The new 9.7-inch iPad Pro includes the same amount of RAM as the iPhone SE
1. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
Now bring the Apple Pencil to the 7 Plus. Just make sure the haters won't be able to say, "You're inserting it wrong".
64. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
2gb of ram simply means it is not a pro device. Apple once again sticking it to the little guy.
16. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1545; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
They wont, because the Apple Pencil wont even have a dedicated silo on the phone. Unless you count the stupid charging method as inserting.
20. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
Can you tell me the fate of my future as well :) ?
40. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1545; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
You'll continue bashing non-Apple stuff. LOL
45. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
Just praised Samsung earlier today. LOL
48. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1545; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
Good for you then.
Good thing you aren't like Mxy, who is the Techiexp of the other side, only with much shorter comments.
30. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2467; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
The 9.7in pro is still better than the 12.9in hands down. Unlocked chip so what 9.7 will still perform better than 12.9 and 2gbs of ram is more than enough.
37. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
What are you even babbling about? All I did was compliment the stylus. Calm down buddy. Jeez.
39. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2467; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
Lol chill bro, I just used your comment to post because I didn't want to scroll to the bottom lol.
53. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2467; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
Now a legit comment about the apple pencil. NoToFanboys might be right about the 7 Plus not coming with a spot to carry the pencil but that doesn't mean it won't have support for it. Apple could use pencil support for the 7 Plus to offer an official case that comes with a spot to carry the pencil they could even offer a slight discount for buying both the pencil and case together, would be a great way for Apple to make even more money off the 7 Plus......hell the regular 7 as well.
55. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
Can't they just increase the width of the phone by a few mm and slide a pencil up in there?
56. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2467; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
They could but seeing as Apple is already getting rid of the headphone jack I don't see that happening, and they would make more money offering the pencil separate and a case to go with it.
Apple could always offer a special edition 7 plus with it's own pencil that doesn't cost $118
58. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2467; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
underclocked chip*************, smh at auto correct.
44. submar (Posts: 462; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)
Apple once claimed stylus sucks and the BigiPadPro will kill PC.
See what they are doing now.
47. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
A lot of things sucked 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago that made more sense 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 years later. Use your brain
50. submar (Posts: 462; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)
That happens when Apple runs out of innovative ideas.
So they use other company's idea which they claimed sh!tty before.
60. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)
Stylus on a tiny phablet screen sucks yes. And they are sticking to that so far.
59. HonestRealist (Posts: 196; Member since: 25 Jan 2016)
Apple wont release a stylus for a phone. Simple really.
2. SIGPRO (Posts: 1432; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)
Wow 2GB of Ram.....Pro Crap indeed.
Apple you failed once again!
10. another1 (Posts: 157; Member since: 25 Dec 2015)
Apple is doomed for real pulling crap like this. I had my money ready. The camera bump was bad enough, but 2gb? You kidding?
Apple went full retard.
12. Wiencon (Posts: 1870; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)
And like Kirk Lazarus said: You never go full retard
35. jalebi2000 (Posts: 180; Member since: 01 Mar 2015)
Apple went full retard for pricing this thing for 600 usd or 800cad as the base price
43. j2001m (Posts: 2941; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
I was going to buy as the air 2 as loads of problems with ram and slow down, but if it's just got 2gb of ram, I can not see it being that big of an upgrade and at 599.99 they joking. So a sale gone from me, apart from if the reviews say it's a big upgrade in speed
22. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
The first iPad Pro was a piece of. Rap, you didn't think this would be better, did you ;-)
See me and you know better. The iPad Pro offered the same BS I had with the Note Pro 12.2 a year prior. The iPad simply had newer hardware and a higher resolution.
But the Note 12 still had advantages. SD card aupport, comes with a len, charges faster with its 3.0 port, split up to 4 apps, 2560.1600 display which above QHD, all the benefits of Android and TouchWiz and I thought after I bought it, it just wasn't worth the cost. I sold.it 5 months later.
