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Rumor: Serious issue with 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus model prompts Apple to stop using TLC NAND flash

Rumor: Serious issue with 128 GB iPhone 6 Plus model prompts Apple to stop using TLC NAND flash
A couple of weeks ago, we heard about a serious issue plaguing iPhone 6 Plus 128 GB owners – for unknown reasons, those handsets would just freeze up on their owners, or, even worse, enter a boot loop. Flash forward to a few days ago and we started hearing rumors that the culprit may be the TLC NAND flash memory, which is predominantly used in Apple's 128 GB toting phablets.

Today, a rumor, coming from “industry sources”, claims that Apple has, indeed, put its finger on the defect and it truly is the TLC memory. There have also been reports about 64 GB iPhone 6 models suffering from the same problem, which falls in line with industry insiders' claims that some 64 GB iPhone 6 units were also fitted with TLC.

We have no information on how much Apple's engineers worked on figuring out a fix the problem, but the leaksters claim that, ultimately, a final decision to stop using TLC NAND has been made and now all iPhone models will be fitted with MLC NAND instead.

Great news for future iPhone 6 owners, but what about those currently affected? Reportedly, there will be no recall; instead, Apple will try to patch things up on the software side as much as it can, with iOS 8.1.1. How effective this will prove to be remains to be seen.

Of course, we don't really expect Cupertinians to come out with an official announcement on hardware matters, so rumors and speculations is all we have until users are able to confirm whether the bug has been dealt with.


source: Business Korea via G4Games

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posted on 07 Nov 2014, 07:59 24

1. heyhoa (Posts: 26; Member since: 18 Jul 2014)


Early buy = stupid buy

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:03 3

4. justsayit (Posts: 256; Member since: 09 May 2013)


just ifans say that,

because they know early batch of iphone has lot of problems,but they still support iproduct

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:07 1

6. heyhoa (Posts: 26; Member since: 18 Jul 2014)


yea, there will be another problem with the new version as usual.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:18 9

13. Ziggy (Posts: 79; Member since: 03 Oct 2014)


If you want a good, durable product you WAIT, problems rise with ALL phones and electronics, but these problems are usually fixed within revisions of the same product that will mostly look the same. One example of this are game consoles.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:22 18

17. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


luckily most of iphone users are dumb users who dont know what is ram, rom, soc, nand etc they dont know what are issues... they just use phone for call, msg, fb or whatapps

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:30 4

20. heyhoa (Posts: 26; Member since: 18 Jul 2014)


It must be so true. I have seen quite a lot iphone users who type in his/her contacts' info at the new iphones one by one.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 09:03 2

33. LiquidGalaxy (Posts: 332; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Or they are just not super geeks who give a toss about that stuff - now go and do something like 'flash' your device or whatever you guys do, theres a good lad..

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 12:43 5

81. FAKEPERSONA (unregistered)


You're right, money can't buy Brains...

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 21:45 1

103. dmh0284 (Posts: 50; Member since: 04 Apr 2014)


Not yet. Just wait til the iBrain drops in 2025.

That one you might want to wait a couple generations before pulling the trigger.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 09:03 3

34. Sir-Lancelot (banned) (Posts: 98; Member since: 05 Nov 2014)


They hate technology.
They like to live in the past.
Then again, to desperate and the need for 2014 specs, but Apple will not supply.
"Apple's theroy": ......(worship us).

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 09:31 1

42. Gavst3r (Posts: 15; Member since: 20 Oct 2014)


I dare bet that the majority of Android users do not know what ram, rom etc etc are either. Most people go for aesthetically pleasing products, no matter what the innards contain. My missus is a prime example.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 13:38 2

84. jphillips63 (Posts: 229; Member since: 04 Jan 2012)


I wonder what is yourselves of education? To say that those use iPhones or apple products are dumb and have no clue of the things you say says a lot about your level of education or shall I say lack of education.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 17:02

95. Jimrod (Posts: 1415; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Where most Android users spend their days working on particle physics, quantum mechanics and string theory on their Galaxy S4's of course...

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:42 13

24. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4880; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


That's a $1,000.00 purchase. I would be PIST if that happened to me. How are these imperfections with the iPhone 6 Plus keep slipping through those cracks?

First Bendgate, then iOS8 debacle, & now the TLC NAND Flash...

Is it me of is Apple getting super sloppy... Mass producing in effect defective devices? I mean one issue is ok, BUT 3 & the phone is not even 2 months old?

