Rumor: Microsoft Lumia 950 XL to be priced similar to the iPhone 6s with 200EUR worth of accessories included
45. medicci37 (Posts: 1268; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)
Another brilliant business decision by Microsoft!!!
66. Mattbssr (Posts: 30; Member since: 28 Jul 2015)
The lumia 950 XL is a great phone with high end specs and the powerful win10 mobile running the device it seems very interesting even to me there's actually nothing wrong with it(nothing too serious and I don't have a problem with win store they have all I need! :) )
I'm using android for nearly 4and a half years and I have an ipad air2
I'm very bored with android mostly because of all the bugs and crashing but still the openness of the android is a wonderful option, I love using my ipad but ios is a very close os and that is sometimes a pain in the a$$! and for a phone, iphone Does not have high end specs but still the os is very simple and easy to use!
But seeing all these videos on YouTube and seeing what a great os this is actually change my mind WP's are really underestimated!
I will definitely buy the upcoming flagship?
2. Scarambay (Posts: 79; Member since: 18 Jan 2013)
Windows Phones are still around?
Hey, also, my Windows Phone doesn't have any apps, or games. :(
4. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
Then you haven't opened the store and downloaded any. Plague Inc, candy crush, asphalt 8, angry birds, bad piggies, flappy bird, etc.. The "Windows phone doesn't have any apps" argument is no longer valid.
16. Rydsmith (Posts: 486; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Ah yes. Apps like Chase Bank, Snapchat, Hearthstone, American Express (the one of the app store is just the mobile site). Once you are out of the games, the listings are just a joke on the app store.
19. Extraneus (Posts: 121; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)
With two exceptions - an specific investment app and a specific kindergarten app - I have all the apps I need for my Lumia 1520. Then of course, I'm not an angsty teenager with a compulsive need to be present on every social network known or unknown to man...
48. gehrig (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)
You might not be an angsty teenager, but you know who is? Like half of everyone who buys a phone nowadays. That's why iPhones are so popular with kids and teenagers (other than brand recognition), they have every app, game, and social network known to man.
83. Jason78 (Posts: 234; Member since: 10 Apr 2013)
You must not be a business traveler either. I have two Lumias but I'm still missing half of my hotel, car, and airline apps not to mention the BBC new app. I'm waiting on Window 10 hoping that the promise that we will be able to install and use android apps in true. If not, I'll look into a new android phone when it come time to replace the Lumia 1020.
Microsoft better update the 1020 to Windows 10. It easily meets the spec requirements.
23. mistercarter (Posts: 349; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)
sorry but i have a Lumia 820 with Windows 10 preview installed and there are no apps.. it's gotten a bit better recently, but the apps available are antiquated or lack features compared to Android or iOS versions
and trust me, there's nobody more eager to see Windows Phone take off than myself, cuz i really need that 3rd alternative in mobile ecosystems
74. iusshpandeh (Posts: 250; Member since: 23 Jul 2014)
It's not only about apps quantity! It's also about the features in the current app! No video calling in Messenger holds me back to iPhone every time! I also need imo app time and again! But there are some good games in the WinStore! Given that some are universal and I can also play the game on my Surface by a single paid amount, it's awesome! I loved Monument Valley, Machinarium, Leo's Fortune, Darklings, Lara Croft Go, Badland, Riptide GP 2, Rayman Fiesta Run, and the new Order and Chaos 2 is pretty awesome! I don't miss games on winstore! I miss features in some app and some local apps!
65. jos_031 (Posts: 60; Member since: 12 Jun 2012)
i am ready to switch to windows phone when i get official google apps..
69. catt4u (Posts: 143; Member since: 09 Jul 2011)
I tried to find LogMeIn remote desktop app but with no luck :-(
And what about paying with a Lumia?
Oh, and the most important one for me, the Chrome browser seems to be banned by MS.
At least overhere in the Netherlands, Europe that is.
70. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
The chrome browser isn't banned, its just not available, however, why would you want it? It eats so much ram and cpu cycles.
5. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
- click the store button
- search for apps and games
- click instal.
13. dimas (Posts: 1799; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)
That's some 2012 issue you got there. Most wp users I know don't have such lacking app problems.
3. rd_nest (Posts: 1578; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
reduce the price, most people don't need a lot of accessories
7. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
The dock is necessary for a distinguishing feature of the phone, called continuum. No other OS has an equivalent. Including the accessory for this feature to work is a smart move.
