do not think sopa should pass, but there needs to be some sort of regulation-- it happens everywhere else but the internet..
9. MichaelHeller posted on 18 Jan 2012, 16:47 6 0
There does need to be regulation on counterfeit products and drugs, but regulating "intellectual property" has nebulous benefits at best. However, the value of sharing and linking ideas has been proven. Ideas need to live breathe and evolve.
11. ZEUS.the.thunder.god posted on 18 Jan 2012, 17:00 1 0
very true. again thanx for the wonderful read. article is actually very informative. actually they are trying to do the same thing here in india but people are raising their voice against govt. and might be able to stop it hopefully.
17. Lucas777 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 17:42 0 0
yes, but protecting copyright is a very fundamental part of business... downloading copyrighted movies is not exactly beneficial to anyone except the person evading the law.. i know people like to do it but it is illegal and if they are going to keep it illegal they should enforce it..
in my opinion i dont think a good law about this stuff would shut down ideas.. it would in fact promote it by assuring u ur ideas would not be copyrighted.. but i do not agree with the vagueness of sopa.. it needs to have more definite terminology
21. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2012, 17:51 0 0
The problem is that those people can still pirate they will find workarounds. People that do not break the law suffers. It reminds me of a game that could only be played after checking it was legal on a server. The game had issues so people who paid for the game couldn't play because it had connection issues. While pirated version way playable, some had to download the pirated game to complete the game they bought. I have a useless copy of office because the number of times I can install it on my freagin same computer is limited! I have to get a crack so I could use my CD how is that fair?
23. Lucas777 posted on 18 Jan 2012, 18:04 0 0
well its not exactly fair.. but neither is downloading everything without paying.. what if everybody just decided not to buy office because of that? if this bill were to pass u would have to find another product, but if not u will just download it as u said… buying it would enhance the market.. it just shows this bill is more to help the economy than to limit the internet.. the government regulates stealing from stores so why not from stealing online? yes people will still find a way online but they still find a way in stores.. yet there is not a widespread problem of theft..
capitalism will drive u away from microsft and towards something else… is it fair to microsoft that u became unhappy with a product u knew u were paying for and then decided to steal in order to get what you want?
26. protozeloz posted on 18 Jan 2012, 18:28 0 0
I'm not saying that I'd rather not pay for the game or office. What I mean is that many attempts to stop pirates end up messing with the Average buyer because hackers and pirates can still find workarounds for the most meticulous ways to protect merchandise. Unlike merchandise stealing where people need to go though walls cameras and other stuff the walls that protect content and the security can be blown away in several ways like having regular police officers trying to hold Superman with bullets. Shots will be deflected and injure the bypassers. The heavy piracy is bad. But also a video with a YouTube song is how I've brought around 30% of my tunes and 50% of my artists. I will buy my next version of office when windows 8 is released. I think companies should put effort tying content to people instead of blocking content. Blocked content will make its way in the hands of the pirates anyways even if they have to use smoke signals.








