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Apple iPhone 5 to connect to 4G via HSPA+ says China Unicom

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Apple iPhone 5 to connect to 4G via HSPA+ says China Unicom
The fifth generation of the Apple iPhone will offer 4G connectivity through an HSPA+ network with speeds as high as 21Mbps. This is according to a slide presented by China Unicom at MacWorld Asia. A picture of the slide was obtained by Macotakara and shows the history of Apple's iconic touchscreen phone from the original launched in 2007 to the new model expected to launch next month.

The slide has a blank where a photograph of the new Apple iPhone would go. The only details about the new phone is that it will run over HSPA+ pipelines. Those networks have a theoretical maximum download speed of 21Mbps which allow carriers to call it a 4G network. Inside GSM versions of the iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 3 is a WCDMA radio that provided maximum speeds of 7.2Mbps while the original Apple iPhone ran on a 480Kbps EDGE network.

In the States, AT&T and T-Mobile offer HSPA+ service, but of the two, only the former is an Apple iPhone vendor. Verizon, the other carrier to offer the phone in the U.S., uses LTE technology for 4G. Back in April, Tim Cook-then Apple's COO-said that while the company has explored using the technology, there was no rush to add LTE connectivity to its products.

source: Macotakara (translated) via AppleInsider

This slide, presented by China Unicom, shows HSPA+ connectivity for the next Apple iPhone

This slide, presented by China Unicom, shows HSPA+ connectivity for the next Apple iPhone


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posted on 29 Sep 2011, 12:57 9

1. N.Reynolds (Posts: 257; Member since: 15 Feb 2011)


Except HSPA+ isn't truly 4G...

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:37 4

8. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)


Thanks, now I don't have to point that out.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:38 9

9. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


except.. your wrong, it is. They changed the definitions a good while ago. Under the old rules 4G doesnt exist yet on a carrier. Under the new rules anything that can go (i think its) 12mb/s or higher can be concidered 4g.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:55 4

14. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


wow remixfa? no hating?

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 15:23 4

36. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


hate to tell you but i am (mostly) impartial. you see what you want to see, but i defend all sides from inaccuracies. i even defend taco on those rare instances he is right.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:05 7

18. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Yes the rules have been changed for almost a year now. WiMAX, HSPA+ & LTE are ALL 4G. That should be common knowledge by now!

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:16 4

23. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


I guess 3.9G is a little difficult to market.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:32 3

27. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Well if it meets the new standard then it's 4G. WiMAX, HSPA+ & LTE meet that standard so 3.9G really makes no sense. If it meets the new 4G standard then guess what....... it's 4G!
Don't know how else to say it.
Again it's not me that said this it's the International Telecommunication Union that said this in December of 2010 in Geneva.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 15:03 2

31. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


So basically the "old" 4G standard will be redefined as 5G.

Which is where I feel Verizon played it right, because their 4G LTE network will be much smoother to upgrade to 5G LTE Advanced.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 15:22 4

34. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


No 4G includes WiMAX, HSPA+, & LTE. All the way up to WiMAX 2 & LTE Advanced which both can reach up to 100 Mbps or more. We are nowhere near 5G, by then you will be talking about Nanotechnology, Cloud Computing & All IP Platform. They call it 5G NanoCore. That is way in the future. First let's enjoy 4G first.

Here is a link:
http://learntelecom.com/telephony/5g/what-is-the-need-for-5g-technology

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 15:37

41. roldefol (Posts: 4327; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)


That doesn't make sense to me, especially from a marketing standpoint. I can accept that the step up from 1 Mbps 3G to 10 Mbps can be called 4G. A tenfold increased qualifies as next-generation to me. But when we move from 10 Mbps 4G to 100 Mbps, what will they call it? "Faster 4G"?

It's tricky, because the technology involved in LTE and LTE-Advanced will be the same "generation", but I can't imagine the marketing departments are going to accept it. And let's face it, marketing rules.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 16:09 3

45. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


4G+ is the term. :)

its no different than when GSM 3g went from 1.5mbs to 7.2mbs. It was still "3G" and that was over a 600% increase.

posted on 30 Sep 2011, 06:05

59. nofan (unregistered)


"we are nowhere near 5G" ?? Yeah until they change the definition again. lol

posted on 30 Sep 2011, 08:18

61. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


they didnt change the definition, they changed the threshold. the "4G" technologies are still the same, they just lowered the bar from 100mbs to 12 mbs. LTE, HSPA+, and Wimax were 4G techs before and after the change.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:23

24. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Doesn't matter when you are churning the market in advance of the release of the new iPhone....

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:32 1

26. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


I think the real let-down will be if Apple doesn't release an iPhone 5 at their presser....

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:01 5

2. dacastrator (Posts: 232; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


yeah right but at least iPhone will now experience faster data speeds.. alright android.. let's bring 5G.. =)

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 16:28 1

47. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


Yea At&t will say they have only 4g iphone but verizon will have a lte prime

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:06 3

3. BarneyDroid (Posts: 35; Member since: 01 Sep 2011)


It would be suicide for Apple to not run LTE in the iPhone 5.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:19 6

6. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


iPhone outsells all LTE phones on VZW combined so no it's not suicide. If it supports hspa+, which I believe it will that will be more than enough. Remember it's a world phone and hspa is widely available while LTE is not.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:39 6

10. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


valid point by taco.

one day he may actually give credit when people agree with him, instead of pretending that never happened, so he can continue to call people one sided.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:00 3

16. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


remixfa account must be hacked. HE is being way to nice.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 15:25 1

37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, your just finally noticing because im defending apple and such at the moment. if i were defending android with the same subject, you would be calling me a fandroid. your perception has changed, my arguements have not. i defend anything i think is accurate and go after anything i think is innacurate.. period.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:55 1

30. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


I did give you credit for agreeing with me a few articles back. You have been a little more fair handed, but still overall very biased when it comes to Apple and T Mobile

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 15:26 1

38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


no, you just dont like my opinions because they dont agree with your bias.. lol.

link me to this article where you credit me for agreeing with you.. ive been waiting for months to see that.. lol

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 13:58 3

15. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


Taco FTW. Also if the iPhone got 4G it would be more like a homicide.
Shots fired Android Down. lol

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 17:25 1

51. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Ha ha iKing it would be a homicide. Steve Jobs would be tried for murder.

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:06 1

20. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4857; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)


Hey when taco50 is right, he is right. There is nothing wrong with what taco50 just said!

posted on 30 Sep 2011, 00:43

57. jacko (unregistered)


maybe but android been outselling apple the world over

..... waiting for come back

posted on 29 Sep 2011, 14:02 1

17. simplyj (Posts: 404; Member since: 23 Dec 2009)


All people care about is 4G, not LTE or WiMax. So as long there is "4g" in the names or specs, people will go mad for it.

Besides LTE and WiMax are battery killers.

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