Samsung's first AMOLED Quad HD display gets analyzed: further improved color accuracy, not that green any more
AnandTech is now the first to analyze the colors of the Galaxy S5 LTE-A’s 5.1-inch Quad HD display, and the results show continuous improvements in AMOLED.
We've already talked about the difference in sharpness between a Quad HD 1440p and a Full HD 1080p display, and how it’s practically insignificant unless you stare at the screen from microscopic distances. What we’re much more interested, though, is color accuracy.
However, Samsung has seemingly made some improvements in the GS5 LTE-A, so the screen does not appear that green-ish. The key word here is ‘that green-ish’, as while there is improvement, the first analysis shows that green still dominates other colors.
Notice the green bar in upper right on both charts - the Quad HD AMOLED (on the right) is better balanced than the very green-ish 1080p AMOLED on the Galaxy S5 (on the left, in Cinema mode)
For all else, white point is even closer to our reference point (of 6500K) at 6429K, and grayscale accuracy is the best of any other flagship smartphone. Moreover, color saturations are also very accurate, with deviation of as little as 2.92.
Obviously, the power consumption of a Quad HD display will be higher, but for all else, it seems that Samsung has made AMOLED even better in its new version, and we’re looking forward to seeing it in upcoming devices like the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and the rumored Galaxy F.
Samsung's first AMOLED Quad HD display gets analyzed
1. Saturation sweeps: notice how the colors are almost always right inside the square where they have to be. Only greens are slightly oversaturated.
2. Notice that greens are still a bit overblown in the RGB color balance charts, the display would still appear slightly greenish.
3. Color accuracy: close to perfect
1. ydl08 (Posts: 23; Member since: 01 Nov 2013)
So is Samsung the King of Screens?
LG G3 is QHD just like the Galaxy S5 LTEA
Every report shows different results i don't even know what to believe anymore
i'll just believe my own eyes.
3. Victor.H (Posts: 450; Member since: 27 May 2011)
Put simply, for most people it should still appear green-ish and LCD displays on phones like the iPhone 5 and HTC M8 should have slightly more appealing visuals. It's better than the S5, but Samsung still has to balance out the colors (color accuracy is already nearly perfect).
We'll give you our detailed analysis as soon as we have the display in our own labs, which should happen in the near future, so stay tuned.
7. amiaq (Posts: 495; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)
hey! just put simply "your opinion" rather than "most people". What evidence do you have? Unless you are "Prof Charles Francis Xavier".
16. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Nice to hear Samsung is improving OLED based displays. Hope that one day other big OLED problems will be solved also.
25. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 4332; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yes I agree. These improvements are breathtaking. The level of improvement from the Original Galaxy S to these new Super AMOLED's are staggering.
I am completely stoked about a Water/Dust proof Galaxy Note 4 with this insane technologicaly impressive 5.7 inch 1440p Super AMOLED display.
27. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Samsung has improved how OLED is used in displays. In other words Samsung has improved display's technology. But it would be nice if Samsung could improve and OLED technology by it self. Because biggest AMOLED problems lies in OLED technology.
30. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
You better worry , when you will have such great displays on your iphones iboy'
Hiding behind this avatar to bash Samsung , doesn't help you. LOL
50. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
As a Samsung fan you are putting Samsung to the shame.
23. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1040; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
That Ray S. makes one of the worst reviews I have ever seen it´s something I have come to expect.
That you quote him on it it´s really dissapointing.
The issue with the "greenish" screen is related to the fact that Ray S. decided to test the GS5 with the default mode ("Standard") instead of the one that has the greater color accuracy: "Cinema mode".
Any other site is reporting great color accuracy in the screen (better than most LCDs), including several with more experice in displays, like Anandtech, Displaymate and Gsmarena.
So that you see I´m not bluffing I let you the links:
If I were you I would correct yours and Ray´s posts in a exercise of profesionalism.
I would have contated you anonymously, but there is no button to correct the posts.
26. josephnero (Posts: 325; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
Anandtech never said S5 Amoled is accurate.they said the opposite
29. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1040; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
Funny, that´s not how I understand this sentence:
"Overall, I’m quite pleased with the display. The AMOLED display in the Galaxy S5 is finally equivalent to LCD displays in color accuracy and peak luminance, areas that LCD used to be the best in."
