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Sony allegedly battling with Snapdragon 810 heat dissipation from the thin Xperia Z4

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Sony allegedly battling with Snapdragon 810 heat dissipation from the thin Xperia Z4
While Sony might not announce its Xperia Z4 flagship before Q2 draws to a close, we already know some specs from leaked benchmarks, and the overall chassis appearance from a few frames that popped up recently. The Geekbench database, for instance, lists a mysterious Sony device that runs Android 5.0.2 Lollipop, and is powered by an octa-core Qualcomm MSM8994 processor - which is none other than the Snapdragon 810.

Qualcomm already mentioned Sony in a puff piece about the Snapdragon 810 chipset's virtues, so there is every chance that this is what the Xperia Z4 will be using. Famed leakster Ricciolo, however, is tipping that Sony might be looking for engineering solutions to dissipate the arguably significant amount of heat that Snapdragon 810 generates, without compromising the chassis structure of what might be one of the thinnest flagships around when it lands. 

Well, Sony is the company that just gave us the world's thinnest slate - the Xperia Z4 Tablet - and this one is powered by an 810 processor, but, of course, there's much more surface for heat dissipation on a 10" slate than on a compact smartphone. Still, we have a firm belief in Sony's engineering prowess, and can't wait for the final Xperia Z4 design to emerge.

Sony allegedly battling with Snapdragon 810 heat dissipation from the thin Xperia Z4
source: Ricciolo (Twitter)

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posted on 09 Mar 2015, 05:52 6

1. vuyonc (Posts: 990; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


Qualcomm literally has more fires to put out :/

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:31 10

9. cheetah2k (Posts: 1521; Member since: 16 Jan 2011)


Sony should buy some Exynos 7420's .. Just sayin :D

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:29 2

30. Finalflash (Posts: 2791; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)


Really hoping for Samsung and Nvidia to succeed in the smartphone space because QC has sat on their laurels a bit too long now. The only monopoly in the Android space left is the processor space with QC ruling the top while MT fights for the bottom. Can't wait for the processor and GPU space to light up.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 21:17

60. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


What battle?

All of them are using Stock ARM cores.

Don't be excited. They aren't even designing a thing themselves.

The only reason Exynos doesn't have as much heat issues is because they manufacture in 14nm.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 10:47

43. may_czos (Posts: 715; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


That's not going to happen, they need to keep up with their own demand first plus they won't help their competitors.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 12:53

54. adeeb (Posts: 10; Member since: 09 Feb 2015)


That can happen if sony gives better money than Sammys Handset division because at samsung most of the divisions say semiconductor division are independent of other.

posted on 10 Mar 2015, 03:28

66. techperson211 (Posts: 1176; Member since: 27 Feb 2014)


Japan's technology is always top notch not gonna be surprised if they'll pull this off .

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:09 1

17. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


I think I'm going to wait to get any flagship this year... with all the heat issues 810 is having. I know there will be a point that mobile CPU will hit a wall with the speed vs heat struggle. But I'm sure everything will be resolve soon.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:04

35. JunitoNH (Posts: 1651; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


+1 I second that motion, there's no way I'm going to be their beta tester. I'll wait until everyones problems are fixed. Otherwise, I have no problem purchasing last year's flavor. Besides, at least they are waterproof.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 10:55 2

46. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)


well Samsung isn't having any problems lol exynos ftw

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 11:42

48. j2001m (Posts: 2828; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Hm , just buy the s6 or s6 edge as it as the best cpu going all year (to note5 anyways)

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 12:17

53. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


I might wait and see what Note 5 has to offer. It'll be epic :D

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 14:37

56. Btank4evr (Posts: 1; Member since: 09 Mar 2015)


Probably the same design as the S6, but definitely bringing the SD card slot back. Won't be as thin, maybe just as thin as it is now because they also need to put in the S pen in the design.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 21:20

61. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Apple A8 has the best performance per core. And in a dual core config, does not throttle under any circumstances. Even running GFX bench for hours.

