MediaTek's upcoming Helio X30 chipset will allegedly come with a quad-cluster deca-core CPU

MediaTek's upcoming Helio X30 chipset will allegedly come with a quad-cluster deca-core CPU
MediaTek might have gained recognition at the international level by creating low-cost chipsets for smartphones and tablets, but all signs indicate that the Taiwan-based chip maker has its eyes set at competing in the upper-range mobile SoC categories as well.

The first step that MediaTek took towards the high-end segment of the smartphone market was the Helio X10, a chipset with enough processing prowess to be included in multiple mid-range handsets such as the HTC One M9+ or the Meizu MX5. Back in May, MediaTek unveiled the upper mid-range Helio X20, the world's first mobile SoC with a deca-core CPU. Although chances are that the first mobile devices to make use of the Helio X20 won't reach the market until Q1 2016, a new rumor from China claims that MediaTek has already started working on an even faster chipset, the Helio X30.

According to a new report from the Chinese media, the upcoming Helio X30 will come with notable improvements across the board compared to the Helio X20 SoC.

The Helio X20 chipset integrates a tri-cluster CPU with four ARM Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.4Ghz, four ARM Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 2GHz, and a pair of scorching hot ARM Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2.5Ghz. If this new report is to be believed, the MediaTek Helio X30 will come with an even more fragmented deca-core CPU, a quad-cluster design with two ARM Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1GHz, two Cortex-A53 cores clocked at 1.5Ghz, two Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2GHz and four of those powerful ARM Cortex-A72 cores clocked at 2.5GHz. 

Moving on to the GPU, the Helio X30 is said to feature ARM's Mali-T880 GPU, ARM's fastest mobile GPU architecture at the moment, and a notable improvement over the Mali-T800 GPU that MediaTek will use on the Helio X20. Another rumored detail about the Helio X30 is support for 4GB of LPDDR4 RAM, a feat that was notably missing from the Helio X20.

If these details turn out to be accurate, a hefty improvement in terms of total processing power is to be expected from the Helio X30 compared to the Helio X20.

The report doesn't mention anything about a possible release date for the Helio X30, but it's probably safe to assume that the first Helio X30-powered smartphones won't be launched until early 2016 at the earliest. We'll keep an eye out for more details and get back to you as soon as we stumble across anything of importance on the topic.

source: PadNews via GizChina



1. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

More cores = better performance. Apple's A9 chip will sweep the floor and Samsung's next gen Exynos will make everything underpowered.

2. SuperAndroid507

Posts: 361; Member since: Jan 06, 2014

That doesn't mean more heat also?

14. vincelongman

Posts: 5645; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

If designed/engineered correctly, it could mean less heat If not, well look at the 810 Usually multi core performance scaling decreases as after 4 The 4 A53s for efficiency is excepted The 4 A72s @2.5Ghz and 2 A72s @ 2Ghz, which is pretty insane We should wait for real world usage before jumping to conclusions

29. -SIR-

Posts: 120; Member since: Aug 03, 2015

Why does everyone complain about heat, when majority of average joes don't play games? If heat is a problem, they should start using carbon fibre or aircraft grade aluminium, or 330 grade stainless steel panel. ... I see a lot of people use a cover, so not a big deal. I don't give a jack if it heats up, I would sacrifice power and performance, than standard scrap phones.

32. Subie

Posts: 2321; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

because when computers heat up they either throttle back or shut down for their own protection. but if your willing to "sacrifice power and performance" then........

5. solidsnake695

Posts: 132; Member since: Jan 04, 2013

and u will put A9 in ur ass

9. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Stop sounding like a sour oldman its getting boring. IF and i say IF this mediatek soc as th ability to turn of cluster as needed this will end up as the most optimized Soc for both performance and battery. A9 chip will sweep the floor in single core process as usual but more and more dev are making multi cpu support its in fact the only reason why mobile game dont even use fully most android SOC they are not optimized for it. you may have 8 core but if the app only use 2 you wasting the power of 6 core proof is my SD 400 sonim phone can run any of the new game with no lag and its far from been as fast as newer SOC. Exynos only had 1 success with the latest SOC all past one where Overheating lag frenzy so i would not dream too much if i where you.

12. solidsnake695

Posts: 132; Member since: Jan 04, 2013

mediatek already demoed x20 almost same tech it uses what core is needed for what app its the most power full soc and consumes less battery and produces less heat

15. hound.master

Posts: 1044; Member since: Feb 27, 2015

Yeah but its mediatek if not 16/14 nm manufacturing for this soc it will be the hottest one ever since mediatek use all cores at once.

20. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

1) You have two types of cores, one manufacturing process for them all but four different clock policies. WHERE had you found special optimisation for performance and battery? That's just a marketing desicion for fools that do not understand much in technics. 2) In games you use GPU alot and CPU is almost idling. Also while idling cores use very few power if you didn't know. 3) If you did not use Exynos it's your problem. But use your SD400 device which is definitely not "lag frenzy" so as best performing top SoCs and do not speak about unfamiliar to you things. Also you said earlier that Adreno 430 outperforms Mali T760MP8... Sad but not true. It is 15 - 20% slower, and that was Xiaomi MiPad Pro, the fastest SD810 device.

