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Verizon sales of the Apple iPhone 4 are slowing says Goldman Sachs analyst

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Verizon sales of the Apple iPhone 4 are slowing says Goldman Sachs analyst
Bloomberg was told by Goldman Sachs analyst Jason Armstrong that Verizon will most likely see a slight drop off in Apple iPhone 4 sales in Q2 from Q1 despite having an extra month of selling time in the second period. Verizon started offering Apple's touchscreen handset in the second month of the first quarter and racked up sales of 2.2 million units of the device. Armstrong expects Big Red to have sold just a touch under that 2.2 million sales figure for Q2.

Although you might think that Big Red would sell more Apple iPhone 4 units with a full 3 month quarter to work with, heavy anticipation of the launch of the iPhone by Verizon customers led to a surge in demand once the phone was launched on February 3rd. And while we are loath to report something that might set off the fanboy wars once again, the analyst recently sat in on a meeting with Verizon's investor relations personnel and was told that the rest of Verizon's smartphone line up exceeded expectations in the second quarter.

source: Bloomberg via BGR

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posted on 30 Jun 2011, 16:33 6

1. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


I like how articles here now refer to the Fanboy wars in the comments. :)

The dropoff is expected; not only is LTE picking up speed, but the iPhone 5 is supposed to be only a couple of months away.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 16:42 5

2. alecgale (Posts: 55; Member since: 29 Jun 2011)


the iphone 5 is just a myth like the droid bionic

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 17:28 3

4. jroc74 (Posts: 4974; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


lol! I had to thumb this up for making me laugh...

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 04:30 3

41. Timmay! (unregistered)


I don't give a crap. Crapple is too busy suing everyone from fan boys to samsung and secretly working on their iphone 20gs with super led retina+ display and 18megapixel dual cameras that can be used with facetime, but only if your connected to wifi on a t3+ connection. It will also include the revolutionary swipe down notification menu that they copied from google. They also have plans to patent that notification menu and sue google for using it. Thats right, you heard it. APPLE = COPYING INNOVATION THEN SUING the innovators.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 22:19 1

23. testman22 (Posts: 337; Member since: 03 Nov 2009)


Not to mention the iphone 4 is almost a year old now

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 17:25 1

3. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5871; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


Yes, iPhone sales are softening ahead of the pending release of the new iPhone (4S or 5) in September.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 17:30 1

5. jroc74 (Posts: 4974; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


Yea at this point many folks know Apple releases a new version every year almost like clockwork.

Those that got the iPhone on Verizon either didnt know or didnt care.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 17:52 1

7. Fanboys Suck (Posts: 609; Member since: 12 Dec 2008)


Clockwork should have been June/July...

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 17:41 1

6. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


Well, according to all of the comments on here. It seems that this article was a no brainer. LOL!

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 17:55 2

8. koutrelakos (Posts: 30; Member since: 17 Mar 2010)


the iphone 5 won't have LTE...

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 18:00

9. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Having bought a vzw iPhone in q2 I didn't care about the next iPhone as dual core isn't important to me but lte is important so I plan on getting the lte iPhone when my contracts up. That is why I didn't bother waiting when I heard the news. I didn't get an Android lte phone because Verizon's lte phones aren't good including the massive bionic. There isn't even a rumored lte phone the excites me as of yet.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 18:35 1

10. DigitalBoy05 (Posts: 203; Member since: 04 Jun 2011)


"Good" is a opinion not a fact. Just cause a device doesnt deliver content in the way thats best suited for your lifestyle / needs does not render it a bad device.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 18:53 4

11. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6588; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


Of course the Iphone have slow sales on Verizon. cause one on Verizon NO ONE CARES except APPLE lovers wants a Iphone . 2 DROIDS ARE 4G and the Iphone isn't even on the 4G network. 3 everyone love THE DROIDS

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 19:15 1

13. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


To digital boy: When you make a post your share your opinion my opinion is those devices aren't good and I have my reasons for that. So I stated my opinion and used the word good to share it. So thank you for realizing I was sharing my opinion. The revolution is to bulky the charge has touchwiz and the thunderbolt might last you a hour ( I tried it for 14 days and determined the lte isn't ready yet) and if the bionic has a 4.5 inch screen thats to big and even 4.3 is big for me while also having a looked bootloader and moto blur that's just awful. That is what i think and Others share my opinions as well and have bought an iPhone so even though a one is going to be realesed i bet they still sold a bunch. Even with the salesman trying to sell you a droid because they work on commission and get paid more for selling a droid.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 19:23

14. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Inspector gadget not just apple lovers want an iPhone I prefer an
Htc phone but Verizon doesn't have the htc phone I want which is the evo 3D. So I have an iPhone. Also not all droids are 4g and the ones on Verizon arent good. So on Verizon that leaves you with an iPhone or a droid with outdated specs which ruins the point of a droid because they are about the specs. While you can get a outdated iPhone because they are about the design and the experience. Also everyone loves the iPhone just some don't like to admit it.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 20:11 5

16. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Okay, biophone, let's explore your hypocrisy. First you state that the Revolution is too bulky and that a 4.5/4.3 inch screen is too big for you. Then you say that the HTC phone you want is the Evo 3D, which has the same size screen.

Then you say "poo poo" to the Bionic because you don't want a locked bootloader, and then after ALL OF THIS you go for the iPhone, which is way worse than having a locked bootloader, if that's what you're worried about.

Then you make ridiculous claims like "everyone loves the iPhone just some don't like to admit it." What? Or, in Internet terms, lolwut?

The iPhone is a good piece of hardware, and runs smoothly. However, I don't like it. I recognize its quality, but I don't like it, from its aesthetics, to the functionality of the operating system, to the fact that it's designed by the totalitarians at Apple. I'm offended that you would claim that I love the iPhone when I most definitely do not.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 22:37 2

26. hepresearch (unregistered)


WORD...

posted on 03 Jul 2011, 10:24 1

62. agent7 (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


I am really beginning to be a fan of yours, Sniggly. That was right on the money!

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 11:48

55. rathdrum77 (Posts: 25; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)


You couldn't pay me to use a iPhone. IMO all three of the 4g phones run circles around the iP4. And I will not pay for a phone that the developer keeps under their control like Apple does. Love Sniggly's comment about the Apple totalitarians. So true!

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 20:17 2

17. tbacba (Posts: 62; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


I do not love the IPhone, but obviously you do.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 20:20 6

18. Whateverman (Posts: 3225; Member since: 17 May 2009)


@ biophone. "Also everyone loves the iPhone just some don't like to admit it".

Sorry, gotta disagree with you on that one. Apple did single handedly change the face of the cell phone industry by showing other manufactures what is possible. But, I can honestly say not everyone LOVES the iPhone. Apple holds back many features to make iPhone users dependent on them alone. They even omit features from cross platform apps. Example: I can use Bump to transfer music, apps and pictures from my Droid X to my wife's Incredible. But when I try to Bump music to any iPhone user, they are sent to iTunes where they can purchase the song I wanted to give them. Apple should loosen up a little, give it flash until html5 is available and allow side loading third party apps. I know that would get me to like it a little better.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 21:05 4

20. TOdoubleD (Posts: 114; Member since: 28 Mar 2011)


I can assure you, that not everyone loves the iPhone. It's an overpriced ipod touch that occasionally makes phone calls on overpriced networks. You could save yourself thousands of dollars a year, by just buying an ipod touch and a pay as you go dumb phone. But a lot of the iIdiots would never do that even if it saved them money, because it's not about functionality. It's about look at me, even though I live in my mom's trailer, and haven't worked in 6 months, I'm cool cause I have the bestest phone around.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 22:09

22. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Wow I don't even know where to start! Well I guess it will have to be on the everyone loves the iPhone comment. It was cleary a joke in reference to the idiotic comment everyone loves the droid. You like coke and I like pepsi it's no big deal you should get whatever you like. I do find it interesting that no one besides me jumped on him for everyone loves droid and I get attacked for clearly joking and saying everyone loves the iPhone. I'm tired of pa being called biased against droid. Maybe people should look in the mirror before the point their finger. I recognize the many good points about droid phones but if I say any positive comment about the iPhone even if its a joke I get attacked. People are convincing themselves to not like the iPhone no matter what apple does. You should try being open minded in life.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 22:23

24. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


On to my next rant and this one is too todoubledd: this was sort of covered in my last post about the everyone loves the iPhone but I am going to talk about it being overpriced. Ok I will start out with an example. You can go to mcdonalds and get a hell of a lot of food for a little bit of money. You may say to yourself wow that is great value and your right it is. Then you go to a steakhouse and you get less paying alot more for your food. You are paying for quality at the steakhouse and apple is a very design based company that uses expensive materials of high quality. Sure it isn't good value and it isn't intended to be. To those that will jump on me for the death grip i never had a droped call. Thats unfair though maybe i just hold it right. Now as far as the pay as you go phone and the iPod touch thought people don't want to carry two devices and the iPhone allows them to only carry one plus the Verizon network your paying for great service which is the most important part as it is a phone. And to those who hate the iPhone and love droid you can thank the iPhone for making droid what it is competition drives this market. I loves the advances in iOS 5 and the iPhone that came along with the competition. And you do too most likely.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 22:55 3

27. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


"maybe I just hold it right."

This tells me all I need to know about your ability to critically think about the iPhone.

And you can get great value, quality and design all rolled into one with many Android devices. I despise elitism like that which you display in your comment.

posted on 03 Jul 2011, 10:33 1

63. agent7 (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


"Sure it isn't good value and it isn't intended to be." This is so perfect, and so true.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 22:34

25. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


To whatseverman I will admit you make good points about the iPhone but I hooked my iPhone and my friends iPhone to the same computer and we are able to share music and apps. Apple does want you to pay for it's services and I don't blame them. A couple of dollars shouldn't be a deal breaker for you. On to the flash argument just download skyfire it has flash and works just as well as android does. Although in my experience I just use safari because I don't use flash most of time and when i do which is almost never I use skyfire. Again only a couple of dollars. Anyway if you want flash use your MacBook :).

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 00:00

35. Whateverman (Posts: 3225; Member since: 17 May 2009)


The thing is, they give you one computer to sync with. No sharing outside of that, but it's not so much about the few bucks as opposed to every other time it will be just a few bucks. When buying apps for my ipad i feel nickled and dimed to death for every little thing that i can get on an Android for free. Apple wants users to come to them and only them for everything which is good for them but it seems really restricting to me. They give you very few freebies and Google just keeps throwing free this and free that to us and I'm spoiled by it.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:00

28. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Ok don't worry everybody I have saved the best for last. And this is to sniggly. I made a joke and I'm sorry it offended you but I am offended by everyone loves the droid comment. Ok not really I do love droid but it's possible to love steak and sushi. I think your problem is your perception of what it appears to me that all phones need to be perfect. In reality there is always something you don't like about your phone and that is ok. I mean no one can make a phone that everyone likes everything about it. Visually the iPhone is regarded as a good looking phone. Its ok some don't like it but some have better vision then others(I'm kidding). To explain my next point more clearly I have to now talk about compromise (yes this is a transition). Certain things you can compromise on for example screen size but there are often things that can be a dealbreaker for example battery life( I mean what good is a phone if it is dead). That was my experience with the thunderbolt I could deal with it being a little chubby but I like my phone to have battery or maye that just me being weird. The bionic I can deal with 4.3 but the fact that it looks like from all leaked shots that it was made with no care the os is so mechanical and I can't takes motoblur off cause of the bootloader (I like iOS and many do so dont care its locked down) means a bad experience I am not buying it for it's two cores because I can't tell the difference with what I do(mostly safari and apps which the iPhone is great at). The evo 3D is special cause it's exactly what I want just to big but I can compromise on that. So where is the hypocrisy in that.

Can I get a word heptesearch

And also if someone could teach me to reply on iPhone that would be cool(don't make fun of me :()

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:09

29. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Snigly the I hold it right comment was a joke again I'm sorry i like to use humor but I haven't experienced the death grip and it was overblown in my opinion( am I aloud to state that). Elitism comment I don't think I am better then you if thats what your getting at. I may think your misguided but that's ok I respect you like droid because i do to. I dont like the fact you called me a hypocrit name calling isn't neccesary ( who I am kidding name calling is awesome) I just you didn't understand where I was coming from is all. And I never said you dint get value quality and design in android like the evo 3d for example . Just not on Verizon so that doesn't help me.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:13 1

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Not on Verizon?

(Ignores the X2, X, Droid 2, Incredible 2, etc)

Okay, now I agree with you.