Not to talk about the White Point average of 6541 and not 8183 like phonearena reports (best result is 6500)
32. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
What you expect from iAnand? He is pathetic, and lose the trust of the ppl. He loves iphone old tech display.(or Apples money)
Read Display Mate.
35. Ashoaib (Posts: 2371; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
true... I dont trust anand tech... they sound unreal sometime
24. jdoee100 (Posts: 307; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
At first it was the brightness, then the color accuracy, and now it's the green tint. What next? Blacks are too black? Too sharp? Too perfect?? LOL Can't wait for next excuse.
42. hung2900 (Posts: 815; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
The greenish of PA's unit is due to the quality variance issue, It's a faulty unit. Most Galaxy S5s don't have that greenish issue,
31. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Well, iAnand didn't miss to bash Samsung even now. LOL
See what iAnand will write about iPhone6 obsolete display tech.
2. Heatfan316 (Posts: 445; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
I guess the note 4 will put all other phones to shame.
4. tech2 (Posts: 2327; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Props to Samsung for developing this technology and just in few years surpassing a technology that was developed 40 years ago. Take a bow !
p.s. Come on Erica Griffin, review the damn display of GS5-A LTE already!
5. _Bone_ (Posts: 2137; Member since: 29 Oct 2012)
The best thing is, while the G3 QHD loses about 30-40% brightness and draws just as much more power due to the way IPS subpixels are being lit, according to PocketNow, the S5 LTEA with the QHD has the exact same long battery life as the S5 FHD, which justifies the higher resolution panel. And that is with twice as many pixels and beefier specs. Simply put, AMOLED gets ahead the tighter subpixels get.
10. networkdood (Posts: 6305; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
odd that you say that the G3 loses 30-40% brightness - my G3 is soooo damn bright, that I turn it down - my last battery charge lasted 24hrs for me....
22. DillWeed (Posts: 81; Member since: 14 Mar 2014)
Well it's the truth, you not liking the data does not change the reality.
36. wildfiregt (Posts: 102; Member since: 10 Jun 2013)
But actually it is less bright than the S5
6. derivativex (Posts: 91; Member since: 15 Jul 2014)
Samsung has always had great screens in both smartphones and tablets haven't seen the tab s screen yet but I'm assuming it's just as great as my note 3's
8. Felix_Gatto (Posts: 544; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)
C'mon Samsung, only 3 things that can boost further their sales:
1.Put S-AMOLED to low-mid range Galaxy.
2.Use at least Snapdragon 200(Cortex-A7/Adreno 302 variant) on low end Galaxies instead of crappy unknown single core chipset and also WVGA display instead of HVGA.
3.Make an innovative and distinctive design on Galaxy smartphones.
11. networkdood (Posts: 6305; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
Yeah, they have too many models out there....
13. Jinto (Posts: 402; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
They should keep the Galaxy name for either flagships or non-flagships, not for all their androids, people think that a "Galaxy" is a cheap laggy phone
12. Loubielou (Posts: 238; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
If Samsung wanted this one on the First Galaxy S5 Why?couldn"t the Galaxy S5 been delayed until the Screens were in Full Production,Samsung do not seem to thing about consumers who have invested into the Galaxy S5 an some will be very angry been let down by them
21. Jinto (Posts: 402; Member since: 15 Jan 2014)
Look at the # of Galaxy S5 units sold right now, Samsung is better off as a company because of that
15. Settings (Posts: 583; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)
Let me quote from the overall result in a recently posted screen comparison test;
"The screens of the LG G3 and Galaxy S5 are the ones that remain slightly behind those of their opponents. The main problem for the G3 is the slightly worse outdoor visibility, while the Galaxy S5 suffers from inaccurate color balance."
And quote from this article
"The Samsung Galaxy S5 was calibrated very well with color saturations nicely spaced and the white point hitting a point close to the industry’s 6500K ideal (a temperature that hits the right balance - not too cold, nor too warm)."
The screen test, S5 got lower scores epecially in the color accuracy scores while in this article they claim S5 got the best screens. Undoubtedly, S5 really has awesome screen but why did PA aint got no word of honour. Undecided if S5 has really have the best screen? Did someone missed the memo on what should be the best screen?
20. Awalker (Posts: 537; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Samsung is not looking for color accuracy. It's more about being visually appealing than being accurate.
38. tedkord (Posts: 5105; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Sure they are, and they achieved it. The most accurate colors of any smartphone or tablet ever tested by displaymate.