Is this the speed vs heat struggle you speak of? Apple already has solved it.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 13:33

55. waddup121 (unregistered)


I'mma just undervolt the s*it out of it when I get my hands on it.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 05:58 4

2. shahrooz (Posts: 712; Member since: 17 Sep 2013)


Fall of the dragon, they better change the name to snaphoenix.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:04 23

4. DanteTheGreat (Posts: 45; Member since: 31 Jul 2014)


Why? Dragons breathe fire, as far I'm concerned they are living up to their name. :D

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:52

39. kerginaldo17 (Posts: 167; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)


That's true.lol

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 11:58

52. bur60 (Posts: 838; Member since: 07 Jul 2014)


Breathing fire is awesome. It shows power. Phoenix is pure fire, itself is in flames. Sounds more like 810 hehe

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:02 7

3. rency0722 (Posts: 155; Member since: 12 Jun 2013)


With the pioneered liquid pipe cooling technology started with the Z2 onwards, I firmly believe Sony can put the fire out of the SD810 with the Z4.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:06 7

5. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


liquid cooling doesn't do any magic and cool the device down. The heat just moves away from processor, it's still inside the device.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:24 2

8. RajRicardo (Posts: 386; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)


Yup. Also it's of no use...my Z3 heats up like hell.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:06 2

16. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1116; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)


Yup my sister's Z2 gets pretty warm as well, maybe he meant actual water cooling like submerging it in water? LOL

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:05

36. JunitoNH (Posts: 1651; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Closed in device, waterproofing. Why many devices are overheating.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:56 6

14. josephnero (Posts: 555; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Z2 is the coolest phone i have ever used coming from S4

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:13 7

19. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


I can confirm that you've used all s**tty phones if Z2 is the coolest you've used. You should use an M8, s5 or note 4. They're cool as a cocumber.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:35 1

23. josephnero (Posts: 555; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


s**tty phones?so you admit S4 was a s**tty phone?and yes i have used many phones before you even became sammy paid troll master

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:45 4

25. TyrionLannister (unregistered)


You should sit on ice. Your a$$ must be burning.

Yes, s4 heats up a lot.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:47 1

33. josephnero (Posts: 555; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


you have been very active this month kid.i hope a good paycheck is coming from sammy.how much do you earn every?10$?

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 11:43 2

49. mngdew (Posts: 5; Member since: 28 Sep 2011)


S5 is one hot cucumber. Whenever I installed a new custom rom, it gets so hot that gives me a pop up message with overheat message.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 21:24

62. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Your Snapdragon devices all heat up because they fooled you into thinking its a new processor inside.

Qualcomm has been using the same high end CPU for over 3 years. Adding cores and clock speed doesn't make it new or better. The architecture is almost identical from Snapdragon S4 Dual Core 1.5ghz to Snapdragon 805.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:14 1

20. jaytai0106 (Posts: 1888; Member since: 30 Mar 2011)


Same here :D but my Z2 does get pretty hot if i used it a lot.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:10 7

6. maherk (Posts: 3464; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)


That waterproof feature will come in handy if those rumors are true, your phone is hot? No problem, give it an icy cold bath.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:57 1

15. romeo1 (Posts: 706; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)


Im not sure but i think the glass can brake because of that.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:21 1

22. Chuck007 (Posts: 1052; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


Omg that's a friggin good one LOL..

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:21 3

7. wattabulb (Posts: 12; Member since: 29 Aug 2012)


SD810 is shaping up to be the next Tegra 3. Poor Qualcomm.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:35 2

10. Sidewinder (Posts: 411; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)


Qualcomm can't catch a break this year.. Don't have high hopes for the sd820 too

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 10:49

44. may_czos (Posts: 715; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


Why? With SD820 they're going back to custom cores, ditching the big.LITTLE architecture and they have a whole year to fight with the heating issues.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 11:46

50. j2001m (Posts: 2828; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


They using 8 cores but there own and if they can not do the basic God help them

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 21:26

63. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


Custom cores change everything son.

