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MediaTek's Helio X30 leaks; same design as Helio X20, but with new cores?

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MediaTek's Helio X30 leaks; same design as Helio X20, but with new cores?
MediaTek's Helio X20 chipset features a deca-core CPU with two Cortex-A72 cores (running at 2.2GHz), and two quad-core clusters containing the Cortex-A53 CPU (running at 2.0GHz and 1.4GHz). Today, specs for the Helio X30 have leaked, and if correct, the chip will continue to offer a deca-core design. The only change will be in the cores employed on this chip.

According to this leak, which should be taken with a grain of salt (or you can take ten grains, one for each core), the Helio X30 will feature four Cortex-A72 cores for the tasks that require power. Maximum clock speed will be 2.5GHz. There will be two Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2.0GHz maximum, two Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.5GHz, and two of the just introduced Cortex-A35 cores running no faster than 1GHz.

We have yet to see any handset hit the market with the MediaTek MT-6797 SoC, the Helio X20 chip that should pop up in some 2016 flagship handsets. Interestingly, an earlier leak pertaining to the Helio X30 back in August, correctly called for the quad-cluster design that today's rumor has presented us with. If the rest of the rumored specs from August are true, the Helio X30 will support LPDDR4 RAM. And the Helio X30 will supposedly carry ARM's latest and greatest graphics processor in the Mali-T880.

Thanks for the tip!

source: MyDrivers (translated) via GizmoChina

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posted on 12 Nov 2015, 00:23 1

1. zeeBomb (Posts: 1962; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Power drain like no tomorrow.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:19 1

5. Carl3000 (Posts: 156; Member since: 11 Oct 2014)


Not really. All they need to do is add hotplugging to turn cores on and off based on system load, which almost every CPU already has.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:39 6

9. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Hotplugging is not a very good solution. If you need to switch between cores often, the cost(time, resources) of making a core active and inactive again and again takes away all the benefits.

What they can do is to power gate or clock gate the idle cores to improve performance. They will consume a little power but the latency gains will be significant.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 02:54 1

21. vincelongman (Posts: 4240; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Good point

Samsung has been both of those for their recent SoCs
A clock-gating state called WFI (Wait-for-interrupt), an individual core power-gating state and a cluster power-gating state.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive/6

Not sure about MediaTek

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 03:00 7

22. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Mediatek and Qualcomm used hotplugging in their 2015 flagship SoCs. That was the major point for the micro stutters in SD 808 based devices. Otherwise, there should be no reason for Nexus 5X or Moto X pure to stutter, especially since the Nexus 5 runs just fine.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 03:29 1

24. vincelongman (Posts: 4240; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Dam, that's really disappointing
Hopefully the 820 uses clock-gating and power-gating so we don't see those issues again

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 05:02 5

29. mjk2804 (Posts: 32; Member since: 27 Apr 2015)


@ TyrionLannister Sometimes I read ur comments more than the article.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 06:42

30. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


Thanks :)

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 09:05 1

38. Techist (Posts: 237; Member since: 27 Jan 2015)


There's a couple of guys here that really know their stuff - TyrionLannister, vincelongman, the guy with the superman-android (I forget his handle), etc. I especially enjoy it when they interact over a topic - you can really learn a lot. It's worth enduring some of the other drivel to get to.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 09:10

39. joeytaylor (Posts: 427; Member since: 28 Feb 2015)


I liked reading Tyrion's blog post...a lot of info an average guy could understand

posted on 04 Dec 2015, 08:41

41. hauhauhau7 (Posts: 2; Member since: 04 Dec 2015)


delete

posted on 04 Dec 2015, 08:43

42. hauhauhau7 (Posts: 2; Member since: 04 Dec 2015)


i've been searching the whole Internet why my LG G4 is stuttering like hell, i had a Nexus 5 then a HTC M8, they were smooth....don't know what to do about the G4 it's the maximum size for me, i was thinking of the S6, i don't know if the RAM management got better with the updates...what phone would you recommend? thx

posted on 07 Jan 2016, 16:12

43. ermayo93 (Posts: 14; Member since: 04 Jun 2012)


Clocking, yes.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 07:15

31. zeeBomb (Posts: 1962; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


Yeah, but I wouldn't resort to hotplugging tho. BTW is their hotplugging even good compared to one like MPDecision?

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 00:24 1

2. carlemillward (unregistered)


I feel like Mediatek is always 1 or 2 years behind the competition in terms of graphics performance. Mali-T880MP4 is still behind Mali-T760MP8.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:30

7. Ruturaj (Posts: 1299; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


Behind yes but not by much. T880 would do much better than previous gpus.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:58

14. carlemillward (unregistered)


For what it's worth, it's still a major improvement over their previous GPU's (PowerVR 6200 and Mali T628MP4)

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 02:01

16. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


You don't understand it as u following childishly the numbers..
T880is efficient and drains less energy
And has same performance ast760..
U need to get life.. Or study

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 04:15 1

25. drifter77 (Posts: 197; Member since: 12 Jun 2015)


The guy was stating his opinion, you don't have to be so rude. If that's the case, you better go and learn some English instead of bashing others.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 04:41

28. carlemillward (unregistered)


And... you basically confirming what I said.

