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Damian Dinning tweets his response to criticism of 8MP PureView camera on Nokia Lumia 920

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Damian Dinning tweets his response to criticism of 8MP PureView camera on Nokia Lumia 920
While no one really expected the PureView camera on the back of the rumored Nokia Lumia 920 to be 41MP like on the Nokia 808 PureView model, there was speculation that the Windows Phone 8 powered device would have a 21MP shooter on back. But the way this rumor got started wasn't based on any particularly outstanding leak. You see, the code name for the device, "Phi" is the 21st letter of the Greek alphabet. Also, a teaser video for the device ran exactly 21 seconds. Thus, a 21MP camera should be on the phone. After all, how can you refute logic like that?

Back in July, after the 41MP Nokia 808 PureView was released, a Nokia VP by the name of Richard Kerris said that a Nokia Lumia PureView model would be coming shortly. The obvious thought was to assume that the same 41MP was going to be on the new Lumia device.

Dinning sets the record straight on an 8MP PureView shooter

Dinning sets the record straight on an 8MP PureView shooter

Alas, as we told you on Monday, the leaked Nokia Lumia 920 is rumored to come with an 8MP shooter on back and is still expected to be marketed as a PureView device. Even though this is all conjecture as the phone has not been announced by Nokia, a camera expert for the Finnish based handset manufacturer, Damian Dinning, send out a number of tweets explaining how an 8MP camera can still be classified as a PureView model. Dinning made sure not to give any secrets away because after all, we are talking about a rumored camera on a rumored phone.

Some of the tweets by Dinning pointed out that PureView is not a single spec or feature and is about using "optics, pixels and image processing in new and different ways to allow you to do things you otherwise cannot." He emphasized that PureView is not about the number of pixels, but what you do with them. He also adds that he knows of no 21MP camera which lends more credence to the speculation that the Nokia Lumia 920 will have the aforementioned 8MP shooter on back. 

You can check out all the comments from Dinning by clicking on the sourcelink below.

source: DamianDinning via SlashGear

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posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:09 2

1. redmd (Posts: 1279; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


So is this a sort of confirmation of the 8 MP pureview?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:13 5

4. No_Nonsense (Posts: 826; Member since: 17 Aug 2012)


No, but all will be revealed

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:48 2

19. MeoCao (unregistered)


As far as I know, PureView is a technology to crunch big images into smaller ones.
With only 8MP do we need any special technology?

And without hi res camera how can we take picture of far objects, a favorite feature of PureView?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:28 1

12. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)


he just said is not about the amount of pixels but how the phone utilises it

posted on 06 Sep 2012, 14:21

41. epdm2be (Posts: 556; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)


Bollocks. Pureview is all about capturing images with large pixel count and downscaling them to lower photo's. From 38Mpixel sensor to 5Mpixels photo.

Also the first paragraph "But the way this rumor got started wasn't based on any particularly outstanding leak"

The "rumor" started because Windows Phone is technically restricted to 20Mpixel sensor max! Not some s**t about phi or 21-second teasers.

The thing is that the 920 WILL have a larger sensor but it will only use 1 (one) pureview mode. It´ll probably have a 16Mpixel sensor internally and downscales all images to 8Mpixels. This will have a significant effect on picture quality though the 808 PV will still be better. Also his faiytale about that LED is bollocks. Xenon is STILL superior.

This phone sucks! It only uses Pureview as a marketing trick. It's just as iProduct all bling and no substance (and lots of marketing shoved behind it).

I don't believe in it anymore!
I don't believe Nokia anymore!
I don't trust Microsoft anymore!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:14 1

24. andro. (Posts: 1999; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Nokia reps told us before that the because of the years of development of the 808 pure view in the time of symbian the technology is generally only compatible with symbian software and any version of it in the future brought to windows would have to be a very scaled back modified version. Its most likely a wp pureview would be 5-8 mp at most and would only have small benefits over regular 8 mp cameras

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:11 11

2. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2283; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


:-\ give atlease a 12mp shooter :-)

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:17 5

25. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


true. 12MP shutter is not too big compared to 8MP. It's slightly bigger but not in a big factor. Use the 12MP used in n8 and utilize some mind boggling DSP.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:12 15

3. Adithya7184 (Posts: 317; Member since: 05 Mar 2011)


if its 8mp camera....nokia you are dead....