Android is in Mobile SoC design purgatory right now. All stock ARM core trash.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:42 1

11. TAMARETTE (Posts: 182; Member since: 15 Jun 2014)


Qualcomm really should be more forthcoming about this. Seems most manufacturers adopting the Snapdragon 810 have this issue, The only one that seems unscathed thusfar is the HTC One M9, and this possibly because of that bulbous back and increased thickness.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:01

34. RajRicardo (Posts: 386; Member since: 28 Feb 2014)


4 SD 810s can make a microwave oven :D

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 11:47

51. j2001m (Posts: 2828; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Note true it as over heating problems if you try to run the beahmarks more then 1 time

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 21:29

64. strudelz100 (Posts: 644; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)


HTC pulls it off because of its all metal design.

METAL > PLASTIC for performance every single time. Metal disperses heat throughout the device.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:46 1

12. yajia1 (Posts: 151; Member since: 22 Aug 2012)


I remember how my HTC One X used to burn with the Tegra 3. They died after that. Will Qualcomm have the same fate with the 810? Hope not. When my Z3C heats up, i just wash it.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 06:52 2

13. sram145 (Posts: 127; Member since: 18 Dec 2014)


thats fine. Since i guess Z4 will come with a water proof, i guess i can this use as water heater. nice add on feature :P

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:13

18. josephnero (Posts: 555; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)


Can't wait for Z4.flagship of the year

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:21 1

21. sam3k (Posts: 103; Member since: 02 May 2013)


I think they should go with the samsung made exynos.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:37 1

24. Supraman21 (Posts: 314; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)


The whole gear fate is the biggest reason why I'm probably gonna go Samsung this round.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 07:58

26. InspectorGadget80 (unregistered)


Just hope they won't use the 810 chip plan on buying the Z4

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:08

27. Simona (unregistered)


When those smartphone manuf. Will realuse that SHTdragon is the WORST SoC ?????

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:22 1

28. TheGunnyPT (Posts: 252; Member since: 12 Feb 2015)


Qualccom is really being hard with the 810 overheating...

If things keep up like this (not just in terms of overheating, but of also Samsung being in from of them right now)

They might lose some of the OEMS next year, imagine if people would go with Samsung own Exynos or if somehow they went with Mediatek.

Could see a huge change next year if Qualccom f* it up.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:28 1

29. delta (Posts: 31; Member since: 29 Jan 2015)


Phonearena speech: "premium, thinner, premium feel, thin, more thinner, premium materials. ....."
BULLs**t, give me sd card reader and removable battery all over thinner , "premium fee" and overheating issues.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:37 1

31. Be_Mine (Posts: 56; Member since: 29 Dec 2013)


Why thin? Why not a bit thicker with larger battery capacity?

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 10:53

45. may_czos (Posts: 715; Member since: 22 Nov 2014)


Because it won't sell as a premium device.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 14:51

57. Suo.Eno (Posts: 489; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)


Says most MARKETING people for OEMs. Not focus groups if there's any to begin with.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 08:43 2

32. iialparslan (Posts: 17; Member since: 13 Dec 2014)


Who need a new phone if you have a Xperia Z2/Z3?

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:13 1

38. Genza (Posts: 537; Member since: 12 Mar 2014)


Many people who still using 2012 flagship

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:09

37. JunitoNH (Posts: 1651; Member since: 15 Feb 2012)


Qualcomm should placed a news add for better testers. Oh...wait, they don't need to pay, why they have all the new flagship owners for.

posted on 09 Mar 2015, 09:57

40. dufis (Posts: 47; Member since: 27 Jun 2014)


i have new z3c and it burns my hads then i surfing web or waching youtube,then using camera it hoting wery fast,i dont like it,i fink i newer by anawer phone from sony.

ps i like my alld moto g it dosnt hot at all,i can play deadtriger2,asphalt8,play youtube,and no hoting isuses,best phone in prise range.

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