The world's most and least compact flagships relative to their screen size
1. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1792; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
@66.71% screen to body ratio for HTC One M8. I am happy with that. Bc even with thick bezel on top and bottom, those BoomSound Speakers are just pure awesome :D I would like a Z2 as well... but who knows when it's even coming out.... or will it even be on AT&T at all...
17. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
that sharp phone looks really sexy like sonyz but sony has more bezels
resembles like l925 k800 opp7 zte they have sharp smooth edges
26. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1792; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Now I want the Sharp Acquos Xx 302Sh. That phone is really nice in terms of spec and look combine :P I'm just disappointed that it only has 2,600mAh. But it might have really good battery management system build in
35. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)
didnt this article just proof that sony doesnt have not as much bezel compared to other phones?
its right behind s5! no one ever said s5 has bezels?
trolls! you arent even doing your job correctly anymore. find better reasons to dismiss sony
37. mr.techdude (Posts: 568; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
Nobody even talked about the s5 cause no one cares about it, maybe that's why.
51. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
i only care cause samsung makes great spec phones, but cheap plastic totally ruins the phone
94. amasog (Posts: 263; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)
specs...specs...specs... all that a gullible fandroid wants is..SPECS!! LOL!
53. phljcnth (Posts: 424; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
You just did bro. You care, maybe that's why.
42. UglyFrank (Posts: 976; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
They are talking about the massive bezels above and below the screen on the Xperia, the S5 has hardware buttons so the ratio isn't as bad.
56. fireblade (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
OMG, S5 has bezel as much as Z2. Samsung = fail.
71. MrTzr (unregistered)
But the S5 uses capacitive buttons so Samsung doesn't ruin screen-space. That's a win for the S5.
43. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1792; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Sony's phones seem to have more bezel bc they are skinny. So length of bezel is longer. However, phone like S5 is wider, so bezel length is shorter. I have no problem with bezel on Sony's phone. Give my thumb some room to hold the phone firmly and still have that 3,200 mAh battery in Z2 :P
88. robcar (Posts: 82; Member since: 18 Jan 2011)
Samsung have curved corners och backside which look more bezel-less and feels smaller in hand. That's why, it's not even hard to imagine.
So it's illegal to not like Sony phones? You are the biggest fanboy then...
33. akki20892 (Posts: 3776; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Mother of no bezel phone. That's my nexus
49. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
WAY TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THIS PHONE IS PURE CONCEPT
LOVE THOSE SHARP EDGES, JUST LIKE SONY Z DESIGN
66. Humphrey.One (Posts: 23; Member since: 14 Nov 2013)
I think it'd use some speaker, you know phones make calls.
75. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 1865; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
That could be solved the way Sharp solved it. But what about front facing cam, lightsensors.
44. Ashoaib (Posts: 2715; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Pentach vega iron is a very manly phone, why its not available internationally? Sharp aquos is also very elegant...
iphone is at the last? OMG..... iphone is behind everyone in most features except few tricks in the sleeves, still apple is making huge money with least specs thanks to ifo0ls... nokia n sony are as I was expecting... chinese are doing good job from couple of years
52. downphoenix (Posts: 2689; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
I dont understand how they come up with the numbers honestly. Because the actual surface of the device that is screen vs not screen is higher than what these percentages indicate. Anyone know how they come up with these figures?
79. buccob (Posts: 1962; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
I made an excel sheet with the proper calculations to corroborate PA numbers and they get pretty close...
The thing is that I also used an additional formula to correct the round corners on certain phones... for example the iPhone tend to have 10mm radius corners... while Sony's have a sharper corner of around 5mm thus making them seem like they have more bezels...
SCREEN AREA = height * width
height = Screen Diagonal * (height of aspect ratio / hypotenuse)
width = Screen Diagonal * (width of aspect ratio / hypotenuse)
PHONE AREA = phone height * phone width
And the preliminary solution is simply = 100 * (SCREEN AREA / PHONE AREA)
For my corrected solution I also take into account the corners and subtract the outside of the round radius...
So example with numbers: (I will do it in Imperial system for my fellows american in PA which are most people anyway)
Screen Diag = 4,7"
Aspect Ratio = 16:9 -> Hypotenuse=18,3576
Screen Height = 4.1"
Screen Width = 2.3"
Screen Area = 9.44"
Phone Width = 2.64"
Phone Height = 5.44"
Phone Area = 14.36"
Preliminary Screen to Size Ratio = 9.44/14.36 = 0.657 *100 = 65.7%
Final ratio with Correction for radius = 66,43%
60. AbhiD (Posts: 65; Member since: 06 Apr 2012)
And for god's sake just look at Size of ONE! It's as big as Z2 and even much more thicker with weaker internals than Z2! Z2 got bigger screen, inbuilt noise cancellation, bigger battery, more ram, much bigger camera, waterproof/dustproof certification, glass on both sides and still measures same and thinner than Htc ONE!
