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Samsung Galaxy S5 rumored to arrive with 4 GB of RAM, made possible by the 64-bit Exynos

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Samsung Galaxy S5 rumored to arrive with 4 GB of RAM, made possible by the 64-bit Exynos
South Korean IT publication once again reiterates that Samsung's 64-bit Exynos processor is in final stages of preparation before it enters the production line. This time a new nugget of info is added, though, namely that the new Exynos might be known as the 6-series, to differentiate from the Exynos 5 Octa chipset we have now that is a 5-series representative, and at the same time hint at the 64-bit nature of the upcoming mobile silicon.

There is one other claim in the article, and it's a pretty significant one - the 64-bit architecture will allow addressing much larger RAM quantities, and that's exactly what Samsung is planning to take advantage of. The source mentions that not only is the next edition Galaxy S5 going to be blessed with the 64-bit Exynos in question, but it will also sport 4 GB of RAM, marking a new record for a smartphone. This will undoubtedly set it apart from the competition for the foreseeable future, if it pans out, be it just for bragging rights. 

We are just curious whether Samsung will continue with the tradition to launch its flagship with different processors, depending on the market, as the gap from an eventual Exynos 6-series and 4 GB of RAM in the Galaxy S5 to any other chipset configuration for the handset seems pretty wide for potential customers to stomach.

source: DT.co.kr via TheDroidGuy

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posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:16 47

1. D.Aceveda (Posts: 359; Member since: 30 Jun 2012)


Ah yes. A 64 bit chip that would actually be useful and not a marketing gimmick unlike this other company out there. I won't name names

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:23 29

10. SAYED-EJAZ (Posts: 220; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)


SAMSUNG'S GALAXY SERIES BREAKING EVERYTHING , LOVE SAMSUNG ;)
We must remember there are no phones even with 3GB Ram , Samsung is LONG ahead in the MOBILE INDUSTRY , THE UNDISPUTED KING !!!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:20 7

48. bodzio1809 (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


Hahaha you made my day :D I like to see comments like yours, of Samsung worshipers. I got S3 now and I really like Amoled screen, but TW is so bad that I needed to install Nova. Also device looks like chineese toy. I saw S4 on real and it looks much worse than S3. Good luck with fill 2GB of ram. You can do it only when u want to make a test. So 3 and more GB ram on phone is a gimmick.

Samsung is long ahead in mobile industry? hahaha. The only thing they done good is Amoled screens. Exynos Octa is much worse than S600/S800 in battery life and heating. It's Samsung fail of the year.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:28 17

56. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7674; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Just like everyone said 720 and 1080p were gimmicks? How dual core and quad core SoC were gimmicks?

Your hate for Samsung is strong to where you need to see a psychiatrist.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:41 5

62. bodzio1809 (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


LoL i hurt your feelings? I like Samsung for amoled screens and I am waiting for S5 and I hope it finally will look good with better build quality materials. In my opionion 1080p for 5' or less is gimmick. Dual core and quad core is not a gimmick, but it all depends on how you will use it :)

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:18 10

75. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7674; Member since: 14 May 2012)


Trust me, you're going to have to try a lot harder bud. ;)

Build quality is so overblown due to the fact that almost everyone puts a case on their phones, whether it's an iPhone or a HTC phone.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:34 5

82. JC557 (Posts: 938; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Not really when it comes to HTC or Nokia handsets. A lot of people use those devices without a case and is quite understandable.

I haven't needed a case for my Incredible, Thunerbolt or Rezound, though the Thunderbolt did have a cheap silicon case around it... until I realised it didn't really do much since the phone was pretty solid on its own.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:47

88. bodzio1809 (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


I just see a lot of Samsung fanboys here. HTC look good and got really great looking launcher(still i preffer quick toggles and app switcher from Samsung), but they fu*ked up camera. I am not considering iPhone due to small screen, no filemanager etc.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:43 1

104. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5587; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)


More features are invariably better. Especially when the new features improve the user experience with the phone. Speed or more computationally challenging features that are presented to the user in real time raise the bar for everyone.