27. Veteater

Posts: 59; Member since: Aug 04, 2015

The Mali-T760mp8 is about 5-15% faster than the adreno 430, but the adreno 430 sustains and maintains its speed longer, so the Mali GPU is better for short, quick bursts of speed, where the Adreno GPU is better for longer, more consistent bursts of speed.

34. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

At first I did not run any benchmarks of them because they are made for misleading people and promoting one or another SoC. I've asked a Mi Note Pro user to run several games through Gamebench and then compared the results with GS6 ones. And the usual advantage of the latter was about 15 to 20%. Also Adreno 430 throttles pretty fast to 60% of its max speed because it draws 6W with memory and CPU - it is a very high value. Mali from GS6 is more battery friendly (and overheats less) - 4,8W for platform seems to be better.

30. -SIR-

Posts: 120; Member since: Aug 03, 2015

Instead of using 3 segments of CPU architecture, they should deploy 3 settings for users,- like- "standard, power and extreme mode settings. If you want super performance, the 4xA72, clocked at 2.8ghz will always idle at 1.0ghz... Just imagine how fast and fluid you will go through any hard core multitasking you do. Absolute no lags so whatever. Just pure snappy performance.

33. uudruid74

Posts: 17; Member since: Jul 30, 2015

Those cores can go to sleep and wake back fast, very few things you do with you phone will be able to notice. Those high power cores will spend most of their time sleeping, not at 1Ghz. All you need is 200ms response time for most tasks, and that's an eternity. The msp430 can go into deep sleep and wake up between bits coming in the serial port. Its no speed demon, but it barely sips power (its also only 16 bit). Point is, there is no reason to keep cores active all the time with nothing to do. If you have lag problems, then its a software.issue

36. Simona unregistered

all complete bullcrap .. mediatek and kirin - BEST

3. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Its official, Mediatek either lost it or is praying on the ignorance of its buyers.. 4x A72 + 2x A72 + 2x A53 + 2x A53 its just stupid ...

10. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Not really if its well made and each cluster has its own voltage. What killing current soc based on big little tech is thats when its switch from low to high end core the voltage make problems and heat. this is why the SD810 has heat problem in part ( the other is the 20nm process ) and is also why the new Exynos in the S6 has overheating issue ( less because of 14 nm process ) but i had return for this issue at the store i work. IF each cluster as its own voltage independant from the others. And if they can be individually turned off as well. This would end with the most optimized SOC ever for speed , heat and battery usage.

22. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Lol... Do you really think that A57s and A53s in GS6/SD810 device have a shared voltage rail? Dude what are you smoking? But I don't see any reason of why the two different clusters with the SAME A72 cores (OR A53, it doesn't matter) will have different voltages. That can be only if the different manufacturing processes are used for each cluster.

26. ithotarachi

Posts: 7; Member since: May 12, 2015

Dude do you live to bash the s6 ? Your on every article making up lies because it is better than yoyr favorite phone the g4. Get a life.

28. Macready

Posts: 1813; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Bullcr@p. They already have their own voltage rails just like their multi core predecessors the past years. And the SD810 issues are mostly related to the GPU causing overheating, not the 20nm node. The Exynos 5433 runs much cooler at the same 20nm node. Usual S6 FUD is still FUD.

13. Shocky unregistered

Agreed, I just don't see the logic in this design.

31. -SIR-

Posts: 120; Member since: Aug 03, 2015

It's's called smart multitasking.

4. Loveneesh

Posts: 429; Member since: Jul 14, 2015

Mediatek chips are power efficient and gives great performance

16. hound.master

Posts: 1044; Member since: Feb 27, 2015

Yeah keep dreaming.

24. hemedans

Posts: 750; Member since: Jun 01, 2013

There are many 4000mah mediatek smartphone but they get destroyed by sub 3000mah qualcomm smartphone look at gsmarena battery test list and you will see In their top 10 list you will see phone like s6 active, lumia 1520, xperia z3c etc no mediatek phone

6. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Given sufficient Linux support, that X30 could power a full-blown desktop environment with the six Cortex-A72 @2Ghz+. I would definitely buy a Chromebook or a Linux-based netbook with that SOC if its not too skimpy on the speed of RAM and the SSD.

17. hound.master

Posts: 1044; Member since: Feb 27, 2015

Yeah except that it can't run s**t it's arm based not 86x/64x.

7. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

They should have made a simple chip with A72 x 4 + A53 x 4.

35. Shocky unregistered

Or A72 x 2 + A53 x4 Couple that with a strong GPU and you have a great SoC.

8. Bm888

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 06, 2015

if x20 hits 85000 on antuntu, x30 95-100k maybe? a beast? wonder what Samsung is planning on mongoose to counter this :P

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