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Apple seeks another $179 million from Samsung for patent infringement payoff

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Apple seeks another $179 million from Samsung for patent infringement payoff
Earlier this month, Samsung was ordered to pay Apple $548 million to end the first patent infringement case between the two rivals. But Samsung has decided to ask the Supreme Court to hear the case, claiming that current patent law is not suitable for modern times. Now, Apple has another bill it wants Samsung to pay.

Five devices that Apple cited in the first patent infringement suit remained on sale after the verdict was reached. As a result, Apple wants to get paid for sales of those devices dating from the day after the first verdict was announced on August 24th 2012, to present. Apple took the amount of the verdict that each of the five devices was responsible for, and computed how much it should receive for each additional unit that was rung up after Judge Koh's gavel came down. After about $1 million in interest, the additional total that Apple is seeking from Samsung is $179 million. On Wednesday, Apple filed with the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, asking it to force Samsung to pay them that amount.

The five devices listed by Apple's court filing include the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket. Apple says that Samsung owes it $6.14 million for additional sales of the device following the verdict. Other models cited by Apple are the Samsung Epic 4G Touch ($97 million), Samsung Galaxy S II T-Mobile ($74.7 million), Samsung DROID Charge ($620,000) and the Samsung Galaxy Prevail ($167,500).

Will there ever be an end to this? Or is Apple v. Samsung destined to continue forever, as long as even just one lawyer is breathing.

Apple seeks $179 million from Samsung based on the sales of these five devices from the day after the verdict of the first case, to present

Apple seeks $179 million from Samsung based on the sales of these five devices from the day after the verdict of the first case, to present


source: Reuters via Engadget

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posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:18 8

1. Tejas9 (Posts: 95; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)


Really? .....

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:58 25

11. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Here come all the Apple haters / Android Circle Jerk morons.

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 23:05 56

15. willard12 (Posts: 1677; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)


Here comes all the Apple sack-hangers with their "look, I'm unbiased, am I fooling you" user names.

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 23:39 14

20. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


Phanboy did u not read the last suit apple lost this week and they said they will only pay fair market value, and it was a much much bigger infringement so u see how u apples nuts say every law suit apple starts they should win yet when they lose its no ill pay $.50 for each phone sale

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 00:18 11

28. NoToFanboys (Posts: 1547; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


And you are their equivalent, just on a different side.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 16:00

118. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


yes bcos now they are TRUE FKIN ASHOLES and disgusting ridiculous BEGGARS !!!
Soon this vomiting causing company will be doomed for sure !!!

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 15:58

117. Acer_Predator (unregistered)


Apple is only leecher samsungs blood ! but why only them and not other companies..

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:19 13

2. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2468; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Come On Apple Lay Off Damn, Cause You're Going To Lose One Of These Suits Sooner Or Later And It Will Be One Filed For, I Can't Wait To See You Get Bit In The Ass.

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:43 28

6. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Apple never get tired of ripping-off and patent-trolling.

Sh!!!t

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 01:08 11

32. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2468; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


That's A Fact The Whole World Knows.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 02:05 11

36. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


And it's so annoying to see them get away with it.

Money speaks... huh?

SMFH

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:37 12

51. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Money certainly does speak when you are the best Company in the world.

Just stating facts.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:40 27

52. Podrick (Posts: 711; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


Best Company in the World? Lmao, your iFanboyism is over 9000!

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:46 8

56. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


I'm a fanboy for stating facts?

Google "Best Company in the World" and tell me if you don't see Apple.

It actually makes someone not a fanboy for refusing to let their bias get in the way of factual information.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:53 26

57. Podrick (Posts: 711; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


Being the most valuable company doesn't make them best. Justin Bieber sells over a million album copies, so does that make that POS best singer? A kardarshian app crashes app store, is that app great by any means? They're best at attracting blind $heep$ thats all.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 06:19 12

76. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Justin Beiber is the most valuable singer? No

Is the kardashian app the most valuable app? No

What a stupid logic. Apple is the world's most valuable company because their history proves to be consistent, in terms of company performance, brand value, and customer satisfaction. You'd be an idiot to think otherwise.

I understand you hate Apple more than anything in the world, but don't let your bias make you oblivious to reality. Apple is hands down the #1 company in the world. Even Google would tell you that.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 09:35 11

98. Podrick (Posts: 711; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


"because their history proves to be consistent, in terms of company performance, brand value, and customer satisfaction."
Clearly you don't even know the history about your favourite company yourself. Check Apple's history before going on iRampage.

By your logic, then McDonalds is the best because its the most valuable fast food company.
Your comments clearly shows who's the real biased guy around here.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 12:35 4

107. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Which fast food chain is more valuable than McDonalds? What point are you trying to make? Are you stating this to say just because Apple is the most valuable company that means it doesn't make the best products? If that's the case, you a freaking moron because I never said they did.

