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To prevent Bendgate 2, Apple might use a tougher aluminum alloy to make the next iPhones

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To prevent Bendgate 2, Apple might use a tougher aluminum alloy to make the next iPhones
This year's upcoming iPhones are expected to be called iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus, being incremental upgrades over the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus. While the new handsets may not bring major enhancements, it's said that Apple plans to make them tougher (likely because it doesn't want last year's Bendgate controversy to arise again).

According to Taiwanese publication Economic Daily News, Apple intends to manufacture its next generation iPhones using 7000 series aluminum, an alloy that the company is already using for the Apple Watch. According to Apple, 7000 series aluminum is "60% stronger than most aluminum, and one-third the density of stainless steel." This type of alloy is also used to make competition bicycles.

Another thing that the next iPhones will reportedly borrow from the Apple Watch is the Force Touch technology, which enables a display to differentiate light touches from harder presses.

Apple will almost certainly announce (and launch) the iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus in September. The handsets are expected to use new A9 chips (most of which will be manufactured by Samsung), while sporting displays similar to those found on the current models: 4.7 inches with 750 x 1334 pixels, and 5.5 inches with 1080 x 1920 pixels, respectively.

source: Economic Daily News (translated) via Mac Rumors

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posted on 16 Apr 2015, 20:37

1. DaveElliott (Posts: 115; Member since: 20 Sep 2012)


Shocking.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 21:12 2

7. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


I don't know why companies are not using steel instead. Much stronger then any aluminum.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 22:20 2

10. vincelongman (Posts: 4424; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Steel is more expensive (OEMs always try maximise profit)
Also steel is heavier
Also aluminium has better thermal properties than steel

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 01:18

16. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


I don't think price and weight should be an issue,older ipod touches used to have it.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 01:36

17. vincelongman (Posts: 4424; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Which ones?

Wikipedia says the 4th gen iPod Touch had a Stainless Steel back
But my 4th gen iPod Touch's back is full of scratches
Stainless Steel is far harder than Aluminium, i.e. it should of had no scratches since I kept it in a case

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 23:45

32. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


Even I have an itouch 4g...stainless steel isn't scratch proof. Most of the cases can scratch steel.
Steel isn't that expensive, is also not significantly heavier than aluminum but it's a lot more difficult to bend.
They can use brushed steel to prevent/hide scratches.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 05:12 2

25. Guaire (Posts: 517; Member since: 15 Oct 2014)


Xiaomi Mi4 made of stainless steel.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 06:13

26. vincelongman (Posts: 4424; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Yep, with good designers and engineers, stainless steel isn't a problem
I was just giving the a few reasons why OEMs currently prefer aluminium over stainless steel

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 11:37

30. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


How much do you think Stailless steel costs? Its not expensive.
Look how much it costs for silverware. You can get a nice set for less than $40 and have enough for a ablet of 10 - 15 people use one box.

It's not expensive to use or make. On average Stainless Steel costs about 3.50 per pound. Sure that is just over more than half what Aluminum costs. However, Apple charges 70% more for storage so they can easily cover that costs without raising the price of the phone.

After all they raised the cost of the iPhone $100just to get 64GB of storage yet it cots only $40 on retail and we know they paid even less for it because they buy them by the millions.

YEs maximizing profits by being cheap and then they don't even want to repair their own junk. If I had bought an iPhone 6 Plus which I did consider, and it bent in my pocket and Apple refused to replace it, I would have had their ass in court within 30 days. If I didn't get it replaced then, I am going to a store and snatching what's on the table or crash a car through the front door and let the place get robbed. Whatever it takes, but they will have wished they replaced my device.

That is why I will "NEVER" buy another device from Apple because I don't want to deal with the anguish that comes with them.

Its not some blind co-incidence that Apple for the first time created an phone replacement program for the iPhone 6 models where you pay 50% retail and get a full replacement. That's ridiculous.

That's why I don't feel sorry for Apple when someone breaks into their stores and steals their crap and sells it on the black market so Apple doesn't get a penny. With the profits Apple makes because they don't make their own crap, their stuff should be better PERIOD.

Other OEM's have NEVER as far as I know, blames consumers for manufacturing defects and poor design...EVER! Samsung has never blame its consumers for issues with their devices. They acknowledge and they fix them. Even in the case where a person used a 3rd party battery and charger in a Samsung phone, Samsung replaced it. After all, it costs Samsung NOTHING to do it. Same for Apple.

But Apple is to proud. They make expensive low end products that look nice and that is all it has to offer. For $1000 the phone should be the fastest, prettiest and most durable phone in this price range and it isn't.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 01:17

15. techspace (Posts: 1036; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


Yeah, like the old ipod touches.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 11:25 2

29. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Because its heavier even in thin cuts needs for a phone.
They could use Stainless Steel, but its costlier vs using the 3rd most available cheap substance found on the planet.

Apple is about profits. But Samsung has embarrassed them this time around and Apple needs to save face. Two bendy 6's in a row would be a huge "dent" in Apple's so-called perfection.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 07:43 1

27. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Hm, copy Samsung they will!!!,!,!

