The Tegra K1 shows up at benchmarks, wipes the floor with Snapdragon 801
At the announcement, NVIDIA hyped the chip's CUDA technology for parallel computing, even saying that it outperforms the previous generation Xbox 360 and PS3 consoles with far less power consumption. Hopefully, NVIDIA has nailed the K1's cooling and power optimization this time and the chip will enjoy more popularity in devices compared to the Tegra 4, which is very rarely seen outside of the NVIDIA Shield console.
Tegra K1 benchmarks
source: evolife.cn via G for Games
1. ajac09 (Posts: 1361; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
to bad we wont see many devices with it.. again
28. kamejoko (Posts: 106; Member since: 10 Nov 2011)
sorry but Tegra K1 vs with Qualcomm S810. Because end of year ready go 64bit. Sure Qualcomm S810 will win.
39. brrunopt (Posts: 466; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
So will nVidea with Denver (2nd K1 version)
22. networkdood (Posts: 6261; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
"As Xiaomi revealed the first tablet to use NVIDIA's powerful K1 mobile SoC"
62. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4054; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
To bad no Oems except Apple and Samsung is pushing the cpu boundaries
To bad every pathetic Oems will be using outdated socs
3. brnkcv (Posts: 6; Member since: 06 May 2014)
My guess is this SoC is in splitsville with batterytown
32. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
in CPU, but the GPU will still be miles ahead.
58. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4054; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
S805 is just a extra 200Ghz and it's still a A9 Cortex vs A15
5. blingblingthing (Posts: 423; Member since: 23 Oct 2012)
Wow @ benchmarks. Is it just me , but initially wasn't the tegra 4 outperforming the 801 in earlier slides? Sort of like how initially iPhone 4s benchmarks showed it was faster than a S3?
Similar to how the IPhone 5s is outperforming everything, i'm watching to see what later benchmarks show later in life.
30. sgodsell (Posts: 1051; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
I just love how ignorant people like you are and will say the iPhone 5s is outperforming everything else. Well its easy when a 1136x640 resolution display is only pushing 727040 pixels, or 2908160 bytes on that tiny 4" display. Whereas the flagship phones that are currently using a resolution of 1920x1080 are pushing 2073600 pixels, or 8294400 bytes on a larger 4.7" all the way up to 6" displays. If you do the math even farther and go as far as 30fps for the iPhone 5,5S,5C then for 1second that works out to 87244800 bytes (87Mbps). Now a Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, HTC one, Sony Z2, and many more at 30fps for just 1 second is pushing 248832000 bytes (250Mbps). So your tiny little iPhone is pushing almost 3 times less data on the display. So if you like your iPhone display that hasn't changed in 2 years. That's great for you. I will stick to my superior full HD display anyday of the week. Isn't the iPhone suppose to be perfect the way it is. So why is Apple going with a larger 4.7" and a 5.5" display with supposedly a resolution of 1704x960. That will work out to 196 Mbps at 30fps which is about 50Mbps less then a FHD display.
55. Ashoaib (Posts: 1413; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Wow... you have done your home work about apple's display and speed... nice statistics
64. Zomer (Posts: 43; Member since: 31 May 2013)
Boohoo, your Android device will still lag even if they put in a processor that is twice as fast as the Tegra K1. Don't hate, everybody knows you want one!
69. uRiBiTo666 (Posts: 20; Member since: 02 Jun 2013)
Too bad you can't report a post for ignorance. The outdated snapdragon S4 pro won't lag on a FHD display. If you read, you read that it beats a ps3 or Xbox 360. No matter which one you choose, you know they DON'T lag.
33. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
because the tegra 4 does outperform the SD 801. qualcomm is getting settled into 90+% market share territory where they don't have to innovate.
54. GreekGeek (Posts: 648; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
TEGRA 4 only outperforms the SD800 on devices with active cooling ( eg Shield)
Get your facts accurately
56. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
WRONG (but this time for real)
tegra 4 outperforms the sd800 in their tablet too. and there is no active cooling on the nvidia sheild.
63. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4054; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
A 1.8Ghz Tegra4 doing some damage just imagine clocked at 2.7ghz ... that would even destroy the S810
65. tankifycation (Posts: 6; Member since: 15 Jul 2013)
There is clearly a fan in the nvidea shield
51. vincelongman (Posts: 1044; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
The A7 isn't out performing everything, compared the 800/801 is very even
The A7 is faster in single core CPU benchmarks, browser benchmarks and some GPU benchmarks.
