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Windows 9 RTM in October seems too good to believe

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Windows 9 RTM in October seems too good to believe
Last week, we heard a rumor from Microsoft newsie Paul Thurrott that Windows 9 would be making its way to market in April 2015, which seems like a pretty tight schedule given that Microsoft also reportedly hasn't even begun coding of the update. Amazingly, when Thurrott's report came out, a well-known Microsoft leaker made an even more bold claim that the Windows 9 RTM (release to manufacturing) would hit on October 21st of this year.

The tweet was simple from WZor, reading: "Win 9 released in April 2015? No! No! No! ..WIN RTM-0 RELEASED SIGN-OFF DEALINE IN 21 OCTOBER 2014 :)" The idea seems pretty crazy, and there have been plenty of reporters who find it impossible to believe including The Verge's Tom Warren who called the idea "bullshit". And, frankly we do find it hard to believe, especially since Windows 8.1 update 1 is in the works for this spring, and as mentioned before, reports claim that Microsoft hasn't even begun coding for Windows 9. 

On the other hand, it seems as though even Microsoft employees are starting to say that Windows 8 has been something of a failure in the market, so maybe the company wants to move past it as fast as possible. We don't know the truth, but if we had to guess, we certainly wouldn't be expecting Windows 9 this year. Either way, the real info should be coming at Microsoft's BUILD conference in April.

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posted on 22 Jan 2014, 09:54 2

1. Finalflash (Posts: 1461; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Well they did release 7 way too late after the Vista disaster. Maybe they learned this time and will push to release a more up to date version of Windows 7 to fix the current 8 mess. This will once again make us all forget that we really are paying for the same crap again and again after they shaft us in between with something new but retarded.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 13:49

18. garlic456 (Posts: 150; Member since: 24 Dec 2012)


Win Xp : good
Wİn Vista : Bad
Wİn 7 : Good
Win 8 : Bad

Windows 9 must be good

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 19:57 1

30. nlbates66 (Posts: 278; Member since: 15 Aug 2012)


meh, me and my family used Vista until Windows 8 came out :)

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 21:00 1

32. mikeguy1981 (Posts: 54; Member since: 23 Jun 2012)


i couldnt agree with you more garlic456. you are totally right. I tried using windows 8 and I was like what is this crap. I use windows 7 and love it.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 14:35

20. sgtdisturbed47 (Posts: 164; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)


I still highly doubt they would release a new, major build not even 2 years after they came out with 8. 8 does suck, and they know it, but a major release likely won't happen for another 2 years.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 19:34

27. PBXtech (Posts: 966; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/history#T1=era9

Not necessarily, some versions are released sooner than others depending on the needs at that time. If 8 doesn't take off soon, a completely new 9 wouldn't surprise me.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 09:56 5

2. android_hitman (Posts: 591; Member since: 07 Jul 2010)


idc, Win8.1 is perfect for my needs.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 09:58 3

3. WHoyton1 (Posts: 1619; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


thats like saying, don't technologically progress because i already like the original

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 10:18 4

5. elitewolverine (Posts: 1196; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


nothing that i do on my pc now was hindered by windows 8 and the previews, nor win8 full, or 8.1.

There is this tile called desktop, and sorry when i am building a 3d model i do not care to look at the start menu all day. Talking about the old start menu.

If anything win 8 made things faster for my uses.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 14:41 2

21. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


Still using Windows 7 here. I haven't felt the need to upgrade.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 20:54

31. nothingmuch (Posts: 155; Member since: 03 May 2013)


Actually some have moved back to Win7 from 8

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 10:01 1

4. Killertech2099 (Posts: 138; Member since: 28 Sep 2013)


I take that update 9 like a grain of salt

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 10:43

6. N-fanboy (Posts: 529; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)


I don't know much about coding... But don't all windows operating systems have the same base... If so why would it take that long to build W9?

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 13:25 2

17. elitewolverine (Posts: 1196; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


i would ask that of any os maker, how long did kitkat take? How about Lime?

Code is the same, but when you do extensions of code by adding things, you need to make sure nothing breaks. There is billions of lines of code. Just ask droid what disaster droid 3.xx was like for tablets.