I suspect there will be a Snapdragon SoC ith 64-bit support and 4Gb of RAM in the not-too-distant future.

Android leads the way....

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 13:11 4

108. DukeX (Posts: 327; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


Why do Samsung haters have Samsung phones!?

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:32 4

81. MrsPotatoHead (banned) (Posts: 48; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


That just aint true. I tried one of them Samsung Galaxy 4's the other day and I gotta admit that it was much smoother than my iPhone. If this here rumor about 4 gigabites of that ram stuff is true then Ill just wait. I was gonna get me an iPad air but the mere fact that it only have 1 gigabite is a turn off. Im just tired of having to change every year, I doesn't mind changin every 2 or 3 years but dag on this just gettin stupid. So if the Galaxy 5 have 4 gigabites and all that other stuff Im just gonna wait and switch. Besides I really want a bigger screen now because its gettin harder and harder for me to see this damn screen and type on it.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:47 4

87. akki20892 (Posts: 3300; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


True, amoled on s4 is yellowish, actually my htc one have true colors and clear display.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:30 2

96. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You should really stop talking since you clearly don't know what you're taking about. You will never fill the ram, since android dynamically flushes programs out of ram as needed.

You can fill 3gb and 4gb just as readily as 2gb due to Android multitasking. Apps are stored in ram after you close them so they're quicker to open next time. More ram just means more apps can be stored without needing to flush them.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:35

97. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You really need to stop talking, because you obviously have no clue what your talking about.

You can fill 3gb or 4gb of ram just as readily as 1gb or 2gb, because of the way Android multitasks. Apps are stored in ram after you close them so they're ready to go next time you call them. Once ran starts filling up, Android flushes those apps to make room for new ones based on certain criteria. The more ram you have, the more apps can be left ready to go, less flushing needed, fewer reads from the slower flash memory, better performance.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:45 7

65. Shatter (Posts: 1984; Member since: 29 May 2013)


"there are no phones even with 3GB Ram"

Note 3 says hello. (it has 3GB DDR3)

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:54 6

68. SAYED-EJAZ (Posts: 220; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)


i mean for other OEMs doesn't have.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:01 3

32. Ninetysix (Posts: 1461; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)


LOL..would have saved yourself from looking like a fool if only you read the Anandtech article....oh well. Better luck next time eh?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4

"Apple isn’t very focused on delivering a larger memory address space today however. As A64 is a brand new ISA, there are other benefits that come along with the move. Similar to the x86-64 transition, the move to A64 comes with an increase in the number of general purpose registers. ARMv7 had 15 general purpose registers (and 1 register for the program counter), while ARMv8/A64 now has 31 that are each 64-bits wide. All 31 registers are accessible at all times. Increasing the number of architectural registers decreases register pressure and can directly impact performance. The doubling of the register space with x86-64 was responsible for up to a 10% increase in performance."

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:07 1

35. bodzio1809 (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


I am not fan of iOS. I preffer Android, but when I see comments like this one I want just to laugh. It all depends on Google, not Samsung. Apple can make phone and os on 64bit, Samsung can't. Also 4GB ram is too big for a phone. I preffer bigger battery than 4GB ram that I will never use. In my opinion 3 and more ram in a phone is gimmcik. Still I am waiting for S5 and I hope they finaly will go with better build materials.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:13 5

38. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Yes, Samsung can. That's how Android works. Every time Samsung releases an Android phone it's with a modified version of Android. You or I could put out a 64bit version of Android if we wanted.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:23

51. bodzio1809 (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


They can't rewrite the os. You just can't modify launcher and get 64 bit system. It all depends on Google.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:28 4

55. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


The don't just modify the launcher. Samsung modifies the entire framework. And yes, they can modify the JIT compiler and Dalvik to 64bit. Android is open source, anyone can modify it sent way they like.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:09

70. bodzio1809 (Posts: 65; Member since: 28 Aug 2013)


Maybe you are right :) We will see.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:41 1

83. JC557 (Posts: 938; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Umm... you haven't been keeping up with current processes have you? 4GB of RAM can be made pretty darn small and not like a DIMM you'd find in a desktop or laptop. The process of making RAM has shrunk to the point where each chip can be quite dense and use less power than the previous generation, even in dual channel configs and even triple channel if they were so inclined (though in a Note 3 body w/ slightly less battery capacity).

