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Steve Wozniak says Apple should do Android, is not impressed by Samsung

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Steve Wozniak says Apple should do Android, is not impressed by Samsung

Apple's co-founder, Steve Wozniak, is known for speaking out his mind in a frank and direct manner. But nothing really corroborates that notion as completely as does a just-outed interview the man gave for Wired. According to Woz, Apple should do Android, and there'd by nothing to really stop it, as people go bananas for Apple products:

There’s nothing that would keep Apple out of the Android market as a secondary phone market,” says Wozniak. “We could compete very well. People like the precious looks of stylings and manufacturing that we do in our product compared to the other Android offerings. We could play in two arenas at the same time.”

Of course, the very notion sounds almost like heresy, given the long history of struggle the Android and iOS platforms share. But hey, that is one perk of not being involved in the day-to-day running of the company -- you can say whatever you please and get away with it. Which doesn't mean that the idea isn't intriguing, to say the least. While the Android army of manufacturers is now far beyond count, truly premium handsets are still a rarity. And Apple certainly could do it -- Android is, after all, an open-source platform (sort of). Obviously, the odds of hitting the jackpot sound like a sure deal in comparison.

Woz also addressed a common question that has been up in the air this past year -- has Apple lost its mojo? The co-founder is not worried. According to him, "a whole new category of products doesn't happen very often". 

But Wozniak had more to say, and went on to imply that it's companies like Samsung that don't innovate, not Apple. According to the tech guru, pouring features into a handset does not satisfy the sacred meaning of the word. He, instead, commended Apple on its restraint from bloating its OS:

If you have something really good, don’t change it; don’t screw it up,” Wozniak said. “You pick up a Samsung phone and say smile and it takes a picture, but how much innovation is that? That’s just throwing in a lot of features. People don’t really choose their smartphones based on features,” he adds. “I think Apple is superior at being able to say no.

Of course, Wozniak does have more reason to stay true to Apple than most.

source: Wired, image credit: Hannes Magerstaedt/Getty Images for Best Brands

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posted on 06 Feb 2014, 09:59 2

1. vandroid (Posts: 262; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


You can tell that and iPhone running android has been discussed many times within the company. I say they should do it I love both iOS and android equally but imessage on android would be killer!

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:23 8

8. akki20892 (Posts: 3450; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Not gonna happen.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:35 3

11. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 3510; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)


I think he's finally gone crazy. iOS on android is like the donkeys I mean broncos shaking hands with the Seahawks.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:39 11

13. EclipseGSX (limited) (Posts: 1587; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


You mean it's already been done? /s

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:47 2

15. sprockkets (Posts: 1161; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)


I think he is saying that apple should make an android phone with all its bling, but yes, that shouldn't never happen.

I mean, they can't even get ios7 right almost a year later!

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:33 4

35. vandroid (Posts: 262; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


IOS 7 in my opinion is just IOS looking similar to android while keeping the IOS feel. Imagine what kind of android skin apple could make

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:37

44. reckless562 (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


Thank You

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:49 4

16. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6463; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


I think you're delusional. This man is AWESOME.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:10 3

26. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


Finally gone crazy? He's been this way for a while now.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:26 3

32. vandroid (Posts: 262; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


Atleast it's good crazy ;)

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:48 3

38. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


I think he's gone bat crap crazy.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:25 17

31. Finalflash (Posts: 1751; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Lol no he isn't crazy, he just isn't a fanboy. He sees something he likes and speaks him mind, that is respectable and commendable. He openly admits what is wrong and what is right no matter who or what the subject is. Fanboys such as yourself could learn a thing or two from him.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:56 3

39. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


Him not being a fanboy is beside the point. He just says nonsensical things. Who in their right mind believes Apple should do Android? They would never generate the sales and profits they have right now.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:27 1

42. vandroid (Posts: 262; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


Just because I don't have a biased opinion like you and other people doesn't mean I say "nonsensical things." Apple would too generate sales, for a lot of people their only problem with IOS is it not being open sourced like android. Put premium build quality with killer software and good advertisement and you have lots of profit

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:43 2

47. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


That was a neutral comment. If Sundar Pichai said Google was going to make a Nexus Windows phone I would say he nuts.

Second, there's already a number of Android phones with what you perceive as "premium build quality".

Third, you're diluting the iOS brand by going with another OS, not to mention handing a ton of money to one of your rivals.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 14:55

68. shahrooz (Posts: 143; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


"If Sundar Pichai said Google was going to make a Nexus Windows phone I would say he nuts"
this comment gave me this idea:
apple should do a nexus device! LOL :D

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:45

48. reckless562 (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


UUMMMMmmm MEEEE?!?!? because u get a great camera (software ppl, thats y apples camera is pound 4 pound, #1), u get Great design of phone, u get the usability of ANDROID not the stiffiling closet of iOS, the actual true inovations apple made will be able to finaly realize theire TRUE potential when ANYONE can manipulate them to what they want, WHEN they want it to. hell Imagine Custom Roms on an Apple device!!! i would be VERRY intrested in buying one.......
that said, it still would need a Removable Battery and SD card slot :D

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:47 1

50. JerryTime (Posts: 468; Member since: 09 Nov 2013)


They wouldn't generate sales and profits by switching to the most prevelant mobile OS in the world? Did you really just say that?