9. rd_nest (Posts: 1578; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
People want a phone first. It's not like Continuum is going to seel the phone. It's a good feature, but not something that alone will make this device better than others.
Keep the proce low and sell the accessory seperately. Whoever wants it will get the accessory, whoever don't will not pay for it. Why would I want to pay for an accessory I think is not important to me?
21. Extraneus (Posts: 121; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)
Hey, people are paying top dollar for an iPhone even though 90% of users could get along just fine with devices a quarter the price; it's a matter of showing people what they need instead of letting them decide for themselves... :-) This dock makes sense, though - it'll promote the continuum feature, which certainly has the potential to radically change the way people access computing.
24. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
please stop comparing it with iphone... if people pay top dollars for iphone doesnt mean, they will pay for 950XL as well... I want to buy 950XL but not interested at all to pay top dollars... rather I will buy Note 5 or G4 Pro or Huawei Mate 8 when it will be available... Microsoft has to price their phone right if they want to lure people like me, who are interested but not willing to pay more for a non-popular device and OS...
33. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
While I very much understand your point of letting the customer choose which accessories they want to buy, and while that is generally a valid argument, there is a strong point to be made for the importance of controlling the user experience of your product.
If the decision is left entirely up to the customer, they may purchase no accessories that the manufacturer feels is an integral part of the experience that they are selling. This lesser experience ultimately reflects negatively upon the manufacturer, even if they had all the components for a "better" experience available.
It's the same reason why Microsoft wouldn't initially sell you the XBOX One without the Kinect -- the Kinect is a huge element in the overall product. It's the same reason why Mercedes doesn't even offer you a car with cloth seats -- customers may voluntarily to cheap out and choose a lesser experience, ultimately degrading Mercedes' reputation for providing a premium experience.
68. rsiders (Posts: 830; Member since: 17 Nov 2011)
Irrelevant maybe but still pretty darn cool. The ability to run Netflix to my big screen while playing a game or Skype my family at the same time from one device is unmatched. And while you probably can find some way to do it on Android it will indeed require a lot of work and unofficial software to do so. So yeah, still pretty darn cool.
73. joey_sfb (Posts: 5229; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I am not saying that Microsoft should not view Windows Phone as equal to the iPhone. Wait! i just did.
Will any WP fans will pick an WP phone over an iPhone at the same price?
I am pretty sure the majority would pick iPhone and for those that pick the WP10 phone would regret it in a month time when Microsoft reduce the phone price to increase sales.
32. 7a6d3e7 (Posts: 22; Member since: 14 Sep 2015)
Would u say this accessory is more important than a type keyboard for the surface pro 3
47. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Yes actually since it's not a keyboard it's an unknown gadget no one even knows about it or think it worth the money so it's a great strategy to put it on phones boxes.
6. sip1995 (Posts: 1543; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
At least the Lumia 950 (not the xl) it's cheaper....great :)
8. jesus_sheep (Posts: 219; Member since: 18 Apr 2015)
I don't think top-end Windows phones are worth anything more than $400 unless they improve the quality of their app store.
34. Cslfiero (Posts: 68; Member since: 29 Jun 2015)
What's wrong with it? It's not a clusterf%$#ed minefield of dubiously optimised crash factories?
36. Penny (Posts: 1647; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
Okay so you're saying you like the pricing then because this includes about $225 worth of accessories, which makes the phone about $425 on its own for the flagship XL?
10. dimas (Posts: 1799; Member since: 22 Jul 2014)
Good thing microsoft dropped the nokia brand. They're just going to destroy the legacy if they continue this absurd pricing range for their windows phones.
12. sonisoe (Posts: 405; Member since: 06 May 2009)
i do want to give windows another shot....
14. kefalin (Posts: 212; Member since: 08 Feb 2015)
Why should i pay so much money for some plastic ugly phone,when i can have decent looking and firstly metal phone? cmon microsoft,wake up.... accessories are not what i need...
17. TheBiz (Posts: 231; Member since: 13 Apr 2015)
pleez get off that cheap plastic mentality of youre's and polycarbonate build is and always will be my preference over the cheap alluminium
literally its cheap cuz its the most abundant metal on earth
and if i were to choose a premium build it would be carbon fibre or magnesium alloy or some steel
and saying all this im using alluminium clad s6 cuz im on android right now and it was the best when i bought one
anyways i still will be buying a lumia flagship after using final version of win10 on my old 630 if im impressed by the reviews of 950xl or better yet will be waiting for surface phone
51. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Just don't read or even look at PAs reviews you can go for gsmarena or even Windowscentral for this.
