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Sony Honami and its 20-megapixel camera detailed: smaller sensor than originally thought

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Sony Honami and its 20-megapixel camera detailed: smaller sensor than originally thought
The Sony i1 Honami, the expected flagship successor to the Xperia Z, is likely not to have a sensor as large as the one on the Nokia Lumia 1020. Despite that, the Honami allegedly exists and people close to Sony have already seen the device and first sample images shot on a prototype. How do they look? Expectations are that Sony will deliver this time and the samples spurred hope that the Honami could blow all existing Android smartphones and be neck to neck with the Lumia 1020.

The Sony Honami is said to be slightly larger, but still fairly similar to the Xperia Z: the new flagship would be 4mm taller and 2mm wider, but just as thin. The Honami will feature the familiar magnetic dock for the new type of docks Sony has that will obviously become universal. The bottom is once again confirmed to be fully occupied by the speaker grills? Sounds familiar? That fits exactly the leaked images we saw more than two weeks ago (find them right below).

The new details touch on the 20-megapixel f/2.0 camera with 5mm focal length. Xenon flash is unlikely and ISO could go up to as much 1600. The actual resolution of images is 5248 x 3936 pixels.

The disappointing news is about the sensor size. The latest whispers decry earlier rumors about the Honami matching the ⅔” sensor on the Lumia 1020. It is now said to feature a smaller, 1/2.3” sensor. The size of the camera sensor, the photosensitive element behind the camera’s eye, is quintessential to image quality. A smaller sensor collects less light and this makes it less suitable for low-light imagery.

Sony Honami might have a 1/2.3 sensor

Sony Honami might have a 1/2.3 sensor


The camera will work with BIONZ image processing engine that runs on top of the Qualcomm Krait processor. That specific processing for images will only be available via the built-in CyberShot camera app.

Below are impressions from the source who has seen the first sample images taken on a prototype:

now based on the early sample image that I saw, full res output @ISO100 reveals lots of detail comparable (take note, not better or anything superior) with the old RX100 with minimal loss of detail at ISO400, though at ISO800 and 1600 the image is flooded with Luminance and chroma noise with visible color blotches plaguing the image but someof the small details that I've seen visible with the ISO400 sample are preserved, bokeh effect is virtually similar to 1020's. as you guys would know, I posted my thoughts on Honami's ISO1600 performance relative to RX100's on the previous page before I got my hands on the sample, but now I have to say that RX100 @ISO1600+ is virtually untouchable at any rate. I can't comment on how it fares against 1020, but think they'll be neck and neck when comparing their full resolution outputs. one more thing, the samples exhibited some corners softening but barrel distortion is handled pretty well (could be due to image processor just like how it's usually corrected on compact cameras).

Now compared with all smartphone cameras available 808/1020s aside, Honami's camera performance will wipe the competition including S4 zoom and the old Galaxy Camera IMHO. but I advice we keep our expectations low, 1020's biggest weapon is the oversampling, and I think Sony has nothing to counter against that, so the competition boils down on which camera delivers better per pixel detail at full resolution. and as of this moment, I'm not sure who's got the upper hand to be honest. besides the sample images that I've seen with my eyes are based on pre production software, so we can't rule out the possibility that the JPEG engine will be better.


Take into account that all this is still rumors based on insider’s information. Sony could make changes in the final product and it likely will. Still, it seems that we already have a pretty good understanding of the general outline of the Honami, don’t you think?

source: Esato

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posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:14 35

1. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4163; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Oops, those expecting the Honami to be a Lumia 1020 killer is going to be disappointed!!

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:17 17

3. ihatesmartphone (unregistered)


Nope
They are not :)

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:32 10

8. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


Okay, Lumia 1020 wins.
Putting sensor size aside, no Xenon flash as well. If i want to add in more, ISO up to 1600? Lumia 92X (with Amber update) and 1020 go up to 3200, although i never use more than ISO600 on a phone or photos get too noisy.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 04:47 17

15. cam-whore (Posts: 164; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


they already are...

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:23 7

29. Kurai (unregistered)


The honami will be par with nokia 1020 but i doubt honami will kill 1020 in terms of camera . . . but 1020 against honami overall? LOL . . . talk about dual core and one of the worst battery life. nokia L920's battery is more worse than the Z

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:25 1

30. vandroid (Posts: 339; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


There's no garuntee yet but its very likely Sony could have a trick up their sleeve, we'll have to wait and see but until then the lumia 1020 is the smartphone camera king

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:33 3

33. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


These are all just rumours
honami will pack 1/1.6 sensor as illustrated before by vr zone
And i dont think , sony will ruin or let down its cybershot name if its a cybershot branded phone as k800i and others in past

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:34 6

34. Nathan_ingx (Posts: 4163; Member since: 07 Mar 2012)


Until the official launch and review of the phone, i'll remain skeptical. But that doesn't mean Sony cannot bring something new and awe inspiring to it's camera. They have that capacity...everyone knows it. They just have to put more effort into it.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:35 4

35. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


Windows phone in general, if battery life is bad it's the apps at fault, those poorly written and optimized apps. Whatsapp on windows phone is utter garbage (i dont use it anyway, regardless of what OS im using for a phone), and some other causes battery drain just by having its specific live tile active on the homepage.

