End of an era: Nokia won't be making phones anymore, says CEO
1. tiara6918 (Posts: 2018; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
Screw you elop for killing nokia's mobile division. Anyway good luck to nokia on their Networks, Technologies and mapping business
4. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
Good luck also for M$ to succeed selling any device in the future, Nadella can stop hoping for success starting today.
10. amansingal14 (Posts: 309; Member since: 08 Sep 2012)
Actually I think after Ballmer's exit, Nadella is pretty much focused on next generation computing, comprising of totally cloud based mobile computing, with newer features that may or may not be extremely innovative.
I certainly hope neither he nor Rajeev Suri would not fail their respective companies and even set new standards for the industry. Microsoft and Nokia Siemens are actually great players in this aspect; they're just out of form.
21. Manti123 (banned) (Posts: 207; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)
I am very sad
Very bad morning
I hate that m*f elop.
We really need Nokia.. That is unbelievable story for killing a great brand like Nokia ... What happened to this world??? Seriously??
48. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Meh. Nothing was said about Nokia working with a third party contract manufacturer, like Pegatron, Foxconn, etc.
At face value, it seems Nokia is exiting the phone biz, but there is some wiggle room. Phones are in Nokia's DNA.
98. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
6. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1344; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Now I feels like going with WP/Microsoft is the most pathetic move ever made by Nokia (my opinion). It just completely killed nokia off. Very sad indeed.
56. Meccalangelo (Posts: 27; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)
Never thought Nokia will go before Blackberry
106. zippolite28 (Posts: 105; Member since: 28 Sep 2012)
hmm happens some times unexpected but yes i am waiting for something new from the people of nokia to do something new... also waiting to see what MS is going to do new
11. Dastrix (unregistered)
So much for joining MS. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens in 2016, after the license expires.
78. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Nothing is going to happen! Read❗ ... It's completely over for good..
17. Johnnokia (Posts: 1060; Member since: 27 May 2012)
Economic suicide ... Nokia story must be taught in all business and management schools.
Feel deeply sorry for us as customers. We lost the best phone hardware ever!.
FU flop, microbitch, and the idiot Nokia board
47. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Nokia board shouldn't have been approved to go with wp in 2010.
29. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
screw stephen flop and rajeev suri... I hope Nokia will find competent Ceo like John Chen soon
46. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
Nokia made great history...... And we always remember you Nokia.
We will tell kids to that, Nokia phones used to be a breaks the floor :)
58. noler (Posts: 322; Member since: 19 Aug 2013)
Not killing, transferred nokia's mobile division to MS. If you want Nokia, buy Lumia.
61. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
@tiara6918 just for the sake of Knowledge could you please elaborate on how exactly Elop killed Nokia.
Start at the very beginning before Elop or WP came into the picture how well Nokia was doing, walk us through the events that took place up to the point that MS bought the division educate us in detail.
72. TechKnowledge (Posts: 55; Member since: 05 May 2013)
This^.... I find it awkward how everyone claims to be a fan of Nokia as a company, but fail to realize that Nokia was in a downward spiral before Elop/Microsoft stepped in. Reminds me of the United States' economic financial crisis with President Obama at fault! I guess when some people lack comprehension about the issues at hand they tend to point fingers in any direction. Maybe this is how they find comfort. However, when the curtains go up, Elop couldn't have sold Nokia's devices division to Microsoft without approval from the board of directors. Obviously, an agreement was made between the powers that be.
81. romeo1 (Posts: 705; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
I think you are right nokia was already losing marketshare. But the wrong choice(Microsoft) killed them. Android would be better for them. Maybe they where to proud because they bashed android at the time
99. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Explain for us why Android would have been better as opposed to Windows Phone.
104. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
for starters, htc is still a standalone company.
where is nokia mobile now? its with microsoft because they cant handle it anymore.
they are pussies saying that they cant beat competitors.
they under estimated the power of the NOKIA label.
since the n9 launch, and then the lumia 800/900 launch ,
EVERYONE EVEN TECH SITES WISHED NOKIA TO GO ANDROID ROAD. THEY DIDNT EVEN TRIED IT.
they never did an android device. ANDROID WAS FUKCING FREE! but windows phone needs licensing fees.
if i were at the board, i'll release the n9, followed by lumia 800 windows phone version AND a lumia 800 android version. then watch which is more profitable at that time.
there are nokia outlets everywhere back then before samsung finally won the android battle (in numbers and popularity that is).
if only they did android,even just one device, people will still buy the reliable trusted nokia than the rest.
107. jroc74 (Posts: 5986; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
"for starters, htc is still a standalone company."
Exactly, but lets not point out this lil fact.
Even with Samsung bringing the most profits in Android land, each separate OEM is still making phones, still have their name.
Just that fact alone.....Nokia might have been better off going with Android. Nokia's name was bigger than HTC or as big. Its probably bigger than a majority of OEM's that make Android devices.