For me ONE is an absolute failure on design side!
And for those who say one has front speakers- z2 has as powerful front facing speakers as Htc one
2. hmd74 (Posts: 442; Member since: 31 Jan 2013)
m8 > m7 ???
maybe yes but because of the on screen buttons and that logo it's not useful :/
65. MobileGuru (Posts: 82; Member since: 18 Jan 2014)
HTC rep commented that there's a lot of circuitry going underneath the HTC bezel so there's that..
80. Taters (Posts: 4355; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
It's pure hogwash what the rep said. If other companies don't need that space, then HTC is either A have s**tty engineers or B them needing the Extra space is hogwash or C they have some crap useless circuitry that has no business being there in the first place.
I think it's probably all 3 but mostly A and B.
96. amats69 (Posts: 1224; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Or D mr Taters is HTC's number 1 hater...lol
3. superkuiken (Posts: 70; Member since: 24 Mar 2013)
What was the Sony Xperia ZL again? Just for comparing. And the IPhone 5(s)?
4. Chris.P (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
ZL sits at 74.99%. You can check the 5s' score at the end of the slideshow.
9. Duketytz (Posts: 534; Member since: 28 Nov 2013)
Actually I think it might be 75.84%
11. pwnarena (Posts: 1032; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
why argue over those at the 75% level when there's one that has 80%+ and it's even water-resistant.
sharp aquos 320sh
20. buccob (Posts: 1962; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
What about the Z1 Compact... it is as much flagship as a the Z1
29. Chris.P (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
After the phablet-centric chart next week, we might do a 'compact', or 'mini' if you will, section the week after that.
The differences in the exact % are, as noted, caused by the fact that we use the advertised screen sizes. However, for example, the Nexus 5 isn't exactly 5'', it's 4.96'' or so. Works the other way around, too.
31. tech2 (Posts: 2910; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Do you subtract the curved corners into the equation i.e. If GS5 is more rounded on the edges and Z2 (if they both had the same size) isn't would that affect the ratio ?
Or you just apply this formula:
(Length+breath)/Display size ?
61. hmmm... (Posts: 65; Member since: 05 Jun 2013)
Acquos? Is that an unreleased phone?
Aquos is the phone produced by Sharp AFAIK.
45. Ashoaib (Posts: 2715; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
towards the end but that end supplement boom sound speakers which I think are great... if huge bezels are due to speakers then I will say it worths...
54. vincelongman (Posts: 2529; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
It's not due to the speakers
If you see a teardown the speakers quite small
Its because the HTC/their display maker were unable to design a better screen connector
That is why there large bezel above the bottom speaker (with their logo), to fit the poorly designed display connector
6. pwnarena (Posts: 1032; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
why do sites keep ignoring the sharp aquos sh320? it stands at around 80% screen to body size ratio.
http:/ /www.youtube. com/watch?v=2pdupsHHgNY
http://www. eprice.com .tw/mobile/talk/103/4893444/1/
you're not saying that it has to be popular or internationally available.
12. Chris.P (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
"For this pick, we set out to measure the screen-to-body ratio of pretty much every flagship we could think of"
"we could think of"
Regardless, I'm adding the Sharp now, so that it can claim the #1 spot just as it deserves!
25. pwnarena (Posts: 1032; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
oh sorry. sharp's really not that popular although i've seen it making rounds in a number of sites.
78. hung2900 (Posts: 873; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
Note 4 also. Z3 is included.
Or they just don't think Note series are smartphone
16. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1792; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
I don't think you can get that phone anywhere outside of Japan, can you? I would like to see it in person @.@
Pretty nice spec but for phone that thick, I was hoping to see at least 3,200mAh of battery instead of 2,600mAh
27. pwnarena (Posts: 1032; Member since: 15 Feb 2013)
looks thick because it's short but it's not significantl thicker than the 9+ mm htc one.
30. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1792; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Ahh that would make sense :P illusion haha
10. Jason2k13 (Posts: 782; Member since: 28 Mar 2013)
mistake in the picture, no. 11 is supposed to be Z2 not Z1.
15. cmatej000 (Posts: 13; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)
im also wondering what is the difference between 11 and 16??
18. cmatej000 (Posts: 13; Member since: 22 Jan 2013)
lol theyve updated the post and now all the numbers are different. Im just talking about sony
13. loveHEAVYMETAL (unregistered)
no pantech vega iron? its has highest screen to body ratio,the side bezel only 2.2mm(no inner black bezel)
also g pro 2 which has 77% screen to body ratio not in the chart?
14. Chris.P (Posts: 381; Member since: 27 Jun 2013)
A separate, phablet-centric chart like this coming up next week. :)
21. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
well atleast Chris P relies back to posts, unlike Ray S MAXWELL R
ALANF and the rest dont never reply nor make any posts or what there views are, its good to join in conversataion
Michael H replies back to whenever you ask him anything