17. derivativex (Posts: 91; Member since: 15 Jul 2014)
Because a great screen is just more than accuracy of colors what about contrast and great viewing angles I think most people will notice lcd screens look washed out in terms of colors next to super amoled the choice is yours of u like the punchy colors or not. How about viewing fhd videos on these android phones with 1080p screens or higher and compare it to a non hd screen like the 5s and can they honestly say the bids look better on the 5s screen?
18. refillable (Posts: 652; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Inaccurate doesn't equal bad for most people. I wonder what actually encouragre them to be so strict about accuracy? I think the S5 definitely has one of the most practical displays we've seen so far.
33. AliNSiddiqui (Posts: 381; Member since: 19 Sep 2012)
This isn't about accuracy. Besides, how do you know what "most people" prefer?
44. refillable (Posts: 652; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Well I was referring to PA statements that ranted all the time on accuracy. I can easily tell because almost everyone don't care about colour accuracy.
46. avalon2105 (Posts: 100; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
Still there are people who do care about color accuracy. If you don't care about color accuracy good for you, but then someone can say they don't care about "true blacks", viewing angles, punchy colors etc. Display needs to tick all the boxes if it is to be called the most accurate.And Samsung was marketing S5's display as most accurate which it clearly isn't. If they were marketing it as best mobile display or something it would be okay since their sales numbers would back up that story.
48. refillable (Posts: 652; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Well when the displays are one of the most practical displays out there, I don't know why most people would care that much with Colour accuracy as much as PA addressed. I mean, I am not in sheer denial that AMOLEDs were not colour accurate, but I never agreed with PA who always mark S5's displays bad (Worst out of the flagships) just because of Colour accuracy.
49. avalon2105 (Posts: 100; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
Maybe not the worst, but color accuracy is not it's only problem. All the other screens are much sharper due to full RGB matrix while S5 has Pen-Tile, also it is noticeably dimmer than likes of M8, G2 or 5s, they all have cca: 650-700 nits of brightness while S5 can output barely 440 nits on full white background. I personally only care about 3 aspects of display quality, sharpness for obvious reasons, color accuracy to see content the way it was intended (and not to see green tigers) and maximum brightness for outdoor visibility. If you take those into account S5 would be the worst and I guess that PA has similar priorities. On the other hand, is Samsung puts AMOLED sign on a piece of sh.it GSMArena will claim it "The best display there ever was". In the end you shouldn't trust either, but check the phone for yourself and see if it "rocks your boat".
52. refillable (Posts: 652; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
'All other screens are much sharper due to full RGB Matrix', sharper, true, but 'Much sharper'? No. I do not see any sharpness difference unless I pay a very close attention of those AMOLEDs and LCDs. You could however back up your claim with a suitable evidence/proof.
'Noticeably dimmer', since I only care about outdoor visibility I won't really take this as an issue (As you know, Outdoor visibility is something to be desired with AMOLEDs, stated by PA earlier). But even if I or other people take a very important attention towards brightness I wouldn't say it is Noticeably dimmer. Both PA (http://www.phonearena.com/revi
ews/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Review_id3639) and gsmarena (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsun g_galaxy_s5-review-1064p3.php) does not state that there are a big difference in terms of brightness. Both are from the reviewers whom you take attention to.
So IMHO, not as bad as you described.
Excuse me on #44 however, I was too sleepy and wrote that claim. You could probably tell by my incorrect grammatical construction.
53. avalon2105 (Posts: 100; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
For "sharpness test" it is best to take two phones, one Pen-Tile, one RGB with same size and resolution (like S4 and M8) and open same webpage with lot of small text if possible through same browser (like Chrome) to eliminate browsers text rendering as variable. I did it last year with S4 and Z1, and Z1 looked much sharper TO ME.
On brightness front, S5 has max brightness of 529 nits (according to GSMA, PA rates it at 440 nits) while G2 has 667 nits of brightness. I don't know about you, but I would say 138 nits of difference (or 26% if you use S5s brightness as 100%) is noticeable difference.
In the end I said it is bad in my experience (bad for my needs). Someone will consider it the best screen for deeper black levels or better viewing angles.
In the end, regardless of numbers posted by any review site, when I compared S5 with my G2, G2 looked much brighter and much sharper when displaying fine text. I do a lot of web browsing (mainly white backgrounds) and my theme/setup is always white/light so AMOLED would look bad and loose its advantage in battery consumption.