The iPad Pro does even less it just has a nice display. But it's not better than my tv.
I also learned that a 12" tablet is equally less portable as my 17" laptop. I bought it for a specific job and after night was done it became useless.
The Surface is a smarter buy unless you have bought so many apps. But I would say keep your present iPad Air 2 and get a Surface. After all.yoir apps will still work.
They are hoping people.think that putting Pro in the name makes it better and worth an extra $100 too.
If people can't see this then they deserved to get ripped off. I saw it with Samsung. The Note 12 offers no benefit over my smaller Note phone other than size. With size I want more capability.
If a bigger device does exactly what a smaller one does, then what is the benefit of bigger? It's not a tv. A bigger TV is better than a smaller one if you watch movies.
26. nctx77 (Posts: 1959; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)
Note 12 ran Android with no tablet apps and a terrible stylus. Thanks, have a nice day!
38. Unordinary (Posts: 1692; Member since: 04 Nov 2015)
At what point, when you are writing/throwing these tantrums, does it ever occur that you sit here and waste time arguing and trying to convince/brainwash people who honestly don't give a hoot about what you have to say. Im truly interested. Do you throw a tantrum like this in school/your home when mommy says no to something?
70. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
TechieXP1969, does Note Pro 12.2 not being useful to you mean its not useful for every one else? The answer is no.
I bought the Note Pro 12.2 fully aware what i will be getting and i get a fully capable Android tablet with LTE phone feature equip with a wacom digitizer.
I carry it with me everywhere i go. Its has a 10 hours battery life, i have my work sim installed into the tablet to answer call with a bluetooth headset. I have access to GPS MAP, video calls on Skype and access to whatsapps. Hangup for personal loved one.
My work suite is Microsoft Office 365, I use OneNote and Google Keep for my note keeping. For relaxation, i like to use it read to manga and comic, the 12.2 screen is an absolute joy to read those the tiny comic conversation bubble.
I also do use autodesk sketch pro for some graphic patch work. Android apps is cheap and good enough for the work i do.
I know surface pro is your tools of choice which is great. I just think i need Note Pro 12.2 LTE phone call for my work communication and the access to whatsapp also give it a leg up against my Dell 7140 or surface pro for that matter. Its also lighter and thinner than surface pro.
I just giving you my working style not to put down Surface pro but to tell you that many people has there own style and own favorite gadget.
3. Saioofi (Posts: 243; Member since: 23 May 2014)
Before the fanboy wars begin; this is iOS, so 2GB is enough for an iPad. I'm still shocked at the fact that the iPad Pro (12") has 4GB of RAM.
7. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)
As a huge Apple fan and Android fan, it is safe to say Apple is bogus as hell for not giving this 4GB of RAM.
Although yes, iOS doesn't need it, this is an iPad Pro, which means you may eventually need to the extra RAM in a demanding application. Extra RAM helps future proof your investment.
My issue is that Apple has not sold me on what makes this pro.
1. Has same amount of RAM as iPad Air 2
2. Simply received a processor upgrade
3. Has an idiotic camera bulge
4. You can now use a stylus? (Should be standard for all iPads)
Apple knew what they were doing. They wanted to charge more for the iPad Air 3, so they are making a killing selling the previous model while upping the price without truly making this a "pro" product.
FU** Apple for this s**t. Seriously. This is coming from an IPad Air 2 owner.
8. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)
I said it before and I'll say it again. Tim Cook is doing a horrible job running Apple.
Apple is a complete mess right now. As a tech enthusiast, it is hard to see an exiting a vibrant Company make awful decisions over and over.
Steve is truly missed.
11. miket1737 (Posts: 2541; Member since: 17 Mar 2013)
I agree. Steve was about innovation and pushing Apple's skills and talents to the brink, now it is just about saving it for the next iOS device as a "upgrade" even though it should of been there previously... Now it is more about maximizing profits for the long term. But don't get me wrong, Apple's iOS and it's ecosystem and it's products is pretty great in terms of synergy and smoothness and support it gets for a while and all but what I said and you said absolutely is true. Apple should be tossing 6GB of ram in the Pro, at least 4GB, OIS in their tablets, etc , top notch bleeding edge stuff . they are filthy rich, I do still enjoy their products though but there are other good products as well and for cheaper so..