The 800 is faster in multi core CPU benchmarks, some GPUs benchmarks, and app opening tests.
6. serrano989 (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
Nvidia may be on to something. They let AMD take the console market, only to try and create something themselves in the mobile market. If they continue to do things like portal and half life on the shield. The shield 2 could be interesting if its capable of ps3 graphics.
8. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1214; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)
Too bad it doesn't work well when it gets too hot -___- I would really like to see a nice tablet with K1 cpu so I can play some awesome Tegra games with it.
15. TylerGrunter (Posts: 877; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
You have it already: the Xiaomi MiPad was announced just today.
68. TylerGrunter (Posts: 877; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
It is, but only in China and some other areas where Xiaomi does have influence.
You can try here when they restock it:
9. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
I personally don't see the point in a chipset this powerful considering android is not optimized to take advantage of such power. In all honesty, anything more powerful than a snapdragon 600 is overkill. I can kinds see the point in Adreno 400+ and DDR3 ram as well as a possibility to upgrade to DDR4 ram but not so much anything beyond A15 and Krait at least for another year and a half.
I think the tegra K1 is a year too advanced for it's time. Wait until android can really be optimized to take advantage of a 64bit processor, NVidia...jeeze. I have tons of issues with both Qualcomm and NVidia but NVidia shot themselves in the foot, by making an underpowered desktop processor, pricing it as such and now looking on in confusion as to why they won't sell LMAO....
My issue with Qualcomm is more so with CPU and GPU threading which is something I won't get into. I'll just day I wish that they would optimize some of the CPU cores to be able pull the load of the GPU simply to compensate for the extra power needed to compete with NVidia because in honesty, 2 krait cores coupled with DDR3 Ram is more than enough to run tasks...
11. serrano989 (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
This is most likely the 32 bit version. The 64bit version isn't expected until the end of this year or early next year. 4gb of ram is the 32bit cap. So, this is not guaranteed to be the 64bit version like the article states. Now, if it were 8gb of ram that would be a different story.
13. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Either way, Nividia shouldn't have revealed this chipset until it was fully polished in 2015. Considering just how powerful it is, I wouldn't mind waiting on it. I hate when companies do that, reveal a product that still needs work and force themselves to meet this deadline because they are afraid of competition. Its truly a great product but what Nvidia needs to learn from Qualcomm is to find the balance between effeciency, power, and price. Also, don't let my rant fool you!!! I'm rooting hard for Nvidia...I'm tired of Qualcomm...their name is everywhere just like I'm tired of Samsung...
18. serrano989 (Posts: 24; Member since: 02 Apr 2012)
The thing I really like about it is that it supports Directx 11, Open GL 4.4 and now CUDA. With games like portal and half life coming to the 1st shield. I can only hope the shield 2 brings in more pc and console type games. They were left out of the console market. Let us see what they can do with the mobile gaming market. Even if this chip is before its time.
45. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Yeah now that is pretty cool! I just hate the form factor of the Shield. I'd much prefer a more streamlined clamshell device with some design cues taken from the Lenovo Yoga tabs and a slim gaming laptop, kept in a 10 inch package. But that's just me LOL. I'm probably gonna catch a lot of flak for that one.
31. sgodsell (Posts: 1051; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)
You lost it when said Android is not optimized to take advantage of such power. If you know anything about Android they you would know that it requires a GPU that is opengl ES 1.1 at a minimum. Now since KitKat Android requires a GPU that is opengl ES 2.0 minimum. Any OS that requires a GPU to perform a minimum of necessary graphics routines can take advantage of the graphics power.
46. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Sorry! I should have stated specific apps. I stated android as a whole. LOL.
70. yowanvista (Posts: 299; Member since: 20 Sep 2011)
Cortex-A15 can actually address up to 4GB of RAM with LPAE enabled, this makes 40-bit addressing possible.
16. TylerGrunter (Posts: 877; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Why would you need to wait for Android optimization for 64bit when Tegra K1 has a version with 32bits using A15 cores?
44. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
Oops, I didn't even consider that one. My faulty logic!!! SORRY!!!
19. boosook (Posts: 933; Member since: 19 Nov 2012)
meh... every year, there's someone who says that she doesn't see the point in having a more powerful chipset... the point is that, to add features, you need power. Developers need that power *before* they start developing a new resource demanding application, because no developer would write software that couldn't run on existing smartphones.
So the progress of IT technology works like this: software -> more power available -> more powerful software written, not the other way.