Podrick, aka ordinary, make your point clear next time. And Apple isn't my favorite company. But I do love giving credit where it's due, unlike idiots like you.

Hope you are enjoying your Christmas, cuh.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:57 6

58. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Apple is best/biggest iin termes of profit. Nothing else!

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 05:57 15

69. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


You're a fanboy for stating opinions and calling them facts. You're an idiot for actually believing them.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 06:23 11

79. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


I'm a Samsung Fanboy

I'm an Apple Fanboy

I'm a Google Fanboy

I'm a Microsoft fanboy.

One thing I am not is a biased fanboy like 85% of you on here. Hate all you want, I'll destroy everyone of you one by one.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 07:01 12

85. M.O.A.B (Posts: 172; Member since: 13 Feb 2015)


you are a fanboy of sh*t ,, you said you are a samsung fanboy but never posted anything fair about samsung while always praising apple with stupid opinions that just screams apple fanboyism and then liking your own comments

pathetic

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 15:26 4

115. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, you're not. And the fact you think you can actually pull that on us is ridiculous.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 15:54 3

116. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Seems lijke he's pulling a hoax, and the user name to banproof his account

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 07:49 4

87. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Hey, at least he's no pretending to be "an Apple fan and an Android fan." Not that he was fooling anyone.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 05:55 13

68. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Apparently, it also speaks when you're the scummiest company in the world, too. Apple proves that.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 09:06

94. sissy246 (Posts: 994; Member since: 04 Mar 2015)


Lol, you just keep thinking that lol

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:21 18

3. 27satz (Posts: 134; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)


Apple is scared of Samsung!

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:57 12

9. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


lol...Apple is one of the most valuable companies in the world, if not most valuable.

They are not scared of Samsung.

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 23:44 16

24. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


Most valuable lol lol hahahahajaja how dumb are you, let me guess your 20 years old live at home and mom got u an iPhone to help u fit in at school.
If apple left the market today not one major company would care or be hurt nothing on earth would change.
Google no maps GPS and YouTube Facebook and many other things Google could end apple if it wantes like it did to windows

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 00:22 1

29. rishav20193 (Posts: 206; Member since: 18 Jul 2015)


google put an end to windows ?? where ?? & when ??

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 00:38 2

30. MANOFSTEEL (Posts: 62; Member since: 25 Nov 2015)


Apple has more money than Scroogle and Shamesung together, like it or not Laggdroid was created from an ex Apple employee so is a stolen product and Shamesung......ohhhh boy what can I say, history speaks by itself since the first galaxy was launched......!!!!!

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 01:10 12

33. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 2468; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


Samsung Is A Huge Company That Is Many Times Richer Than Apple.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 06:04 16

70. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Wow, you should really research a little before blowing of at the mouth and looking like a fool (though you clearly are a fool).

Andy Rubin left Apple in 1992. At that time, the iPhone and iOS weren't even a twinkle in Steve Jobs' eye. Theft would have been impossible. Android began development before iOS.

History does speak for itself. Since the first Galaxy S was launched, Samsung had consistently put out the better devices. Cutting edge, features that Apple later copies. Better displays. Just overall better, culminating in the Note 5 which is far better than the iPhone 6s+.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 12:00 5

104. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


steve jobs joined apple in 1997... and andy rubin left apple in 1992... how come both have any correlation?
How android is a stolen product when ios was launched in 2007? after 15 years of andy rubin's departure...
manofsteel is clearly an idiotic person, he killed all the standards of a simple logic

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 17:43 3

122. darkkjedii (Posts: 21211; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Overall it's better, but owning both, and using them so much... I can honestly say, the iPhone is better in certain areas. I personally prefer internet on the iPhone (better reader feature, has text to speech, and a better card view), email app on the iPhone works a little better (for me), and Facebook is much better on iPhone.

The 6S Plus is no slouch, but the Note 5 is overall the better device. Where it separates itself, is in multi tasking. The iPhone simply can't compete, then break out the S-Pen, and it's game over. Two very different devices, but Apple mos def needs to bridge the gap.

Camera quality is too close to really debate, but sending pictures is better on the iPhone, editing them is much better on the note. I love the front camera screen flash, I also love the notes wide angle front camera. There are obvious trade offs, when I switch phones, but both get it done.

The 6S Plus does get better battery life. I can leave it home, leave for work at 3am, come home at 12pm, and it'll be at 99%. Do the same thing with the note, and it'll be at 80%. I know Apples handling of background processes is the reason, but I'm speaking on a per device basis.