Not to mention iFanboys all over the US would go bananas if Apple sold an iTurd and put it in a box with an Apple logo on it. iFans will buy just about anything with an Apple logo on it. It's pathetic, but true.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:08

59. elitewolverine (Posts: 1581; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Almost like they do for android. You put android in the box and people without know how just simply buy the phone because their friends note 3 is awesome then call the carrier mad that their phone is slow.

However i agree, apple fans i dont know would go nuts, but more money in any companies pockets is a win. Isn't the whole idea of android being open? I guess it's users are less than open.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:48 1

64. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


What world are you living in? The Note 3 is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. Nor was the S3 that I use to have or the S4 I have now.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 16:30

76. networkdood (Posts: 6267; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)


nope
....

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:31

63. vandroid (Posts: 262; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


When ifans see a new apple product they know what to expect and it's clear why they do. Apple has given customers satisfaction and has made their brand known for reliability.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:12

61. phonetekmek (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)


Read the article, he said as a secondary device. So the existing profits would be there and now ADDITIONAL profits and sales from people who want Android not iOS but would like the premium Apple hardware. Multiple revenue streams instead of limited to iOS. So its an ingenious plan, but one that will never happen.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:19

62. PBXtech (Posts: 977; Member since: 21 Oct 2013)


Are you saying that if Apple did both OS', they wouldn't make more money than they are now?

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 14:04 1

65. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


Yes. It'll diminish their iOS brand and potential iTunes profit would go to Google. iTunes is a big money maker for them, not to mention iOS has exclusive apps and the apps usually come to their store first. They risk the chance of that coming to end if they did both iOS and Android.

What they should do is what they are rumored to be doing - increase the size of the phone. That'll have a bigger impact then going to Android.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 19:54

91. ncarlosmiguel (Posts: 206; Member since: 14 May 2013)


Yes I agree with Ant34. If they do Android, it might give the impression that thay are admitting their OS is inferior so they need to use a better one (Android), which is true by the way.

And if iOS users switch to "Apple Android", they will not generate the same revenue they get from iOS devices because of Google licensing (if its Google Android), and Play Store revenue goes to Google instead of Apple. So yeah their revenue will not be the same.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 15:52

72. tedkord (Posts: 4753; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


People who love tech. Apple would make more profits of they did this. They could sell to both sides.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:38

45. reckless562 (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


THANK You

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:08 1

58. phonetekmek (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Oct 2013)


Umm they did shake hands after the super bowl. And it is Android software on Apple hardware that he is suggesting. Not iOS on Android. I think it would be a brilliant move honestly. I know it would never happen but Apple would get millons of new customers, and it would be an innovative way to get into emerging markets with lower price devices.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:54 2

55. james004 (Posts: 471; Member since: 15 May 2013)


hangout exists. its cross platform and based on cloud. i dont think any messaging app can beat that.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:07 1

57. Sauce (unregistered)


Yet none of my close friends (at least 15 friends contacted within the past month) use Hangouts, not to mention the rest of my friends / contacts. Hangouts was a flop.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 17:07 1

84. james004 (Posts: 471; Member since: 15 May 2013)


i could say the same for my use. i have never used imessage app or dont know anyone that does use it. -_-

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 18:21

86. Sauce (unregistered)


You probably haven't because it isn't an app. Humor aside, you probably have no friends. I can't stand when I'm using my Note 2 and I text friends with iMessage. Even though our texts go through as text messages and not iMessages, I get envious of iMessage. I admit it.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 13:12

60. elitewolverine (Posts: 1581; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


hangouts? cross platform? Hmm my WP says otherwise in the app department.

I know a messaging app that is truely cross platform and doesnt even need an app for things like flipphones, and runs on the pc as well....

Yes my WP can use hangouts i think from the browser but for what? Like sauce stated, i only have hangouts because google made it so and linked it to my youtube account that was never a gmail account to begin with.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 15:18 2

70. androiphone20 (Posts: 1442; Member since: 10 Jul 2013)


The Woz has spoken! A lot of people on this site would praise Steve over anything he said before and I too gave lots of props to the guy, I still do. Everything the Woz said is SPOT ON though it's unlikely that it's going to happen. It's like Steve just rehashed everything that's happening right now

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 16:47 1

83. Dingy_cellar_dweller (Posts: 185; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


Woz will say anything to get his share price up.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 23:51

97. techaman (unregistered)


i hate apple but i would get a iphone with android on it i like android software apples little to no lag and dreams here but what the hell is he talking about people dont buy the phones on features thats what people do buy phones for put iphone 3 against 5s what will people choose more features on 5s

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:00 18

2. power_x (Posts: 226; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


GO HOME WOZ YOU ARE iDRUNK

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:08 17

4. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1279; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


He's totally drunk... Everyone knows that iPhone already is doing Android in China :P

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:47

49. reckless562 (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


lol oopps i forgot bout that one :D gooooooo GOO PHONE!!!