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 20:40 10

2. seven7dust (unregistered)


blah blah , bendgate was a hype for youtuberes to get famous ,nothing else
meanwhile Apple has probably sold their 100 millionth iphone 6/6 plus by now

know so many peole with iPhones sixes no bendgate issues whatsoever ,

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 20:55 4

5. gaming64 (unregistered)


Also who the cuss would bend their phones? Bendgate is very rare now and Apple fixed the problem yet ignorant fandroids still blabber about it.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 21:13 4

8. Sauce5 (unregistered)


The same type of people who bend their Galaxy S6's and Edges =(

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 02:21 1

18. androtaku (Posts: 242; Member since: 12 Dec 2013)


its a feature samsung copied as well

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 03:30 2

20. tedkord (Posts: 11626; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


If Apple fixed the problem, then that means it was a problem. And it was. The real problem was they were denying replacements to people with bent iPhones. If they had simply done the right thing immediately, it never would have been an issue. But instead, they went into denial mode, just like with the iPhone 4 antenna, instead on simply fessing up and making good.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 03:28 1

19. tedkord (Posts: 11626; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


http://www.oneofthenine.com

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 12:31

31. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Youtubers. REALLY? What about the over 1000 people who posted their phone bent in their pockets? You really think a female would sit and bend her phone? You think all these people sat down and bent their phones?

You're ignorant if you think that. You can be fan of a product if you want too, that doesn't make you all stupid. What makes iFans so stupid is they think everyone is just sitting down damaging their phones. They never blame Apple for anything.

What about the iPhone 4?

Read this about the Mac G4 -http://www.computerworld.com/article/2534095/data-storage-solutions/apple-faces-lawsuit-over-defective-powerbooks.html

This story si old in itself, but this is a common problem with iPhone. Add the 2011 iMacs, iPhone 4 and iPhone 6 Plus to this list of Apple knowingly selling defective products, charging you to fix them.

You want to buy them, do so and be happy; after all its your money. But stop trying to sit there and sound like Apple is perfect and that consumers are all purposely damaging their property to get hits for money.

Yes I know lots of YouTubers with their stupid drop tests must have so much money to burn tha they go an buy a phone and drop it and break it or bend it for hits. But they are a small percentage vs the people who autually have the problem.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 20:50 1

3. cheetah2k (Posts: 1576; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


You mean use the same aircraft grade aluminium Samsung is using... interesting.. They would be better off adding more internal stiffeners instead

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 22:23 3

11. vincelongman (Posts: 4424; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


The S6 has 6013 series aluminium
7000 series aluminium is even better than the aluminium Samsung is using

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 03:31 1

21. tedkord (Posts: 11626; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Stronger, but also more brittle.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 05:07

24. vincelongman (Posts: 4424; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


But its most likely no where near brittle enough to be a concern
I'd prefer having far less scratches (except Apple decided to use a reflective coating, which probably will get scratched easier)

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 20:53

4. gaming64 (unregistered)


The problem is the iPhone 6 Plus was too thin so it was possible to bend it. This was fixed somehow with metal reinforcement. Lets just hope Apple would fix bengate probs.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 22:12 6

9. bendgate (unregistered)


Every manufacturer including apple should ditch this ridiculous thinness for better battery. Majority of people will surely prefer better battery over thinness.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 22:45 2

12. seven7dust (unregistered)


yup atleast all of us can agree on that , bigger battery is more imporant than anything else.

octa cores , sexy design , 2k display, tablet GPU, IGZO , all useless next to big battery.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 23:31

13. Bjray (Posts: 177; Member since: 29 May 2014)


I don't agree with that. But it is among the most important components, nothing wrong with having a good balance.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 03:47

23. TAMARETTE (Posts: 182; Member since: 15 Jun 2014)


You don't agree with it and neither do I nor do the majority of consumers, clearly. Just look at Samsung S6 and iPhone sales. I love it when geeks assumed that since they like something the consumers will too.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 03:34

22. tedkord (Posts: 11626; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


All components are important, but battery is the one area they keep sacrificing in the pursuit of a phone you can shave with. Phones are already too thin. Give me an extra 2-3mm thickness and a couple of extra hours of battery life.

posted on 16 Apr 2015, 21:09 2

6. lyndon420 (Posts: 4370; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)


Nothing wrong with trying to make them stronger.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 00:07

14. Chuck007 (Posts: 1109; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


Seeing how the 6S is going to be my daily driver for 2 years (I am done with annual smartphone upgrades) it better be strong. If this rumor is true September can't come soon enough.

posted on 17 Apr 2015, 11:23 1

28. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Hey look Apple fantards, Apple is going to copy Samsung and use stronger Aluminum for their bendy cheap iPhone's. Aren't you happy? See copying has its benefits, doesn't it.

Apple wouldn't admit to the "Bendy 6" being defective. But yet again they quietly fixed the issue based on a recommendation from another company whose names eludes me right now.

Apple is never willing to admit to mistakes because they don't make mistakes. So since they are so perfect, I would say since they have willing sold products to consumers, knowing they had manufacturing defect or shortcomings, then it makes them purposely evil, dishonest and they won't get anymore of my money and I will dog them out everytime they do it.

There is no reason a phone that costs nearly $1000 should bend in your pocket. Aluminum is cheap and porous and if you use it for a case,, it needs to have other metals added to give It rigidity, but allows it to have some flex. I weight 160lbs and if I got on an aluminum frames bike and it bent when I sat on it, I would be all up in arms to the manufacturer to fix it. But not Apples fans because they are stupid, plan and simple.

Anyone who would tolerate the issues with the iPhone 4 and the 6 Plus and keep buying them knowing they had issues is stupid.

Based on facts, the Aluminum used on the S6 is the same used on aircraft. The 7000 series aluminum is even stronger. However what they wont tell you is simple. Aluminum loses its strength the thinner it is cut. So it doesn't matter if a better grade is used. If it is cut very thin, it still needs to be reinforced with other materials or strong metals like magnesium.

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