The Notes stock keyboard is worlds ahead of Apples, and let's not even bring up customizations. Oddly enough, the iPhone is quite a bit better at notifications. You can customize them, in order displayed, as well as how, and how many of each one, and interactive notifications are much better on iPhone. I also like Apple separation of notifications and quick settings, but the notes ability to edit/customize quick setting is better.

Overall advantage: Note 5, but outside of multi tasking and customizations...it's closer than you think. Two killer features Samsung omitted, allowing Apple to gain ground: ir blaster and sd card. iPhones need multi window, pic n pic, and slide over. Notes need better reader view, text to speech, and better card view.

Sorry to techiexp you bro.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 18:38 2

124. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Don't listen to me, Darkk. I'm just trolling a troll. Hotness do get better standby, but Androids get better usage time (due in part to bigger batteries.

The main argument is over Apple's business practices, which I find abhorrent. The regularly steal idea from other and slap patents on it, when they've never done a lick of work on such devices. Worse still, their intention isn't even to produce the devices, but to prevent others from developing them. They file patent after patent, misty of which aren't deserving, because they know they will skate right through the overburdened USPTO work only cursory examination, then assert patent rights in ways they shouldn't apply all to stifle the innovation of competitors.

Every patent asserted in the trials had since been invalidated as never having been deserving of patent protection. Every single one. The payment should be $0

Apple is an entitled, spoiled brat company that believes all tech is their's by right.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 19:02 1

125. darkkjedii (Posts: 21211; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Some of its business practices get to me too bro. You know I'm not gonna sugar coat it.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:24 9

48. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Um, you can laugh all you want...but they literally viewed the world's most valuable company and brand. Refer to links below.

Just because I'm stating factual information about companies I am not emotionally attached to (like many of you morons) doesn't mean I'm some huge Apple fanboy. I own a 6P and am an Android guy all day. But some of you idiots try to act like Apple is either doomed / a terrible company / makes s**tty products / is getting killed by Samsung........all of which is incorrect.

http://www.businessinsider.com/interbrand-2015-best-global-brands-report-2015-10

http://fortune.com/worlds-most-admired-companies/apple-1/

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 05:16 16

60. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


But most of your comments are praises to Apple..
So it makes people believe that you're an iPhan in deguise of a fandroid.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 06:35 16

82. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Hex: You see me praising Apple so much on here because this site is obviously overrun with Android fanboys and Apple haters. Not saying Android haters don't exist either, but any newcomer sees how no one gives Apple the credit they are due.

If I state an Apple hating comment on ANY ARTICLE, I'd receive at least 1 upvote every 10 to 30 minutes. If I say anything Android bashing, I'll be s**t on by thousands of Android fans.

So many of you are so biased it's not even funny, so you have fallen into the trap of believing one of your own (an Android fanboy) is an Apple fanboy because I'm the ONLY ANDROID FANBOY ON THIS WEBSITE THAT IS SOMEWHAT REASONABLE LOL....and that's the truth.

Like I stated before, at heart, I am the following:

I'm a Samsung Fanboy

I'm an Apple Fanboy

I'm a Google Fanboy

I'm a Microsoft fanboy.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 09:44 7

100. Podrick (Posts: 711; Member since: 19 Aug 2015)


"because I'm the ONLY ANDROID FANBOY ON THIS WEBSITE THAT IS SOMEWHAT REASONABLE LOL....and that's the truth."
Only you and your 12 accounts would believe that haha.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 18:08 2

123. darkkjedii (Posts: 21211; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


That one great F'n post bro. +1

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 19:17 1

126. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


It's a great batch odd bald faced lies.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 20:28 1

127. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Thanks bro. Glad other people see it.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 21:51 1

129. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


No! What you see is we arent stupid enough to give Apple credit where they dont deserve it.

I dont care what company you prefer, but that doesnt mean because you prefer them, you should turn a cheek to bad practices.

In the 80's I raved about Microsoft. But when they did the things they did, I stop cheerleading them.

Taking someones elses idea and making it better, doesnt make it yours. IT JUST DOESNT.

Simple logic. A shape should never be patentable. EVER!!!!! By anyone. Colors should never be patented by anyone.

Yes looks can be patented, yes Samsung violated that with the original S, but that is it. The S has been nothing like the iPhone since the GS2. All of them have been better on many fronts.

Apple shouldnt be going to court form such frivilous BS. If Samsung did this I'd ride them to about it.

Then when Apple was found guilty, the Presidents steps in an vetos it. That ruling was handed down by a court. He had no business getting involved.

I have not seen one time any Apple fan speak bad of this at all. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Apple shouldnt be getting a dime and that is why Samsung is going to the Surpeme Court.

Also Judge Koh is obviously in Apple's pockets. There is no way Apple should have been allowed to screw up peoples text messages.