54. refillable (Posts: 652; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
The only bright screen here is the G2, and it's basically the best LCD out there (shame to what happened on the G3 however). The others are pretty much close (does not exceed the 15%) mark.
I am not sure about how you translate sharpness, but I don't really want to agree with you... I don't See any Meaningful difference at all when Comparing those two types of displays.
55. avalon2105 (Posts: 100; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
Like I said, my preferences are my own, and nobody should trust me or reviewer blindly. Since it is only a way I use to measure display sharpness I put sharpness test into quotation marks.
You said it right in "I am not sure how you translate sharpness", since there in no measuring unit saying this display is 1,4XYZ sharp and other one is 1,6XYZ. There is PPI, but it doesn't tell you the whole story since stuff like different matrices can influence it.
And G2 is certainly not the only bright LCD display, iPhone 5 has 640 nits and M7 (in one of my previous post I put M8 by mistake) has 647 nits. And if we are going to compare the best of AMOLED it is only fair to compare it to best LCD displays out there, and not the likes of Xperia Z or similar.
56. refillable (Posts: 652; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Different matrices can actually matter or not in terms of sharpness. And IMHO in this case it is mostly not. But I don't want to really claim something just yet, Just as of now I am not seeing any differences between them, therefore I question your observations.
As for the brightness, You are right. But I would point out that against current flagships, Samsung is the only very few that actually improves it's brightness.
Oh yes, as Post note I actually would choose LCDs over AMOLEDs (Hence my favourite are the G2's display and I actually want LCDs to be better), but I can clearly see that AMOLEDs are chasing really fast. They are improving it's strength while addressing their weakness very well. Hence, I could easily say that it's very practical as of now.
19. twens (Posts: 695; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)
Don't mind them. They are just haters and envious of AMOLED TECH. aside samsung and AMOLED which LCD do you see continued improvements? LCD has been stacked at where they are for years now. Same old washed out colors and viewing angles. Nobody complains about them because it will hurt sales of apple since they also use such screen tech. If apple used AMOLED it would have been the best screen of all time for tech sites. Biased hypocritical people. It's so annoying
28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5493; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
Not true! You should read more technical literature.
34. avalon2105 (Posts: 100; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
I admit I was often the first one to sh** on anything AMOLED related but those screens are starting to look good even in my book. If only Samsung could find a way to use RGB matrix instead of Pen-Tile, and increase brightness without additional battery drain it would be awesome. Still the screen on S5 looks terribly dim to me compared to good LCD screen. On a side note, why are people so anal about viewing angles, what is a benefit of having better viewing angles when you always look at your phone dead on? I understand why is it important for TVs and monitors that are pretty much stationary/unmovable but you can always shift your wrist couple degrees to get perfect image on a phone.
39. tedkord (Posts: 5105; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
There's not a screen tech out there that doesn't use more power to be brighter.
40. avalon2105 (Posts: 100; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)
I've probably phrased that one wrong. What I mainly meant was that LCD has similar energy consumption regardless of color being shown but AMOLED just goes full retard when trying to display white color. That is also one thing that bugs me about battery tests. They say "Samsung Galaxy S5 plays video for x amount of hours" without mentioning what video. Again, on LCD it doesn't matter much but on AMOLED it clearly matters are you watching Batman Trilogy of some documentary about Antarctica. What I would like to see is AMOLED displaying white without any tint and without using "fuel" like Hummer H2. Hopefully, you'll realize what I was trying to say even if my English is kind of bad.
37. jsdechavez (Posts: 708; Member since: 20 Jul 2012)
Back then it was blue-ish...now greenish. What next? Red?
41. rency0722 (Posts: 68; Member since: 12 Jun 2013)
How about Japan Display's AMOLED with RGBW pixels?
45. fzacek (Posts: 2081; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
It isn't true QHD resolution with that Pentile arrangement...
57. AndyG (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)
I prefer oled over lcd any day. What I don't understand is, if Samsung can build a Quad HD RGBG screen, why can't they build a Full HD RGB screen? Wasn't the problem in 2011-2012 getting the blue subpixels small enough for long term reliability? Maybe the Sony Z3 will have the RGBW TriMaster Oled display. If Samsung or Sony (or anyone really) would build a IGZO OLED with RGB, that's what I would like to see.
58. AndyG (Posts: 2; Member since: 29 Aug 2014)
Oh, but until I can get an RGB OLED display, I'm going with IPS LCD. The colos are just too much better.