GPU performance lies in-between Exynos 5433 and 7420. T880 is 1.8 times faster but Mediatek only uses 4 cores. On top of that Mediatek uses a low bandwidth of RAM which restrains GPU performance.

There is nothing wrong with this chipset. But it is competing with 2015 chipsets like 810 and 7420, not exactly 2016 like Qualcomm 820 and Samsung 8890.

Duh, of course it is more energy efficient, it is a newer GPU.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 07:39

32. marorun (Posts: 3418; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


DDR4 is not low bandwidth ram btw..

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 08:02

37. carlemillward (unregistered)


I was referring to the Helio X20.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 00:38 1

3. vincelongman (Posts: 4240; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Wow that's a quick "leak"

ARM only announced the A35 yesterday

But then again, it could just mean ARM are working with MediaTek behind the scenes

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 00:55 1

4. zeeBomb (Posts: 1962; Member since: 14 Aug 2014)


http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/samsung-unveils-the-latest-application-processor-exynos-8-octa-built-on-14-nanometer-finfet-process-technology/

BEAST in the making.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:29 1

6. Ruturaj (Posts: 1299; Member since: 16 Oct 2014)


I hope they will be using 14nm lpp this time. How many cores of t880 is still a mystery, I guess. 30% improvement over 7420 sounds less, wasn't A72 bigger improvement over A57, assuming custom cores are based on A72.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:39 1

10. johanbiff (Posts: 389; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Samsung usally use MP8 in thier config, so im hoping for nothing less this time around

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:46 1

11. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


I heard it's MP12.

It was MP8 as T760 only supported upto 8 clusters for mobile. T860 and T880 support upto 16.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:55 6

13. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


It's MP12, confirmed:

"To effortlessly power a graphic intensive user interface, immersive 3D gaming and virtual reality experiences the new processor features the Mali-T880 MP12, ARM’s latest graphics processor."

-From sammobile

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 02:14 1

18. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 900; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


WOW!! That's a lot of graphics processing power, but l hope Samsung will make a tablet SoC with T880 MP16 to outpace Apple A10X in the next year.

Mediatek and HiSilicon will be left behind again in GPU race.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 03:01

23. vincelongman (Posts: 4240; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


I didn't believe that at first, but its official
From SamsungExynos's official Twitter
https://twitter.com/SamsungExynos/status/664585940795420672

Also article from AnandTech with some more info
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9781/samsung-announces-exynos-8890-with-cat1213-modem-and-custom-cpu

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 09:45

40. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1515; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Wow! And some people freaking out because Mediatek and Huawei are using Mali T880 MP4... I was excecting 8 cores, but 12? That´s going to be huge.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 07:49

35. johanbiff (Posts: 389; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


DAMN! this thing will kill everything :O

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 02:09

17. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


X30 will be better bcos it cost half price with same performance ;)

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 02:21 1

19. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 900; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)


Same performance? Maybe yes in CPU, but GPU is absolutely always behind the curve.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 04:33

26. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


nobody buys smartphone for kiddy games..

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 07:42

34. marorun (Posts: 3418; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


the GPU in the SD800 can run any games with no lag so there is no need to have 12 core GPU.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:34 1

8. johanbiff (Posts: 389; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


samsung just announced the 8890:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/11/12/samsung-officially-unveils-64-bit-exynos-8-octa-8890-processor/

seems like it will be on-par with the SD820

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:52

12. aesthetics (Posts: 128; Member since: 02 Oct 2014)


T880-mp2, i bet...

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 07:52 1

36. johanbiff (Posts: 389; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


MP12 comfirmed

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 01:59

15. insyt (Posts: 49; Member since: 16 Sep 2015)


2 A35 @ 1ghz
2 A35 @ 1.5ghz
2 A72 @ 2ghz
2 A72 @ 2.5ghz

All on 14nm. That would make one powerful and efficient CPU.

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 02:27

20. hanabi (Posts: 177; Member since: 08 Oct 2015)


I have mediatek chip in my phone. I decided to never trust chines chips

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 04:34

27. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


why is that? I have and no problem whatsoever

posted on 12 Nov 2015, 07:40

33. Cslfiero (Posts: 68; Member since: 29 Jun 2015)


My 2016 chip prediction..
Best performing with installed software: 8890
Best performing overall :a10
Best on power: Helios x30
Best watt to performance ratio: SD820
Best overall: snapdragon
Least impact: kirin 950

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