Now to be fair I told people. People need to understand is that iMessage is a client that works in real-time and it also retrives texts. There should be a setting to be able to always receive texts as SMS and not using the client.

Several peopel stated that many went back tto Apple after switching to iPhoen for this reason. Apple also took their time to fix it. Which means they could have done it on piurpose.

Yet she rules for the case to be dropped. WHoever has this case needs to appeal it. Get Koh off this bench because she is not doing her job.

When Apple is guitly they need to pay and they havent,

I tell you right now. If I owned a company where I had to directly work with Apple, they steal my IP and use it and i sue them an when, and Apple tried to tell me well we arent going to pay what you are asking we are going to pay less.

I be like no your not. Try it and I will have all your s&^t banned, or I will pull the plug on all yoru data-centers and take you complete off the radar.

Apple right now is worse than Microsoft ever was. They used the court to fight oer some BS, just because one of their partners chose to compete and they are doing a much better job. Just like Gates did to Jobs.

Apple is pissed and since they want to milk the system slowly, they want to force everyone to move at their pace.

They want to control the smartphone market like Microsoft did the PC market, but its not gong to work because Android is too big.

Either compete on the shelves, or get out the frikkin business. If I wirked at Apple and they did this, I would set my office on fire and quit. I would never work for such a company EVER! I dont care how much they were $$

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 02:43 8

40. keithtae (Posts: 434; Member since: 25 Mar 2015)


Most valuable? Are you even sure? Samsung group (not samsung electronics) is overall a much larger company than Apple by miles.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_companies_by_revenue

Even by 2015 alone, which is one of Apple's most successful year, it's still lower ranking than Samsung.

Even Google is catching up real fast.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/24/investing/apple-google-trillion-dollar-market-value/

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:27 10

49. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Since when does being larger means it's better? ROFL

Dude, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Do yourself a favor and Google the top performing or best companies. Just because a company is larger doesn't make it better. Apple is literally destroying companies all over the globe.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 05:26 8

62. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Being most succesful isn't the sole factor of being the best company. Market share and other factors do count.
Apple is best in one factor, Samsung is best in another.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 06:24 5

80. SamsungPhanboy (banned) (Posts: 765; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)


Do yourself a favor and Google Best company in the world.

It is widely known that best infers most highly valued.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 04:05 5

45. tedkord (Posts: 11630; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


Their actions say they are.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 05:28

63. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)


Really and blatantly!

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 09:03 4

93. Diezparda (Posts: 871; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)


There are many small chinese company who blatantly copying Apple even put fruit logo on their device, does Apple even care about them? Suing them? No! Because Apple didn't consider them as a threat.

You are unbiased fans? haha...

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 09:49 2

101. Carlitos (Posts: 514; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)


They should be. Apple makes the most net revenue. But Samsung is huge compared to apple. They rake in 366 billion in revenue a year!!! Waaay more than what apple makes for tevenue. In their case they actually use their money to good use, which then leads to a lower net income.

posted on 28 Dec 2015, 01:31

133. AlikMalix (Posts: 5837; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Samsung is bunch of different companies under the same name.. Just like Android is bunch of different companies under the same platform. Just like GM is bunch of car manufacturers under the same name. Just like and so on....

You dont compare a consortium of Chevy, Buick, Cadilac, Opel, Vauxhall, Holden, Wuling, Autobaojun to BMW. You dont compare HTC, Xaomi, Hiway, LG, Sony, etc against Samsung. Why would you compare Samsung Sami-conductor, Samsung Chemicals, Samsung Heavy Industries, Samsung Electronics, Samsung Appliances, Samsung w/e against Apple's Electronics - That would be silly.

Samsung just puts bunch of completely different industries under one name. "Apples to Apples" my friend.

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 23:41 2

22. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


Right because this sales for the iPad pro are so low that even a lower than expected for the iPad at 2 which also did not sell very well it looks like they're getting scared time to go back to what they do best patent troll copy steel lawsuits

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:22 9

4. Norris (Posts: 121; Member since: 26 Jun 2015)


Apple became the most greedy company after Steve Jobs was gone

posted on 24 Dec 2015, 22:58 14

13. nctx77 (Posts: 1961; Member since: 03 Sep 2013)


This actually started before he died.

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 02:32 9

39. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 857; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)


true, apple was greedy even with steve job alive. Steve job was a greedy person himself and he taught every one "How to be Perfectly Greedy 101".

posted on 25 Dec 2015, 00:43 2

31. MANOFSTEEL (Posts: 62; Member since: 25 Nov 2015)


And Fandroids became the most butthurt people in the world since Apple is kicking your ratchets a$$es with products every single Android OEM copies

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