Secondly, more RAM and 64-bit means the phone can be easily upgraded to the next generation of the Android OS + TouchWiz. Things may be 32-bit today but what happens when it comes time to switch to 64-bit (aside from handling more RAM the instruction set can make for added performance)? It'll be ready.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:38

98. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Just look at the microsd card. Mine is 64gb, and its the size of a fingernail.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 13:08

107. rd_nest (Posts: 735; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)


It runs on a Linux kernel dude. Linux have been running 64-bit since decades. Where were you all these day??

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:26 4

53. amasog (Posts: 129; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


64 bit chip on ip5s is not gimmick! why? because it beats the quadcore 2gb-ramed android flagships!

LOL!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:29 7

58. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Cross platform benchmarking is almost useless. And the Note 3 beats it in most CPU benches, while the iPhone 5 winds in most browser speed benches.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:43 4

84. akki20892 (Posts: 3300; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


Waiting to see galaxy turn in pc.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 19:22 1

116. almostdone (Posts: 110; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


The galaxy range is almost like a PC now. Just buy the dock, hook up to HD screen/TV and plug whatever USB device you want into the dock.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:48 2

89. bubbadoes (Posts: 324; Member since: 03 May 2012)


yeah, but what app needs that kind of spec to run, or multi-tasking event will consume that type of energy needed on a phone. These specs are better than my i7 powered laptop. Come on. Like i always said...Chase the numbers. Comment number 1. Kids

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:19 1

94. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


They're nowhere near my i7 desktop. And an ARM processor is absolutely destroyed by an i7 for processing power.

More ram will help, especially with the way multitasking is done on a phone - the app is kept in memory even after you close it, and only flushed if ram becomes low. That way it's ready to go next time you call it.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 09:45 1

99. amro99 (Posts: 76; Member since: 29 Nov 2012)


No matter how many GB of RAM and what kind of SOC samsung uses in their phones, it will still laaaag.
i had the privilage to use GS4 for few hours and it lagged like hell, i guess people who buy samsung devices and are happy, probably havent used any other brand (iphone, htc, etc) to feel the difference

But still... Kudos to samsung for pushing the boundaries!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:25 3

102. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Check out all the reviews of the Note 3. Here's a snippet from GSMarena's review. It's mirrored in pretty much every review.

"It's also very responsive, thanks to the superb hardware inside. Everything happens instantaneously and there is no lag to be spotted whatsoever."

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 10:25

103. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Check out all the reviews of the Note 3. Here's a snippet from GSMarena's review. It's mirrored in pretty much every review.

"It's also very responsive, thanks to the superb hardware inside. Everything happens instantaneously and there is no lag to be spotted whatsoever."

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 18:00

111. .TROLL (banned) (Posts: 14; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)


Why blame Samsung, when the CPU is so weak that when all features are turned on, the S600 starts to lag! Even the S800 is the same!

Android needs A15 Cortex to run smooth, lag free at 2.3Ghz

posted on 31 Oct 2013, 22:26

125. JC557 (Posts: 938; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Thank god this little ph*cker is banned. So much dis info which should be frowned upon on a supposed tech site.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 19:36

120. deewinc (Posts: 155; Member since: 21 Feb 2013)


That must have been a china phone in the name of SUMSANG brother

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 18:24

114. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


So, what you are saying is that Samsung will have a slew of developers taking full advantage of this "none gimmick" 64 bit CPU at launch. Because the strength of Android and Samsung is in its optimization and quick adaptation of the latest hardware by major developers? A useful 64 BIT CPU with all that lovely optimized software, unlike 'this other company out there' who has no commitment or pull with getting the ecosystem to adapt quickly to its new hardware.