Hummmmmm?

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 12:28 9

78. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


Apple has always been cheap when it comes to components. They use second and third tier parts because the money they save is far more than they will ever pay out in repairs/replacements. Mostly people upgrade their phones every 1-3 years, so even the cheap parts should last just along enough.

Now using bargain basement TLC flash with a controller from a braindead company (Anobit) that stopped working the day Apple bought them... this is designed to fail and fail hard.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 23:35

107. dimas (Posts: 2324; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)


iPhones don't cost that much in production. I am surprised that they didn't use Samsung NAND flash. Maybe they're already acting like Beats: More expenses on marketing and hyping up the product than building up their quality.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 12:41

80. androtaku (Posts: 242; Member since: 12 Dec 2013)


no android fans buy early android device?
dumd droid fan

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 17:54 9

98. cheetah2k (Posts: 1628; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Well, Apple refused to use Samsung NAND in their phones, so you get what you get ROFLMAO

posted on 08 Nov 2014, 15:19

116. LionStone (Posts: 764; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)


So what you are saying is Apple needs Samsung for its phone to work properly!? Oh the irony ;-)

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 23:57 1

109. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Early adopters are retarded. Its ALWAYS better to wait at least 6 months until the technology is proven and fixes have been applies.

posted on 08 Nov 2014, 11:25 1

115. T.Law (Posts: 415; Member since: 10 May 2014)


After antennagate, bendgate, burngate, crashgate, staingate and now this, it seems to be true when it comes to iPhones.

posted on 09 Nov 2014, 09:54

117. VHMP01 (banned) (Posts: 93; Member since: 27 Aug 2014)


Apple Pay = BOA double charges.
Crashgate, Freezegate, Updategate (iOS 7, 8).
Bendgate, Antennagate, Burngate, Staingate.
iMapgate, iMessageGate, iCloudgate (Naked Famous)...

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:00 27

2. DaHarder (Posts: 177; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)


Good... Now Apple needs to see fit to replace my (and other's) iPhone 6 Plus 128gb that's been randomly rebooting several dozen times a day since the day I/we bought them

NOTE: To all those ignorant Apple apologist out there - Don't Even Bother Denying Apple's Error Here... They Simply Need To Replace/Fix The Devices and Be Done With It.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:05 4

5. heyhoa (Posts: 26; Member since: 18 Jul 2014)


"There will be no recall; instead, Apple will try to patch things up on the software side as much as it can.." It's your fault buying it too early.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:10 13

9. Captain_Doug (Posts: 1026; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


Slow down there, the company should've thoroughly tested its product before releasing it. Now, being an early adopter does come with risks but that doesn't consitute fault.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 17:57 1

99. cheetah2k (Posts: 1628; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


The problem being here is that Apple no longer uses industry best products in their phones, instead 2nd rate rubbish that has now caused problems.

They should have used Samsung NAND full stop, but PIG headed apple refuse to treat their customers with respect by using the best parts on the market.

Sucks to be Apple users right now IMO Apple don't give a fk about consumers anymore

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:13 24

10. DaHarder (Posts: 177; Member since: 10 Oct 2009)


B.S.... It's Apple's fault for releasing a FLAWED device.

You can't be so stupid as to believe that companies (especially Apple) release products so people Won't But Them... Then Again You Do Appear To Be Rather Daft!

Putting a near US 1000.00 dollar device on the market without fully testing every aspect of it is completely inexcusable for any company, even more-so from Apple, that (allegedly) has one of the most well-funded/regarded R&D teams on the planet.

Save all that inane 'Blame The Customer' rhetoric for your brain washed little mates stuck in Apple's RDF- I'm A Customer Who Spent Near US 1000.00 On My iPhone 6 Plus/128gb and Want A Device That 'JUST WORKS" For My Hard Earned Money - PERIOD!

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:20 4

14. Ziggy (Posts: 79; Member since: 03 Oct 2014)


Agreed. Sure, buying electronics early is not a great idea but this is stupid.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 08:25 7

18. Sakeem (Posts: 534; Member since: 05 Sep 2012)


Well said. Very refreshing to hear from an Apple user that has no problem being critical of Apple. Most seem to think they can do no wrong.

posted on 07 Nov 2014, 09:16

39. Furbal (Posts: 1025; Member since: 22 Sep 2012)


If my ipad air 2 starts doing this I'm going to be very angry....if they use tlc in them.

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