So we are constantly improving our computers and phones because the industry releases more powerful processors every day. Otherwise, we would still be using text interfaces like in 1982.
Give developers the power, and someoune will use it to write something you couldn't even imagine before.
43. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)
No that's not what I meant. I understand exactly what you mean about developers need power before they start developing something truly new which takes advantage of the power. I was referring to the time it takes these developers to utilize such power before we consumers get a proper chance to take full glory of it. And well all know how fast the mobile market is moving. Next year the tegra K1 will be phased out by the Tegra 5 and so on. My point is that chipset technology is moving ridiculously fast. It's moving fast in the right direction but fast nonetheless. The only apps that push and strain GPUs are benchmark apps and we all know that most apps don't even make a snapdragon 801 sweat let alone an older 600 chipset. Ultimately what I'm saying is that I'd prefer a slower advancement in chip-sets just so apps can be truly optimized for powerful GPUs. You see these new phones these days are being built for the long haul hall but yearly upgrades in internals don't do the android community much justice.
Again I'm stating it's not that I don't see a point in more powerful chipsets. I'm saying I don't see a point in making these chipsets have relatively incremental updates every year when you have developers scrambling to optimize apps for the previous gen chipset. LOL, I should have made that more clear. I apologize on that front.
23. fireblade (Posts: 660; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
Yeah, but the makers don't make the CPU for android only. Perhaps someday there are more OS other than android that can take the full power of the CPU.
I'd like to see ARM in desktop or server
24. MarkArigayo (Posts: 240; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)
I haven't seen any official reviews, but Tegra3 on HTC One X gave us the clue. However, both Tegra3 and Tegra4 share the same platform, 4+1.
17. TylerGrunter (Posts: 877; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Any base for tha statement?
Rumors not included please.
26. MarkArigayo (Posts: 240; Member since: 18 Dec 2013)
Just suspect. My opinion is based on Tegra3 did for HTC One X. It runs fast but the battery last for just 4 hours both in web browsing and video playback.
57. TylerGrunter (Posts: 877; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Only Tegra 3 was a cheap one built in 40 nm tech... While the new ones are in 28 nm, quite the difference there. Xiaomi is providing quite impressive numbers. I prefer to check facts before judging.
25. fireblade (Posts: 660; Member since: 27 Dec 2013)
what you see (the prototype with an adaptor) is the K1 that runs at 3 GHz. That's why it's hot and needs more power just like your PC which runs at 3+ GHz with power supply
12. refillable (Posts: 596; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Just Like AMD, I think they're supposed to be put on tablets and never smartphones... That's kinda sad. I hope BOTH of them release some product that can be a viable option for smartphones that hopefully give competition to Qualcomm. Competition = Awesomeness.
35. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
I dont remember them saying that. the Denver version should be perfect for smartphones.
20. AfterShock (Posts: 2598; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Kool, I'll believe it when it'd in production and sold on retail channels.
Nvidia likes to tweak, then ramp down for mass consumption.
53. GreekGeek (Posts: 648; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
Plus they haven't solved much of Tegra 4's throttling issue
ALL OF A SUDDEN we have a perfectly fast SoC that every tech geek has been waiting for! Lol
One things for sure,this wont make it on phones
21. livyatan (Posts: 679; Member since: 19 Jun 2013)
Sunspider seems off.. the SD 801Galaxy S5 scores a record breaking 385ms.
With that said, K1 should and absolutely is way above the Snapdragon 801, and should even top the SD 805, considering the monster GPU it has.
36. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
It may depend on the device, according to anandtech's benchmarks the snapdragon 801 in the m8 has a worse score than the SD 800 in the nexus 5.(772.9ms vs 686.9ms)
I think a lot of it comes down to design and implementation.
50. vincelongman (Posts: 1044; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Sunspider is actually a browser benchmark, like Kraken and Octane.
So it tests the browser used more than the devices CPU.
To compare CPUs using browser benchmarks you must use the same browser on each phone, which is why most browser benchmarks are pointless for comparing cross platform as there are different browsers.
I think AnandTech use Chrome, maybe there was an update which changed something
59. Arte-8800 (limited) (Posts: 4054; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
This is clocked at around 2.2Ghz vs S805 2.7Ghz unfair
34. Totse2k15 (Posts: 236; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)
My love for Snapdragon will not change. Nvidia/K1 meh...
38. grahaman27 (Posts: 347; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
good for you, I guess you dont like change.