My Lumia 920 i can get 1-2days of usage easily, 1 whole day with data on is no problem. Battery drain did happen but improved after a couple of updates, and i got rid of offending apps. Even some 3rd party battery level-monitoring and charting apps causes drain.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:37

36. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


Right
Everything is just a rumour
Let us wait for an official announcement

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:38

38. vandroid (Posts: 339; Member since: 04 Sep 2012)


I'm taking this all with a grain of salt and waiting impatiently for the unveiling

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:38 1

39. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


In my opinion it is impossible to pack in 1/1.6 if the camera is at the top corner and yet maintain a Xperia Z-like thickness, instead of somewhere in the middle. There simply isnt enough space for it. 1/2.3 is more of the size found in lower end point and shoots. Still bigger than those in smartphones though (1/3 to 1/3,2).

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:39 8

41. dan86 (Posts: 298; Member since: 17 Mar 2012)


Nokia Lumia 1020 is pure evil, which can tame the baddest of all. SONY i1 alias Honami barely would survive its blow smacked straight on face.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:41

42. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


The leak image can also be xperia z running sd800 processor
so all we can do is just wait for it

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 05:43

43. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


The more excitement grows
The more famous this honami gets

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:13

53. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


iso 3200 wont get noisy on lumia 1020. :P

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:17 1

54. muhsen (Posts: 281; Member since: 07 Jun 2012)


worst battery life? ...I have a 920 and my father has an xperia z ....my 920 wins in battery life with a respectable margin
not to mention crappy screen (its horrible , just a slight tilt will not make u see what's in the xperia z's screen) compared to the 920's awesome clearblack display (this beats any phone screen) I have ever seen in the sun light )and its awesome viewing angles.
besides what's point of more than duel core when every heavy game on wp store runs better on the high end wp dvices than many quadcore android phones.
I played N.O.V.A.3 on the both the 920 and the xperia z and there's very very slight stutter from time to time(like once per day and just for sec or sth and its hardly noticeable ) on the xperia z while there wasn't any on the 920( the difference in performance between the two phones is barely noticeable) but still that means that it runs smoother (even if very marginally) on the 920...so again what's the point of bragging about very powerful hardware if everything runs just as smooth (if not better) on duelcore wp's ? actually that puts points on wp's side on against it

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:19

55. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


and then they say "this xperia honami will put sony's RX1 sensor in it!!!"

haha

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:19 3

56. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)


this guy didnt even read the article, and he says honami will be disappointment.
a person who had hands on experience is clearly stating that image processor puts honami on par with lumia 1020.
sure lumia is ahead with over sampling pictures at 38mp but i have never printed a poster from any picture i took from my phone nor i plan to do that in future.
at most i upload at google plus which only accepts 8mp.
dont use facebook/twitter but for people that do, it only has 5mp capability so keep that in mind when thinking of all these high specs camera.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:21 1

57. james004 (Posts: 486; Member since: 15 May 2013)


da fak is wrong with your people. iso 3200? :/ have you even taken picture with that rate? lumia already has slow shutter rate add this iso. forget using your phone for next 20 seconds.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:24 1

58. Feanor (Posts: 817; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)


I don't understand why people are so intend in comparing this forthcoming Sony with the Lumia 1020. The 1020 is quite a dedicated cameraphone with no-compromises camera tech and a considerable hump. I think the Honami is supposed to be a general flagship intend on taking on the Galaxy S4 and the iPhone and quite abit thinner. I think Sony want to improve on the camera department enough to make it a very capable shooter but no 1020 competitor.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:28

60. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)


then why do cameras have option for 3200? they have the xenon flash, lens optics and mechanical shutter.

1020 got them too.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:29 3

61. SakuroAkino (banned) (Posts: 141; Member since: 12 Jul 2013)


Honami will have awesome camera for sure
no doubt in that
Those u r babbling about nokia nokia and coming here in sony's article are sure haters and dont want sony to revive cybershot era

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:31

63. belovedson (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)


so comparing a shot from a dslr against a phone camera is a fair comparison?

camera phone serves really two functions: to work as a phone and two to replace a point and click and now it appears may start fizzling out zoom out cameras

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:39

65. amiroo (Posts: 269; Member since: 03 Sep 2012)


sony 20 megapixel = 12 megapixel
nokia 8 megapixel = 12 megapixel

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:44

67. x_maly_x (Posts: 72; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)


My Lumia 920 i can get 2-5days of usage (5 if I only call or text)

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:46

69. tashreef (Posts: 476; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)


they need some exceptionaly good engineers, like Nokia..... sony camera division can only make good sensors... how to make them perfect on a smartphone is up to sony mobile

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 06:58 1

73. pyradark (Posts: 876; Member since: 10 Jun 2012)


yup 1020 wins in camera, but on overall phone
Sony honami wins, even 1020 cant survive underwater

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 07:09

74. EXkurogane (Posts: 863; Member since: 07 Mar 2013)


i just mentioned i use only up to 600 on a phone, as for ISO3200, yes, you do need that much especially in DSLRs. Ever wondered why DSLRs have ISO up to 12800, and expandable up to an ISO of 25600? I personally dont go that high (pumping up ISO blindly is something that amateurs do), but some people do use that high.

posted on 15 Jul 2013, 07:26

75. oister85 (Posts: 501; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)


So this phone is supposed to be a camera phone but I don't see the phone to be bulky.if Sony manage to deliver a good picture quality.the next big thing is here.

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