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 12:21

37. Cyan3boN (Posts: 444; Member since: 23 Feb 2012)


didnt u read his tweets nutcase. its not about the pixels.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 22:11

40. ScottSchneider (Posts: 334; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)


Yes IT is not about the Pixels. But If the Lumia 920 comes out with the 21er or even say the 41er, Nokia will have a winner in their hands.. n they would sell 920 like hot cakes... There aren't a lot of customers who will go buy products thinking it is not the MP that counts... They buy it for the Tech specs... It is most of the time the Technical Specs the phone has... Every one buy Quad-Core... Probably a year from now, Quad-Core could be gone and the next gen Processors will take over... IF they arent giving the same to the customers who are waiting for the 21er 920, then what is the difference between the Ativ S and the 920...

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:17 2

5. Bluesky02 (Posts: 1439; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)


Gimme a slight better version of N8

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:23 2

8. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Errr..... 808?

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:25 1

11. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


lol... slightly :D

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:21 2

27. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)


Oh yeah your right. 808 is a mammoth upgrade :p

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:19 1

26. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)


lumia 8pureview

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:22 3

6. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


Probably an 8 mp so they can keep the form factor down. It'll still be tight, but the majority of people are going to not even notice Nokia when the the new iPhone comes out... unfortunately :(

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:32 4

14. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2283; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


They will be to bizzy ' standing in line.. waiting for a "new" designed iPhone.. lol

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:48 5

20. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


You mean the revolutionary "new" design! LOL

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:01 2

21. haseebzahid (Posts: 1853; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


thahahaha u just taunted iphone

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:47 3

18. ravi5695 (Posts: 75; Member since: 11 Feb 2011)


unfortunately.... its not gonna happen... iphone's bad time has started with the launch of WP8...

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:23 2

7. jove39 (Posts: 1889; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Well...a real Pure view 41mp would've saved nokia from further drowning...not sure about 8mp...and any logic/justification Damian use to defend 8mp shooter is waste!!!

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:24 3

9. ogy_dogy (Posts: 453; Member since: 29 Jun 2012)


Nokia needs to realise that people are stupid, and would rather have a 41 mp shooter that makes lousy photos (not that it does, this is just an example) and say they got 41mp than to have a 8mp shooter which makes awesome pics.... tis sad but true...

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 09:03 1

30. weinerslav (Posts: 126; Member since: 31 Jul 2012)


Sad but true, you just need to check some comments here (ok, some are already gone) to see how people defend the megapixel count over quality... And this is between people that apparently understand something about technology!!! Doesn't matter how good you are, it only matters that you manage to sell it (and fool a few)

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:25 2

10. lsguntu (Posts: 67; Member since: 06 Aug 2012)


Damn ... I did not even wait for my exam results this anxiously..Now I am waiting for Sep 5th

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:29 1

13. Roomaku (Posts: 278; Member since: 06 Feb 2012)


LOL I think Nokia is waiting anxiously also

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:34 1

15. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2283; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


Same here... lol .. THE WORLD AWAITS!! Nokia...

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:45

16. noriya (Posts: 12; Member since: 28 Aug 2012)


hi,do you know when nokia start the event?i meant the time and also where?thanks.

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 08:05

22. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 2283; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)


NYC .. I think? Not sure what time..

posted on 04 Sep 2012, 07:46 3

17. bayhuy (Posts: 320; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


So, he actually said: "It's impossible to put PureView camera in a smartphone and in the same time to keep thin profile and good looking design. So we chose to put 8mp regular shooter, and we will try to fool you that it's PureView."

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