34. S-R-K (banned) (Posts: 304; Member since: 15 Mar 2016)
That's what efin pisses me off, the crappy Ram.
Why not 4Gb or 6gb Ram.
41. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1545; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)
"Tim Cook is doing a horrible job running Apple."
51. grbrao (Posts: 287; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)
well said, i was watching the event other day, it was lifeless... no enthusiasam among the viewers....... look like the wow factor lost with steave.........
17. vijay.alapati (Posts: 138; Member since: 08 Jan 2015)
Agreed, Owner of iPad Air (1gen) and i didn't get true split window multitasking, which is only available for ipad air 2, if air (1 gen) was given 2 gb ram that would have allowed to get the true multitasking :(
28. Ordinary (Posts: 2316; Member since: 23 Apr 2015)
I have Air 2 and I didnt get power saving mode
36. jalebi2000 (Posts: 180; Member since: 01 Mar 2015)
I was a apple user until I switched to android. I'm surprised how many people can relate to me. I'm actually sad because i love apple products but apples policys are keeping me at bay.
65. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Agreed i have the air 2 ans might wanted to upgrade...
Now i will get a surface pro probably the i7 model its will cost but worth it.
14. xondk (Posts: 1388; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
For heavy professionel work? nope, no it is not? editing and whatnot is quite RAM intensive, so yeah.
4. Martineverest (Posts: 337; Member since: 27 Oct 2015)
Extortion at the highest order........ Failure beckons
5. scarface21173 (Posts: 154; Member since: 17 Aug 2014)
Last years tech, Under clocked, less ram and it costs more and they call this a pro version.
6. Tsepz_GP (Posts: 987; Member since: 12 Apr 2012)
Well then seems like my iPad Air 2 64GB LTE will be just fine for at least the next 2.5years :D
9. sina.mirhejazi (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Mar 2016)
Honestly, I didn't know that original Pro has 4gigs of RAM. I mean, WOW!
What is it for?
But on the other side, it's a Pro tablet and should be able to do something more than that air series tablets, at least on paper
19. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
It's to push the pixels on that big screen to watch movies and read email.
15. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 2934; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Haha, typical apple doing what it does best; seamlessly separating fools from their money.
Does the $100 pencil or $170 keyboard even come with this new toyPad? It's literally just an incremental update to the iPad Air 2; faster CPU/GPU, better camera, support digitizer (like true tablet), support keyboard. There's no rational reason for it to cost $100 more...besides to compensate for apple's continuous decline in iPad sales and thus profit.
32. gaming64 (Posts: 234; Member since: 22 Mar 2016)
The iPad was never made to appeal to the poorer markets. A man can wish all the specs they want and still won't get enough. Besides, iPads still run iOS, which isn't even that heavy at all to actually need 4GB of RAM.
42. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 2934; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
"The iPad was never made to appeal to the poorer markets"
Lol, yeah it's targeted at fools who have more cash than sense. Neither was the Surface Pro targeted at such market, heck, go look at Surface videos/ads on youtube and you'll see a whole bunch of ipad/apple users crying "it's too expensive for a tablet" or "the mac is cheaper" or "the iPad is much cheaper" in the comment sections. Yet it's nowhere near as inferior and overpriced as this toy. Money is no problem, at least for me, the price just better be justified.
"A man can wish all the specs they want and still won't get enough...from apple."
There, fixed it for you. The Surface Pro offers reasonable specs and functions for the price. Heck, you can get the more powerful i5 256GB SSD 8GB RAM Surface Pro 2 + Backlit and trackpad-equipped Type Cover 2 for similar price:
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"Besides, iPads still run iOS, which isn't even that heavy at all to actually need 4GB of RAM."