22. Extraneus (Posts: 121; Member since: 02 Jun 2012)
Polycarbonate is an awesome material for smartphones; metal is a horrible material. Premium? Of course, it's in the eye of the beholder, but on any rational basis polycarbonate wins hands down. You go right ahead and pay a fortune for an inferior finish...
25. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
aluminium is one of the ugliest metals available... it is cheap, weak, prone to ugly dents, and develop scratches over time... if you are coming from metal clad premiumness mentality then demand stainless steel
35. 7a6d3e7 (Posts: 22; Member since: 14 Sep 2015)
You buy a $1000 "premium" looking metal flagship and then buy a $10 ugly plastic/silicone case to protect the phone. We get that look for half the price
46. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
So you admit that polycarbonate is ugly and feels like it costs $10?
Whatever, I'll take metal/glass GS6 over plastic Lumia all day, especially design wise.
53. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
And then again getting a f**king piece of s**t 10$ case to protect it nice.
And i don't think if there's much poly cases they're just cheap plastic mostly remember polycarbonate is flexible and is harder than some metal.
15. Pattyface (Posts: 1510; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
If priced close to the regular 6s then I maymay pick one up.
18. hitmantb (Posts: 76; Member since: 26 Jul 2012)
Windows Phone is missing all of the top grossing games. Microsoft can only get hits from 2012 into their web store AFTER they stop making money on iOS/Android.
Clash of Clans (most successful game on any platform ever, making more than 1 billion dollars a year)
Marvel: Contest of Champions
Just to name a few. Besides, any new game will not hit Windows Phone for a long time. Microsoft is better off focusing on budget devices.
54. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
I play the age of empires castle s siege and i can say with confident that clash of clans can suck it!
62. Pattyface (Posts: 1510; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
Sorry im not a child so I could care less about crappy mobile games.
79. ninja_master (Posts: 306; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Adults play mobile games too you know.
20. Mrmark (Posts: 262; Member since: 26 Jan 2013)
Sprint can pick up a high end windows phone = win for me
27. Cslfiero (Posts: 68; Member since: 29 Jun 2015)
I'd prefer Microsoft's fancy new folding keyboard instead of the NFC gizmo. I fully intend to continuum flex my phone into my pc when I'm out/traveling. With the dock and speaker, I don't have to pack an entirely separate messenger bag for a lappy. In fact, I suspect this will be my primary pc until pcie 4.0 drops later in 2016.
28. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 1837; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
I'd proudly pay that off-contract price for this type of Windows Phone:
For those in the renders and rumors, screw off overpriced cheap junk...
30. Cslfiero (Posts: 68; Member since: 29 Jun 2015)
You might consider giving these arm processor phones a chance. The entire reason continuum, Android api integration, and universal apps initiative exists is to eliminate the schism between pc (x86) and phone (arm). Once that is fully realized, a surface phone will be redundant and just all around a battery hog.
56. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Nope that will not happen cause of a simple thing Intel.(and if you don't get it i mean Intel's 86x/64x socs for phones).
31. DeusExCellula (Posts: 1084; Member since: 05 Oct 2014)
fcking yes TAKE MY MOTHERFCKING MONEY
29. Cslfiero (Posts: 68; Member since: 29 Jun 2015)
Only spastic ADHD children complain about the so called app gap. Checking app usage reveals the truth, most people would do better with greater functionality in specific apps they use all the time.
Microsoft is doing just that. Instead of the latest shooter or tower defense game or silly rate my life social network, they are merging your outlook, web browser, and skype/lync experience across devices so that you will not have to sacrifice utility just because you're on your phone.
37. Guaire (Posts: 494; Member since: 15 Oct 2014)
Windows mobile won't gain a substantial market share with these unappealing new Lumias, Microsoft needs to convince other brands especially Chinese ones to making Windows phones IMO.
57. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Like Acer and elephone you even check the news?
61. Guaire (Posts: 494; Member since: 15 Oct 2014)
Do you really think that unimportant brands would make any difference?
They needs Windows variants of Samsung S7 and Xiaomi Mi5 for example.
71. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1011; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
Microsoft has been working with Xiaomi users and provided them with a windows 10 rom to flash on their devices.
77. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
I don't think if Samsung is Chinese wtf!
78. Guaire (Posts: 494; Member since: 15 Oct 2014)
Firstly I didn't say ONLY Chinese brands.
Secondly do you think Acer is Chinese?
Lastly is this your answer really?