I think you should work on communicating your jokes a little better.

And my statement about your hypocrisy stands, and you have yet to tell me why I'm wrong.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:10

30. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I think you just don't understand where I was coming from is all
was my intended sentence

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:29

32. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Well the problem with the x2 x droid 2 and the incredible 2 is they are all droids with outdated specs. Plus x and the x2 have a hump in the camera section for god knows why. I already explained you can't have a droid with outdated specs and you can have an iPhone. On to comunicating jokes better that hard to do without expression maybe I should read my joke boke. Also you are not wrong you just didn't understand why I wanted a unlocked bootloader on the bionic. If it was an htc phone I wouldn't care because htc sense is awesome. That is except for bloatware removal which you don't get on a iPhone which explains why I wouldn't care about that. Those are the only things i would care about the bootloader for so thats why i dont care the iphone is locked down and the bionic is. Therefore i am not a hypocrit.On the big side that wasn't the deal breaker for me on the bionic the looked bootloader is. I didn't like how big the evo 3d is either therefore I am not a hypocrit because I am complaining about the same thing on each phone.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 08:28

46. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


The X2 has outdated specs? My boy, the only thing it doesn't have that other phones will is the RAM. In terms of processing power, memory storage and software it's right up there with the best. The Incredible 2 has more RAM than the X2, and a gig processor is still nothing to sneeze at. It also has a pretty good screen size. And the X is still a damn good phone, especially running Gingerbread.

As for the camera hump, it does not get in the way of the phone's functionality. True, it doesn't make for a perfectly symmetrical device, but overall the phone is still good looking.

You don't get bloatware on the iPhone? Lol, okay. Maybe not other manufacturers' bloatware, but you definitely get Apple's own bloatware. Not to mention that bloatware isn't really an issue unless you have a phone with a pitiful amount of memory onboard.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 08:32

49. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


And I don't get why you think a double standard regarding specs between the iPhone and Android is justified. Explain to me why the iPhone 4 isn't also hopelessly outdated.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:42

33. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


This is to phonearena: sorry about the cannot fight but it's not like i started it. Ok maybe I did but I am a gambit of both droid and apple the worst of both worlds or something like that. So we good right. And if anyway has the link to the phonearena story with the video where that guy stole the other guys phone but it sucked and he was convincing him to steal it that would be appreciated.

posted on 30 Jun 2011, 23:44

34. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Meant to say fanboy not cannot and fanboy not gambit I hate iPhone autocorrect if only I was a better speller sigh

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 08:29

47. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Lol. It's not your fault. The iPhone's autocorrect simply sucks overall.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 00:14

36. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


To whateverman apple does charge you for content while google gives alot of free stuff you are correct. I mean if you made an app wouldn't you want to be paid for it. Apple products are cool but they are expensive and I am not saying don't get android but don't let free content be the reason you get android. All in all there are workarounds to paying most of them illegal but if price is that important to you go ahead and get android. You work hard for your money and you should spend it how you want. You were responding to a comment of mine that was a joke to the person who said everyone loves droid. It's not my opinion that apple is for everyone it was a joke. But that being said saving money on apps sounds really fun and exciting I mean who doesnt like a good evening of clipping coupons(kidding again).

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 01:55

40. Whateverman (Posts: 3225; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Me personally, I chose Android for the customization. I was a Blackberry fan for a long time and I really got a kick out of customizing everything on it. Sounds, screens, icons and all. So when the iPhone came along, I was all ready to jump ship, but then I tried it out and was a little less impressed by the overall experience. Oh, it looked really nice, but in 2007 who makes a phone with no MMS? Then Android came along and it was just what I needed. Tons of apps, widgets and top to bottom customization! That was it for me. And when I'm talking about the freebies, it's not all apps. It's things like free turn by turn navigation, Google Goggles, text to speech... The little things that no one else is really doing. App developers are doing things like that for the iPhone and yes, they deserve to get paid for their work. But these are things that Google is doing to enhance their own platform.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 00:50

37. darkkjedii (Posts: 11973; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Boy u guys need to get laid. I swear.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 00:55

38. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


May the force be with you jedi.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 00:57

39. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Dark Jedi my problem I am tired of apple always getting crap and it's late and I am cranky.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 06:15

42. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


To whateverman well if you jailbreak an iPhone you can do alot of customization and get some of the things you where talking about as well. It's really easy to do.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 06:29 1

43. iPhone Apps Development (unregistered)


it is because the next iPhone is right around the corner and people know that

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 06:35

44. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


To whateverman: well if you jailbreak your iPhone you can get alot of customizations and get alot of the features like mms on the first iPhone and video recording. It is easy to do and I think once you do you can practically overhaul the os with all features you get. I know you will probably say well android is easy well ok but it takes 2 minutes to do and it doesnt void your warrety if you restore( asked vzw service)

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 08:30

48. Sniggly (Posts: 7119; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)


Even with a jailbroken iPhone you still don't get the level of customization you can get on a stock Android phone.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 06:37

45. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


To iPhone app development well this article was just analysis by Goldman sacs and I doubt most people care about the new phone because it seems like it will just be faster and you don't buy an iPhone for speed

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 09:54

50. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


The level of customization on a jailbroken iPhone is huge. There has been nothing that I wanted and couldn't find. However if there was I could create an app an launch it on cydia. I know there was someone who didn't like the stock orange iPod icon and made it blue and launched it on cydia. It's really cool and there are things I have done to my jailbroken phone that I couldn't figure out how to do on android.

posted on 02 Jul 2011, 01:45

57. ??? (unregistered)


Your saying that a jailbroken iphone is better than Andriod? Are you serious. You dont need to jailbreak an Andriod to to anything a jailbroken iphone has.Cydia is nothing, its so popular and easy. They make it so easy for the average user to do it. They need everything as an app, or as a link. Was it so hard to connect it as a usb, download it and then type in letters to get all the "packages"
Andriod has the custimization of a Windows PC, The iphone has the custimization of a Mac. What more do I need to say?
Think about it, dont be biased. Iphone vs Andriod
Network Andriod > Iphone, non debatable
Stock Custimization Andriod > Iphone
Hardware -- Debatable You cannot say iphone is better, Some andriod phones are more andvanced. So Tie.

The only thing the iphone is better in is for games. Andriod has much better apps on the market, other than games.

posted on 03 Jul 2011, 08:14

61. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Yeah so ? Can you change ur icons to Burton symbols. I can so that's something an iPhone can do that Android cant. Btw learn English and you don't jailbreak droid you root.

posted on 03 Jul 2011, 10:54 1

64. agent7 (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


Sorry, but you can't tell someone to learn English. I have discovered MANY errors in your comments. Even the last one while ragging on ???'s English. Everyone does it. Typos and errors in grammar happen while typing. But, this is Phone Arena, so let's move on to discussing phones. Shall we?

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 10:31

51. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


Any phone without 4G has outdated specs. Dual core doesn't mean much till ice cream sandwich comes out anyway. The iPhone can have outdated specs because it isn't about speed it's about iOS and the experience and the design. Android is about specs so it's pointless to get an android phone with outdated specs.

posted on 03 Jul 2011, 11:01

65. agent7 (Posts: 19; Member since: 20 Apr 2011)


Android is actually about customization, not specs. I have no idea where you would have derived that. The whole point of Android is customization out of the box. I know you are just trying to stick up for Apple, but you need to give it a rest. You say you love Android, too. You actually just sound like you are dating Steve Jobs. Different phones are for different people. We totally get that. Just don't make arguments for one device that you can just make for the other as well. You have already made the statement that you like both, but that you have found the Android device for you on Verizon. Why would you not have just left it at that? Make your statement and move on. You love your iPhone. FANBOYtastic. Next subject, please.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 10:34

52. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


iPhone and bloatware? I mean if you consider a calendar bloatware I guess but that pretty functional it not like having wiki tunes and let's golf 2 preinstalled. There a difference between stocks app and let's golf 2 that you can't uninstall.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 10:38

53. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


iPhone autocorrect does suck but you can turn it off. I didnt because it is useful sometimes.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 10:58

54. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


I thought of how I could explain this. Comparing the iPhone to droid is like comparing Lexus to mustang yes mustang is faster but the Lexus isn't about that. You can't get a slow mustang though but you can get a slow Lexus right.

posted on 01 Jul 2011, 13:23

56. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Lmao at droids camera hump

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