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:30

10. SleepingOz (unregistered)


You beat me to it! Lol..
There's no way this is gonna happen!

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:56 3

18. dratomic (Posts: 461; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


hes egomaniac. look at him wearing a t shirt with his own picture on it.
hes drunk because of ever thinking about an actual apple android phone.
hes crazy because he thinks samsuc in not innovative. half of iphone components are made by samsuc. how can he say that?!
and finally hes overrated. people love him because hes friendly. i would love to see him sporting bill gates' wealth and see how he'd change.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:07 23

3. joey_sfb (Posts: 2916; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


His comments don't make sense. iOS has more premium apps collection than Android in the present state.

Still I choose Android to avoid being locked down into a single manufacturer ecosystem. I also disagree with his sweeping statement that all Samsung offered features are useless. I do use multi windows and S note a lot. Features not in use are switched off.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:04 3

23. PapaSmurf (limited) (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


This x100.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:10 2

41. PorkyBurger (Posts: 222; Member since: 18 May 2013)


Nope, x-infinity.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:51

51. reckless562 (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


THANK YOU

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:11 12

5. Whateverman (Posts: 3199; Member since: 17 May 2009)


*Gasp* An Apple phone rubbing ANDROID!?! Aren't there laws against that? Kidding.

Now that would get me into an iPhone, especially if the 5.5 inch screen became a reality. But still, We know that won't happen soooo...

As for the Samsung part, I can somewhat agree with HS whatWoz is saying, but com'on. Apple hadn't been innovating anything since the first iPad came out. Samsung has done just as much if not more for this industry as Apple. Not hating on Apple, it just is what it is.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:13 1

6. ihavenoname (Posts: 1386; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


I'd have nothing against to Android with iPhone hardware, but for reasons that I can't explain, I wouldn't want Apple to do Android.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:17 3

7. surethom (Posts: 260; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)


The Galaxy S4 is full of gimmicks hopefully the S5 will get back to its core, faster better camera, better material. iphone is slowly turning into Android anyway, with all its pull down menus, & it will have to implement Widgets/live tiles? soon otherwise the home screen will look even more outdated in a years time.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 10:50

17. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6463; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)


The iPhone still have its rectangular shape and suing everyone from left to right. And gain only a 2" screen size

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:07 9

25. PapaSmurf (limited) (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


S4 was a gimmick? Dafu.q are you smoking?

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:14 3

27. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


He or she said the S4 is filled with gimmicks and I totally agree.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:25 9

30. PapaSmurf (limited) (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


If you think Multi Window is a gimmick then you need to go see a doctor right away.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:37 1

37. dratomic (Posts: 461; Member since: 09 Oct 2013)


refer them to me :))

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:59 2

40. Ant34 (Posts: 193; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


I've only used it once on my S4 just to see how it works. It's a nice concept but the screen is just too small. It's better suited for tablets.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 12:52 1

52. reckless562 (Posts: 769; Member since: 09 Sep 2013)


Thank YOU

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 14:49

66. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4018; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Multi Window was introduced on the Note 2, not the GS4. I find it hard to find practical and useful features out of the giant pile of gimmicks that was introduced with the GS4.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 15:21

71. PapaSmurf (limited) (Posts: 8300; Member since: 14 May 2012)


To each their own. All I know is Group Play is amazing, especially if you don't have portable speakers with you.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 17:54

85. joey_sfb (Posts: 2916; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I also use Group Play and S Beam (or Android Beam) for those that don't have Samsung to share photos among friends and relative.

I also like the smart stay, that keep the screen on when I am looking at it otherwise the screen will shut down in 30 seconds.

Agreed, I don't use any motion features so I switch them all off. Part of the joy of using Samsung Phone is to test out the feature one by one and see what suit you and to keep those 'On" while turning the rest off to avoid dampening the user experience.

I also support Samsung default setting is to keep ALL Features switch off with alert to tell User about a certain feature and the user could either try out the feature or disable that alert. This systematic approach tell me that Samsung has determine to refine their Software feature, the result is getting better on each generation.

However, I am also aware that putting so much features on the phone would increase the size of the system storage requirement. I just hope one day they will tell us the true storage capacity including those that is used by system ROM.

e.g S4 16G model is effectively a 8G storage phone. People respect you more for being honest.

posted on 06 Feb 2014, 11:30 5

34. Finalflash (Posts: 1751; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


The iPhone is nothing like Android and no where closer to it, even when compared to what Android was in 2010. They added a notification center that isn't even as good and added shortcuts that were there in SBsettings since the inception of jailbreaking. There still is 0 multitasking and 0 customizability. To say they changed anything because they changed up the skin on the phone is ridiculous.

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