112. romeo1 (Posts: 705; Member since: 06 Jan 2012)
Just look at the marketshare of android.
If nokia was on the android wagon samusung probably wouldn't be nr1.
Nokia was the nr1 phone manufacturer with symbian but ios was quickly getting ground so was android. Nokia had the biggest name and there where allot of people who where just buying nokia devices because of there name. But ios was easier to handle with a better polished os. Android became better over time and nokia did to little to late to keep up with the 2 os's.
Then they where bashing on both os's about being a hype and all. And if i remember correctly they where bashing android completely about that it wasn't any good.
I loved nokia but the 3300 music was my last one. As i tried the Sony Ericsson t630 and loved the ui as it was really fast and symbian was slow as hell. For business you could do more with symbian but that wasn't needed for me at the time as i was only 14 yrs old.
I was always tempted to go back but it was just to slow
115. dexter_jdr (Posts: 1163; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
and also, i see more nokia asha 501 and nokia X phones on the streets rather than a nokia windows phone.
117. corporateJP (Posts: 2431; Member since: 28 Nov 2009)
Because Windows Phone is dogs**t...move on...
79. rodneyej1 (Posts: 3576; Member since: 06 Jul 2013)
Dude!!!! You're still here arguing with these #### bags?....
2. Anterv (Posts: 172; Member since: 09 Jul 2014)
Well, better honorable leave than return with crap.
Good old Nokia will always be in our hearts.
13. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1344; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Well it wasn't a better honorable leave. They deserved better. Microsoft should at least kept Nokia name.
65. eharris560 (Posts: 78; Member since: 28 Dec 2012)
Nokia is still a company. MS couldn't take the name. Beside people are confuse with Windows Rt and Windows Pro. MS using Nokia brand would've melted their brains.
44. akki20892 (Posts: 3900; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)
U don't know what we feel........because we are Nokians......
Miss u Nokia.....
5. buccob (Posts: 2512; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
And to think that they could have been King of Android..... Oh well, it is Samsung's time and later on some other company else will take over.
9. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1344; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
I also do believe nokia would have been in a much better position than its current state because of their excellent quality, camera, hardware. They might have better opportunity there with android which is alot more like Symbian than WP.
12. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
I don't know where people get this idea that Nokia would have remained on top if only they'd gone Android. Back in 2010 when everyone else was adopting Android, it was all about differentiation. Nokia would have likely skinned Android even more heavily than the competition.
I think it's more likely they would have ended up like Sony, with a strong cult following but not nearly enough marketing power to unseat Samsung. Superior hardware only goes so far in today's market.
16. LetsBeHonest (Posts: 1344; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
Though Sony is still in a better position than Nokia right now.i believe nokia would've been at least second best in android world . Going with WP didn't bring Nokia to success but it slowly sucked by Microsoft then VOLLLLAHHH...!! No more Nokia.
20. Phonedingo (Posts: 386; Member since: 16 Aug 2014)
I'm not sure why he thinks they would've failed either. Nokia is a probably the most well rounded hardware manufacturer in mobile. It's just nobody comparatively speaking wanted to use WP compared to android.
22. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
But Nokia's troubles started long before WP. They needed to take drastic action at least a year earlier, kill Symbian AND MeeGo, and start Android development in '09-10 when it was on the way up. By the time they were ready to drop their proprietary OSes, their market share had already plummeted. In the US, no carriers were even selling Nokia smartphones. WP actually revived them, if only temporarily.
54. juandante (Posts: 463; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
But that is EXACTLY because of flop, its flop's fault all what you explain
18. Phonedingo (Posts: 386; Member since: 16 Aug 2014)
At least Sony's still selling handsets.
7. Anshulonweb (Posts: 430; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
goodbye nokia....you will be remembered forever .... i will never sell my nokia e71....
14. hunted (Posts: 403; Member since: 21 Sep 2011)
bad news for me. All the best for other departments in Nokia
30. Classique (Posts: 73; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)
They're actually doing great the Passport is selling well and is creating strong interest in the brand. The Classic is going to be a relatively hot phone and their services bring in a good amount of money they're only going to get better.
59. DAMONORIBELLO (Posts: 109; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)
How many have they sold and what is their net profit?
36. Rager722 (Posts: 319; Member since: 30 Jan 2013)
Blackberry is still selling and beginning to rise again.
19. Bioload25 (Posts: 213; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)
Farewell Nokia. It's been an honor to watch your rise and fall, and maybe one day we'll meet again, you with your fantastic build quality and I with my money.
26. darkkjedii (Posts: 19734; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Nokia e71, one of th best phones I ever had. Peace out!
27. palmguy (Posts: 502; Member since: 22 Mar 2011)
No! No! No! Palm all over again!
31. Adrian38 (Posts: 142; Member since: 05 Nov 2012)
And the demise of Windows OS continues. Nokia was the only thing selling Windows OS.
33. roldefol (Posts: 4097; Member since: 28 Jan 2011)
Tell that to MS. They probably think WP8 was selling Nokias.