Also the win8 code is very different than win7 code.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 17:48

24. joey_sfb (Posts: 2577; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


What made droid 3.xx a disaster? Its Google first attempt to bring android into a tablet form factor into a world filled with only iPad.

My Motorola Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 quickly move from honeycomb to ice cream sandwich to jelly bean in less than 12 months.

Win 8 kernel is also NT kernel with much improvement.
I don't like their windows 8 interface so i revert back to Windows 7.No lost there 7 still good for my purpose.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 10:44

7. N-fanboy (Posts: 529; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)


I don't know much about coding... But don't all windows operating systems have the same base... If so why would it take that long to build W9?

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 10:45

8. N-fanboy (Posts: 529; Member since: 12 Jan 2013)


I don't know much about coding... But don't all windows operating systems have the same base... If so why would it take that long to build W9?

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 11:07 2

9. AfterShock (Posts: 2182; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)


It's kind of obvious, their current work is not enticing many, but low end users.

They shook off wm pretty easy, if they shake that GUI again things could turn around.

I have high doubt's of that, ms still thinks they decided what we want, when in reality they are in their own distortion field.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 11:26

10. domfonusr (Posts: 288; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)


They could pull of keeping Metro UI, but they need to fix the settings options first - they need to have an easy way to get to the settings, which ought to be well organized, and not buried under an unlabeled tile or in some unfindable layer of a menu system. If they can do that, at least they will have made the system more user friendly. I know some people hate the Metro UI, but Microsoft is really making that a signature part of their OS, so I doubt they will shake it off. I sure hope they fix the settings, though.

If they release Windows 9 as early as October, then I would expect it to be garbage. That's just way too quick to make any verifiably appreciable changes if coding has not yet even begun. They need to make sure they get it right, and that means taking more time to do it right, and then test it to verify. April of 2015 sounds at least a little more reasonable.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 13:21 1

15. elitewolverine (Posts: 1196; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


The settings are now a right click away. Simply move your mouse to the start icon while in desktop mode. the old start button. Right click and bam

All your settings for your pc are ther, from control panel, to network, to command line and command admin, to run, shut down. It is all there. It is 'burried' in a sense that crtl+shift+esc burries the task manager...imo that is.

I enjoy this right click setup tons better.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 17:04

23. domfonusr (Posts: 288; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)


I'll have to ask my dad about that. Maybe this would help him with his PC repair business.

posted on 23 Jan 2014, 10:57

38. domfonusr (Posts: 288; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)


Actually, I did ask about this - you are right that they have made it so that a right click on the new start button/Windows logo in desktop mode will bring up settings, but my dad still complains that it is not natural or intuitive... the average user that he talks with doesn't have a clue how to find it until he tells them what to look for and what to do, as it is just not a typical operation for someone who has come from Windows XP or 7 to 8.1. However, he did note that if you just start typing "control panel" while in the start screen, you will get a list containing the link to the settings and such. You can just start typing anything you want to find while in the start screen, and it will give you a list of the top matches, so that, he said, has been the most helpful way for himself, and to instruct his clients, how to find things that are not on the tiles themselves.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 11:27 1

11. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1023; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)


I have been using Windows 8 since it first came out. Windows 8.1 however really cleaned up many of Windows 8's flaws and I like it and wont go back to Windows 7. However there are millions of People who still do not have or cannot afford or even do not want a touch screen monitor which is the best interface device for Windows 8.1. In light of these facts I think it is
a must that Microsoft make a version of Windows 9 that work like and looks like Windows 7.
this is easy to do because all Microsoft has to do is add a few new features to the present version of Windows 7 and sell to it's OEM partners and Private citizens as "Windows 9D"
"Windows 9D" could come to the Market place as fast as a flash. Windows 8.1 would be improved and come to the Market place as "Windows 9" and come to the market at a later date and be Windows Touch screen devices OS. The Addition of the improved Windows 7 as "Windows 9D" would end a lot of complaints and fears People have about Windows 8.1. The millions of current "XP" users who have to convert would buy it and Microsoft will
make hundreds of Millions of Dollars in sales of "Windows 9D" in a few months. Myself and other Folks have urged Microsoft to do this but there is no indication that they will. Microsoft
I hope will be swift to UNDERSTAND! that their hybrid Windows 8.1 OS is not for everyone
and that it is best used on touch screen devices like Tablets and computers sold with a touch screen as a package or laptops that have a touch screen. There is room in world for Touch screen and Older mouse and keyboard computers interface computers.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 11:34

12. domfonusr (Posts: 288; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)


Windows 8.1 sort of has that now. Its called "desktop mode". Yes, there are some people who find their "desktop mode" to be incomplete, but like you say, a little improvement there could go a long way.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 17:58

25. joey_sfb (Posts: 2577; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Microsoft should give people a choice during installation and a quick mean to revert Windows original desktop.

