Apple: Carrier IQ isn't supported in iOS 5, still on iPhone 4
1. RazaAsad (Posts: 100; Member since: 24 Nov 2011)
Forwarding one's info to 3rd party even possibly all of the keystrokes - that's so unethical.
What about the passwords and even credit card information?
As far as signing the contract is concerned, most of us just go for "I've read the agreement and I agree".
Well, I do not mind technology as long as it is not gonna infringe my privacy.
17. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)
Apple, Google and Rim have all said that they had no tracking software. Then it was shown they did. They all then back peddled saying that it was just for understanding their clientele. Now they say they are removing all said software.
Basically, we all have been lied to repeatedly, by all programmers, manufacturers and providers. Yet, we gobble it up. Sadly, in the end it is us that are fools.. we will buy another phone and click the "i agree button" when activating and fur every app.
When its a perfect world, I'll make an application to inform you all.
2. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
the implications for this are mind boggling. without a clear consent form (which if there was we would have known about this eons ago) people had no idea they were being tracked. So not only was apple tracking your every move, so was carrierIQ. Nice. So if you happen to work in a secure area and forgot to remove your phone, they could get a layout of the place by tracking your movements. Lots of reasons this is bad news.
I hope the carriers and apple get the crap sued out of them.
3. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
Shut it. You just hate Apple.
People should only comment if you have something to contribute to the story. This is deep than Apple. Get over your self Remixfa
SN: I dont care if im being tracked. If you are not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about.
4. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
notice how i said "carriers and apple". maybe u should read.
7. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
You are the Troll. You Troll EVERY Apple post with nothing intelligent to say. If im tired of your crap I know more people must be as well.
The IQ crap was found with the HTC (not saying its their fault because i know remixfag would jump on that)
I know More people are to blame but this troll got me tight.
Ok im back now. : )
9. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
He clearly included the carriers as well as Apple in his original statement... I don't know why you got your panties in a bunch.
Remix.. if you say anything all of these Apple dudes just come out of the woodwork. Change your username please. ;)
10. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
what fun would that be, iam :) its not my fault they cant read.. lol
if he had read and thought about it for 2 seconds, he might have realized that all carriers includes my own employer.. but hey, i doubt the thinking went any deeper than "its remixfa, we must blind attack!"
26. rcrider4 (Posts: 118; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)
Right now, you are the one with nothing intelligent being said. He said exactly what he should have said. They should be sued if they don't remove thus software (or just sued anyway). He didn't mention android because this article isn't about android.
19. geedup (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Carriers Apple AND Google and Rim. You left that out. Apple did let users opt out. Google did not.
22. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
google does not dictate what goes on their phones, they only give away the OS to manufacturers and to carriers. Like I said, when a NEXUS.. which is the only phone google directly controls... has this on it, then I will happily include google in the "they need to be sued" section.
Also, there was no "opt out" of it. Its not in the privacy writing of the "opt in check marks" specifically for this app. NO ONE knew it was there until that dude found it. Google also has more opt outs than apple has ever had, which is why Apple had a tracking scandal, and google did not.
Apple has authoritarian control over their devices. Carriers have no say. Google takes no control over anything thats not a nexus, carriers have ultimate final say even over manufacturers (which i think is stupid anyways).
So the phrasing "Apple and the Carriers" was not only unbiased, it was correct.
24. geedup (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Please read up on Google. They have been in trouble plenty of times for collecting information. Also read up on this. Apple did provide an opt out. You're talking out your ass. Also why are you not including Samsung, HTC, Rim etc in your list of people you want to see sued?
12. monkeyfeet (Posts: 32; Member since: 27 Jan 2011)
"I dont care if im being tracked. If you are not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about." - This is what's wrong with society.
14. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
Yes, and no.
To be honest I don't mind the idea of being tracked. If me being tracked means that more people who are doing stupid s**t are being caught, then i'm not opposed.
I do agree with you that we walk a fine line between stuff like this "protecting us" and being just plain invasive, but I don't think this is necessarily what's wrong with society.
13. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
BTW, there is such a thing called privacy. you may like being tracked, but its not about doing right or wrong, its abuot the right to privacy.
5. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)
For those that dont know whats going on.
15. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)
I'm curious. Normally you're a reasonable guy who remains pretty calm in the face of contentious discussions. What happened here?
For the record, even though CIQ is found on pretty much every phone sold by 3 out of the 4 carriers, it does say something that Apple, which has made the carriers its bitches, and which could dictate pretty much any terms it wants regarding software on iPhones, allowed CIQ to be installed.
My annoyance is still primarily directed at the carriers themselves, as they installed this software, kept it secret, and didn't give anyone a choice as to whether they wanted it.
I don't view this to be a privacy violation in the same way that, say, Facebook's multiple f**kups have occurred. However, I would have liked to know about this software beforehand.
18. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
maybe its because since taco is on another forced vacation he feels that im not being blind auto attacked enough. who knows.
28. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
its only like his 5th or 6th fake account since being banned the other day. just keep reporting him and they will keep banning the new names. one day the troll will get the hint. if he hasnt earned a true permaban, he should with all these alt-name antics.
6. QuickeS1lver (Posts: 3; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
hey remixfa did you read how this is mostly an ANDROID issue.....was only ever supported on iPhone4 and isn't even running any longer with the new OS 5 update.....
11. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yes, it is mostly an android issue. but its not google thats putting it on there. its the manufacturers and especially the carriers as part of their bloatware suites. Apple, however retains direct control over their devices so if its on Apple, then its because apple allowed it.
When you find this on a Nexus device out of the box, then I will include google in my "i hope they get sued" statement. Until then, I hope the people responcible... AKA APPLE AND THE CARRIERS get their pants sued off.
you guys really need to think before you blind attack me. OI.. lol
20. geedup (banned) (Posts: 74; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Are you seriously leaving Google out of the equation? All android phones have this also. I can't understand how you can say carriers and Apple and leave android out??? This is on every android phone. Apple let you opt out. Android didn't.
Anyway if you carrier a smartphone and think you're not tracked that's being naive. Remix you may be the most biased poster on this site.
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
yes. try reading responses and thinking about them before blind posting.
16. BReND0 (Posts: 74; Member since: 07 Dec 2010)
Honestly you and Iking are retarded in regards to this CarrierIQ issue..... the article states that it was used on iphone 4 and well is present in ios 5 but no longer collects data.....?
you believe all that crap , cmon man.........
they too were caught and wanna come out looking like the good guy, i bet they still collect data or were .........they just want the one up on android.....say theyre gonna fix it, but i doubt it......
Carrier iq or not,, data , texts and calls were always stored on servers by major carriers regardless, and both Apple and Android, knew where you were what you do
29. roscuthiii (Posts: 2217; Member since: 18 Jul 2010)
"Carrier IQ isn't supported in iOS 5, still on iPhone 4"
Read: We've switched to proprietary software you're less likely to find buried in our code than a 3rd party add on.