Lol, you clearly haven't got a fukn clue what RAM is used for...hint, multitasking.
49. gaming64 (Posts: 234; Member since: 22 Mar 2016)
I'm not dumb to not know what multitasking is. And I dont give a damn about other tablets. I'm talking about the iPad and its position in the market exclusively.
66. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
the name Pro make it a device for Pro need so its need more Ram in case you edit BIG stuff.
So go play your games on your ipad air ( i play game on mine too )
18. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
I I don't understand how a device with lower specs your saying is just as fast or faster vs other options is somehow a good thing.
The fact that Apple develops hardware and software in-house has long since allowed the company to be less spec-heavy and yet still match or best its competitors for real-world performance
So you're basically saying, because your 2 ton car is equally as good as a 14 ton semi-trailer simply because they both can both do 55mph. Lol.
If the iPad present specs were shiver into a Galaxy Note Property with all the same abilities, the iPad would crawl to a half as it's hardware wouldn't even be able to handle what these highly specialized options are.
Yet there are phones with Android with similar hardware as the iPhone and they aren't struglling, and they also like apple.devies not filled with festures.
A phone with more features obviously needs.more power. Just like a 2 ton car would struggle to pull a full trailer of a semi.
I rather have a Surface. For $599 I can get a Surface Pro 3 with a pen and 128GB of storage. I can go everything the iPad can and lots more things it cant. Including store all my personal files and documents
I just don't see how something that does less is better than something that does more at the exact same price point. Lol
24. Ninetysix (Posts: 2378; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
Typical dumb argument where you have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you read Anandtech's analysis of the A9X so you'll learn something new.
31. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Dude I don't give a crappie a out things like benchmarks, speedtests, or the stupid claims that a mobile process is equally as good as a desktop. It's not. It's processing a different set of instructions. My i7 can run Crysis at full mad and I can get 60FPS or more from my GPu. The iPad would not be bale to do that pushing rhetoric same code. The game would have to be changed with lesser graphics.
If I took my Note 5 right now as is and could shove it onto the iPhone 6S Plus and it would stall or completely crash due to its low specs.
I don't care about tech sites who try to compare 2 completely different platforms and how they handle take and try to claim one can be equally as good.
IOS is not equally as good as android just because it's better at certain things. It's not better at everything. If the A9X was as powerful as a desktop class cpu, then the apps on iOS would be equally based good as they are on the desktop and cost as much too.
The CPU inside the iPad cost less than $60. You can't even by an i7 for that even if you bought 1M of them.
If the iPad could do what a Surface Pro does equally, the Surface Pro would die a horrible retail death.
71. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
TechieXP1969, give it a rest. PA are filled with fans. They want to buy iPad Pro over Surface Pro is because the are Apple fans not Microsoft fan.
You are a surface owner of course you think very highly of Surface. My company is now evaluating Surface Pro 4 to give to employee and i hope it pull thru. Would love to get my hand on one.
MS gadget is also not cheap comparable to Apple pricing.
That why i prefer mainstream brands like DELL, HP, Asus and last but still last Acer the bargain brand which i happen to like. Just that they have awful designs, like those in 2006.
21. BradyCrack (Posts: 674; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)
Disappointing, but it won't pull me away. If the air 2 can run 2gb and work fine I really don't see why everyone's going nuts over it. There aren't many apps in the AppStore that require more then 2gigs.
27. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
You mean their aren't any apps that require it. There aren't any Android apps that need to 2GB of ram.
My device has 4GB. 1.5 is for the OS. I usually have 2GB for my apps.
More ram means you can add more capability. Apple.dowsnt want the iPad to do more until they allow it. That is why Android and Windows took off. Apple.isn still like a parent trying to deprive it's kids of fun.
61. BradyCrack (Posts: 674; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)
Well that's my point. iOS does not need so much room to run it, so what's the point? Still I wouldn't mind 3gb even if it is for only entertainment purposes...