Why is it so hard for them to listen nor care which mode their user prefer.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 11:48

13. papss (unregistered)


I have W7 on one device and W8 on the other. I like both but prefer 8 now. Nobody does software like m$ so I have little doubt that it will be great.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 11:59

14. PBXtech (Posts: 966; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


I don't care when, I'm more concerned about what, as in what will W9 be like? Will it be more like 7 or will they continue to push 8 at people?

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 13:23

16. elitewolverine (Posts: 1196; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


More like 8 with probably more customization to make it how you wish. MS wants one OS feel for all devices.

PC's are not the number one electronics anymore, phones and tablets are, as a result if MS does not provide a tablet os, they will be behind like they already are.

Do you own a droid or ios phone/tablet device? if so, did they push that out dated icon non user friendly (imo), without support for x86 apps on you?

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 14:21

19. PBXtech (Posts: 966; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


If that's the case, it works for me. Give me complete freedom to set it up as I see the need to.

Icons aren't out dated. Just because tiles are new doesn't mean we should abandon something as useful as icons. Some things will remain as integral components for decades to come. In comparison, cars have evolved immensely but at the end of the day, a wheel is still round and widely accepted. Some things still retain their usefulness, regardless of age. Icons are like that.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 14:50

22. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


It comes done to user preference. I like the icon setup better. I think the tile setup makes the screen look cluttered.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 19:44

28. PBXtech (Posts: 966; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


Too cluttered and too space absorbing. I have all my most used programs (yes, programs, not apps) on my desktop around the edges. Nothing is in the center of my screen except wallpapers. The desktop mode in 8 is an improvement, but the Start "apps" screen drives me nuts because it's so cluttered and chaotic looking.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 21:55

35. Dastrix (Posts: 570; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


There are rumors that a new Windows UI is in the works. Something more closely related to Android's UI than the current Modern UI.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 18:18

26. kaikuheadhunterz (Posts: 686; Member since: 18 Jul 2013)


Even if Windows 9 does come out this year, it will take a few more years for everyone to completely adopt it

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 19:48

29. lukasound (Posts: 150; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


There's an easy fix to Win8. It's called StartIsBack and it restores all of Win7 start button functionality and then some.
Without it, I would be very frustrated with Win8.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 21:29

33. crazymonkey05 (Posts: 120; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)


i think they should give users the choice between aero or metro either on startup or install. so that people will get what they love......but my main concern is not with looks but the incredibly close deadline of the release of 9....... we have seen how well the release of the xbox one went.....its got a insane amount of bugs.....so if M$ cant get their sh*t together and get a good release then i dont know about the popularity......they also need to offer better legacy support for older applications because 8´s support its crap.....just ask any body on the Sony Ericsson Xperia Play XDA forum.

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 21:33 1

34. REXTECH (Posts: 15; Member since: 04 Dec 2013)


I love my windows 8.1 . where is that people don't like it?

posted on 22 Jan 2014, 22:00

36. Dastrix (Posts: 570; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)


It's just personal preference, I guess. I wish I had Windows 8, but I'm still using my 4 year old Dell XPS running Windows 7. It's an awesome gaming rig. Haven't had any problems with it so far, so I don't really feel the urge to upgrade yet. I'm thinking of getting a Windows 8 tablet though to go along with my Lumia 920.

posted on 23 Jan 2014, 02:11

37. DimitriTech (Posts: 22; Member since: 04 Nov 2013)


I personally never use the start menu on windows 8. but i like the look of the desktop.. nice and clean. and glad they brought back the start button to the desktop in 8.1. Maybe i like it since the last os i used was xp? idc.. i like it.

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