Or are you saying its simply because 'lul 4gb ram' ? I thought Android users were supposed to be techies? A monkey with access to Google can quickly find out that the advantage of 64bit (ARMv8) goes beyond simply addressing more RAM. So stop being disingenuous.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:16 3

2. itsdeepak4u2000 (Posts: 2428; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)


OMG...4GB...

Making of S5...I think Sammy will put every possible thing in S5 which they have not kept with S4.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:47 7

28. abdane (Posts: 474; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


well, they have to change the design and building materials first...

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:14 10

41. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, they don't. Many of us put function over form.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:49 1

90. akki20892 (Posts: 3300; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


As usual they come up with same design and same material, and I bet ya. Or we will see different series and that different series will have different design and material.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 18:02

112. .TROLL (banned) (Posts: 14; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)


Hope they use DragonTrail™ or Sapphire™ glass.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 20:38

122. akki20892 (Posts: 3300; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)


troll u back yeyyyyyyyyyy

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 19:25 1

117. almostdone (Posts: 110; Member since: 25 Sep 2012)


Remember plastic is fantastic!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:16 3

3. wicpromd (Posts: 266; Member since: 20 Aug 2013)


Everything will be Roughly,Hardly Thrashed by This Mighty GS5
will it really be on 14 nm ???
i

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:35 2

21. Xhanku (Posts: 4; Member since: 26 Feb 2013)


Can't be 14nm

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:44 2

25. SAYED-EJAZ (Posts: 220; Member since: 10 Oct 2013)


14nm is bit high jump ..I dont think it will be 14nm.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:02 1

33. Reality_Check (Posts: 260; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


Most likely 20nm

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:17 7

4. BillyG (Posts: 305; Member since: 24 Sep 2012)


finally, 64 bit done right

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:28 2

57. amasog (Posts: 129; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)


not done right... but copied right! LOL!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:43 1

64. JMartin22 (Posts: 756; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)


Their 64-bit chip has been in the making for over a year. They can't just decide up and out of no where that they're going to implement this months later after another company did, just because they want to "catch up" - this stuff takes a lot of research and development. Which translates into time.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:13 4

72. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


ARM announced over a year ago that these were coming out early 2014. Samsung copied nothing, they simply took ARMs designs and instruction sets - the same thing Apple did.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:15 1

74. brar.arsh (Posts: 132; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)


Do you know who has produced the 64bit Silicon being used in Iphone5s??

Go check it first..

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:19 1

76. PapaSmurf (Posts: 7674; Member since: 14 May 2012)


inb4 Ninetysix with the logic statement.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:52 1

91. Hyperreal (Posts: 126; Member since: 08 Oct 2013)


Sure, just like octa. mhm

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 18:29

115. GeekyGene (Posts: 88; Member since: 25 Aug 2013)


'done right' ?

You do know that the 'closed' ecosystem enables Apple to make 64bit meaningful right? As in, optimized software. That's what matters here, software. Done right is hardware with software to make use of it.

If you are simply referring to the fact it has 4GB of RAM, then I despair at all these people claiming to be techies and geeks on here. Addressing more RAM is a major advantage of the 64-bit architecture sure, but its not the ONLY one.... and you can find that out pretty easily.

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 06:17 9

5. Trex95 (Posts: 543; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


Useful?! Can you explain me how useful if Android still can't support 64 bit?!

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 07:17 6

44. tedkord (Posts: 4470; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's been covered countless times. Android has had 64bit baked in for years because the Android kernel is Linux.

“[While Apple touted 64-bit support in the new iPhone,] that’s done in Linux, has been done for a long time. The Android ecosystem just picks that up by default, they don’t have to go through any special development process to do that.” – Linux Foundation Executive Director Jim Zemlin

posted on 29 Oct 2013, 08:45 1

85. JC557 (Posts: 938; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)


Future-proofing. Jesus for a tech site people seem to have a hard time grasping technology. Granted it may not be used right away but at least devs will be more inclined to program for it if the hardware has enough of a presence.

It's always a chicken and egg conundrum when it comes to software and hardware. I'd rather have capable hardware first. If it doesn't get used nothing is really lost and I can keep my device longer.

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