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No Nougat for your Android phone? You might want to blame Qualcomm

No Nougat for your Android phone? You might want to blame Qualcomm
The HTC One (M8) is past the period during which HTC promised to update the phone to the latest version of Android. Despite that, the truth is that you can blame Qualcomm for the model reaching the end of the line at Android 6.0. In fact, you can also blame the chip manufacturer for the Nexus 5 also reaching the end of the line at Android 6.0.

According to ROM developer and HTC tipster LlabTooFeR, Qualcomm is not releasing updates to the graphic drivers on the Snapdragon 800 and the Snapdragon 801 chipsets. The former powered the HTC One (M8) and the Nexus 5 which is why those two phones won't be updated to Android 7.0.

Some of the other handsets affected by Qualcomm's decision include the Samsung Galaxy S5, Samsung Galaxy Note 3, LG G3, the Sony Xperia Z3 and other models. Most, if not all of these handsets, probably would have had no problems running Android 7.0. But alas, we will never know. And even if Qualcomm had decided to update the drivers, there is no guarantee that there would have been manufacturer support for the update.

Nonetheless, if you feel the need to display your anger, you might be barking up the wrong tree by accusing the phone's manufacturer for the decision to stop updating your handset. You might want to vent at Qualcomm for deciding not to update the graphic drivers on those two aforementioned chipsets.

Qualcomm's decision not to update the graphic drivers on the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is one of the reason why certain phones won't be getting updated to Android 7.0

Qualcomm's decision not to update the graphic drivers on the Snapdragon 800 and 801 is one of the reason why certain phones won't be getting updated to Android 7.0


source: @LlabTooFeR via SlashGear

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posted on 25 Aug 2016, 22:46 40

1. Unordinary (Posts: 2231; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)


Android NoGet.

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 22:50 4

2. boriqua2000 (Posts: 96; Member since: 11 Mar 2009)


I hope we don't get forced to download nougat on the note 7. Every upgrade always messes up the way the phone runs. Nougat has nothing worth upgrading to.

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 22:54 5

4. joey_sfb (Posts: 6338; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


While that might be true for some cases, I rather have the options to not upgrade than having no choice at all.

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:25 2

9. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 15778; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


Just like Lollipopgate did to some of the Galaxy phones.

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:33 1

12. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2388; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


I must agree on this, official lollipop was bad on my Note 4, had to go for a custom ROM.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 00:11 1

13. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 112; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)


It ruined my Note 3, I still use it around the house on WiFi and if I enable sync my battery won't last more than a few hours with the screen off, something with Google services just drains it.

Had issues with my Note 4 that angered me to the point I called the update lolifail, apps crashed left and right and phone always froze.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 01:18 1

19. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2388; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


It was bad on mine, but not as bad as yours lol.
No random reboots or freezes on mine, the app crashes were more frequent though, I have the T-Mobile version.
The lollipop custom roms were awesome and totally worth the hassle of installing them.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 02:03 1

20. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 112; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)


Note 3 works fine for casting videos to my TV, but the software is crippled, stuck on 5.0.1

Note 4 got updated and fixed, both phones Verizon.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 03:51

27. Podrick (Posts: 995; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


It was quite opposite in my Z3c. After hearing Lollipop issues, I avoided it for months, one day installed out of curiosity and I was surprised. Just as fast and stable as it was with Kitkat with battery life even better. Only downside was how the drop down notification/quick settings worked. I preferred Kitkat one.

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 22:52 9

3. joey_sfb (Posts: 6338; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I hate Qualcomm already! Need Intel to make ARM chips quick!!

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 22:55

5. maple_mak (Posts: 745; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)


Because of Vulkan, which required OpenGL 3.1 or newer, which Snapdragon 800/801 doesn't support.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 00:30 2

16. vincelongman (Posts: 4831; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


OpenGL is for desktops
OpenGL ES is for mobiles (Embedded Systems)

OpenGL ES 3.1 came in 2014, but its features are from OpenGL 4.3 and 4.4 (2012 and 2013)

So its Qualcomm's fault for either not bothering with updating the 800/801 firmware
Or for not designing their GPUs to support the current OpenGL version at the time
e.g.
ARM's 2012 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.1 and AEP (both from 2014)
And their 2013 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.2 and Vulkan (from 2015 and 2016)

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 02:54

22. maple_mak (Posts: 745; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)


Oh yeah! I forgot the ES version! Thanks mate.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 03:25

24. vincelongman (Posts: 4831; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


No worries!! :)

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:15 1

6. SamsungOfficial1 (banned) (Posts: 5; Member since: 30 Jul 2016)


CR@pdragon is a joke, exynos can easily pimp slap every one of them

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:21 9

8. sarcastic_nerd (unregistered)


Well, exynos S5 and note 4 isn't getting nougat anyway. So your point is invalid.

And Samsung is the worst at outing drivers for exynos variants. That's why there are no AOSP ROMs for exynos variants.

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:31 1

10. RoboticEngi (Posts: 923; Member since: 03 Dec 2014)


http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/orig-development/slimrom-6-0-galaxy-s6-t3271931

FAIL...

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 00:41 6

17. sarcastic_nerd (unregistered)


This is just a copy of the buggy release of CM13 for S6. Trust me, I have used the S6 edge for over an year, and the AOSP ROMs are s**t because Samsung didn't release drivers.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 03:47 2

26. Podrick (Posts: 995; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


This guy again lol. Welcome back

posted on 27 Aug 2016, 11:07

34. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3171; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


If it's a joke, why is your beloved Samsung putting those Soc's in handsets as well? Do you not take Samsung seriously? You are okay with your brand sticking crap in their phones?

posted on 27 Aug 2016, 14:22 1

35. JunitoNH (Posts: 1931; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


I know is your name and avatar, but usually you are very logical. Your response doesn't even read like you. Are you ok? Or did someone hack your account?

posted on 28 Aug 2016, 16:11 1

37. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 3171; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


It was me making that comment, but reading back the comment,it was a bit weird lol. Let's blame it on the 90 hour workweek and not too much sleep :)

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:20 5

7. sarcastic_nerd (unregistered)


Come on, M8 or any 2014 Q1 phone was not getting android 7 anyway. Those phones are 2.5 years old. Android OEMs only support phones for 2 years.

Heck, even non nexus Q3 2014 phones won't get 7.0, like the note 4. This is just because companies like Samsung want you to upgrade despite you having a perfectly capable phone.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 00:27 2

15. IosDroid (Posts: 77; Member since: 03 Dec 2015)


That's true for official ROMs but this way we won't even get a Nougat custom ROMs. And that sucks big time.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 00:43 1

18. sarcastic_nerd (unregistered)


Well, ARM32 is a dying platform anyway. Supporting it after 2.5 years would be a real waste of resources.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 02:42

21. uzimafioso (Posts: 406; Member since: 15 Jul 2014)


Whaaat? There is no chance at all that 801 devices will get ROMs for Nougat? Will SD805 be supported? Even though they're both 32-bit chips?

posted on 25 Aug 2016, 23:31 1

11. techlover2017 (Posts: 65; Member since: 22 Aug 2016)


I think its enough for all to run three major os version in 2 to 3 years of time. And afterall greed never dies.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 00:24

14. torr310 (Posts: 982; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


Marshmellow is good for another year.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 03:46

25. Podrick (Posts: 995; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


Qualcomm going downward since Snapdragon 810.

posted on 26 Aug 2016, 05:59 1

28. GeorgeAF (Posts: 60; Member since: 25 Feb 2014)


Judging by the way my Note 4 runs on Marshamallow, I probably wont upgrade to Nougat "if" it ever gets the update

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