After Cyanogen, Samsung looking to acquire the MIUI crew, shifts its focus to software
"(The company) must strengthen the competitiveness of its information technology, secure more human resources and also more actively seek mergers and acquisitions. We must pay attention to the fact that IT power is moving away from hardware companies such as Samsung to software companies."
It seems that Lee Kun-hee is not just talking it up - the other day Samsung hired Cyanogen, an icon in the Android ROM modding space, and now the company is rumored to circle the guys behind MIUI, a fairly new ROM modding team from China, whose custom UI is gaining great popularity due to the sheer beauty of its Android overlays.
The MIUI team released their own hardware recently - a $310 Android handset, called Xiaomi M1, with a dual-core 1.5GHz chipset, 4" display, 4GB of ROM, and a big 1930mAh battery. At a recent conference, however, the MIUI team said they are looking to partner with a big OEM manufacturer for their Android overlay, and Motorola or Samsung were rumored, but Moto is now out of the question. Have a look at a MIUI ROM demo, running on an HTC Desire HD.
Software is always where it's at, we'd add, and the latest proof is HP moving away from the hardware business by trying to divest of producing PCs, tablets and phones. The most powerful companies in the industry reached their current greatness largely with software, too - Microsoft, Google, Apple, Oracle, IBM, and so on.
Of course, it helps if you can make vertically integrated products like Apple does by making its own iOS devices, and if there is someone to challenge it in that respect, it's Samsung, with proprietary hardware like its Super AMOLED displays and ARM-based chipsets. The only fairly weak area has been TouchWiz, its own Android overlay, so the company acknowledging it doesn't have the internal vision to make it stick, and hiring outside talent can only mean that it stays humble and keeps an eye on the prize.
And the prize might very well be taking over Nokia for the world's N1 cell phone maker, and making good money in the process - our recap of the last quarter's mobile industry earnings showed that despite its huge portfolio Samsung needs to up its profit margin by only 2%, and it will reach HTC levels. No wonder Apple is viewing Samsung as its chief competitor among all Android manufacturers, going to great lengths to ban its products wherever it can.
source: YonhapNews & TechNode via AndroidandMe
1. oddmanout (Posts: 435; Member since: 22 May 2009)
Pardon my french but... HELL f**kING YEAH! Samsung's UI is going to be badass! Cyanogen's speed with MIUI's polished look and customization. This is going to do wonders to touch wiz. Heck, with developers that good, they should just completely re-brand their software to something new. My on
9. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
Samsung is really stepping up. Their hardware recently is changing the game up a bit. Now they just need some software to match.
22. binglut9 (Posts: 10; Member since: 12 Dec 2010)
Yea but miui?? it looks identical to ios so I think samsung might want to go a different way unless they like apple suing them
34. William13 (Posts: 25; Member since: 10 Mar 2011)
That sucks, because now there's going to be less innovation for the other devices. Cyanogen will probably only be available on Samsung devices (if they continue that project at all). Very disappointing for people who like choices and aren't fanboys of one particular brand.
3. Miles R. (unregistered)
Wont Apple See This And Start Sueing These Guys Now For The Way The iCons Look?
4. oddmanout (Posts: 435; Member since: 22 May 2009)
That's what I'm worried about... Much of MIUI is influenced by iOS. I just hope apple doesn't start filing suits and potentially destroy the MIUI Rom community. MIUI develops as non profit so theres a chance they could go off with just a warning. Then again, Apple has sued for much less.
5. netizen (unregistered)
So is Samsung going to lock down their phones once they have these custom builds of Android? Or will they let them stay open like the nexus? I really like what Samsung is trying to do with these Android builds but if they lock down their phones I won't be buying them.
With HTC unlocking their bootloaders now, and Google buying Motorola, it seems the competition is heading towards opening things up.
6. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
My guess is that Samsung is going to make their software even better, and that includes bada. Samsung understands that Google will make their own hardware and therefore Samsung need to make their own software, which of course is bada.
7. haikallp (unregistered)
are u delusional Bada fan? i've seen you talking about Bada in every PA news. I know Bada is great and all but Samsung left Bada in the dust..
8. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
I gotta agree... I've been reading around and seeing you post a lot about the wave line and the bada OS. Its a cool phone but I don't see bada going too far. At least not now.
10. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Samsung has not left bada in the dust at all. Maybe the last 6 months Samsung has not done to much with bada, but that's because they have been working on making the bada 2.0.1 update perfect, and after that update coming with Wave 3 with awesome specifications.
20. remixfa (Posts: 13965; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol.. poor peter.
peter peter the desperate bada fan.. lol.
Peter, as long as Android is the monster OS that it currently is and they dont have any issues that stem from the google-moto merger, Bada will remain a backburner OS. There is nothing wrong with that as im sure samsung will continue to slowly refine the OS to make it a secret weapon incase android goes sour.. but it will probably never be a top 3 OS unless something major happens.
Samsung knows this, they are just making extra $$ on the side with it.
21. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I personally think that Samsung is going to push bada after this google moto deal.
But seeing that they are hiring these kind of people, cyanogenmod and now MIUI, i have another guess as well...
I think that Samsung might be developing a new OS based on Android, and that's why they are hiring these kind of people.
And Samsung will then use both this new OS, and bada.
23. binglut9 (Posts: 10; Member since: 12 Dec 2010)
Noway do you know how much money this company makes from android too much...It wont get rid of android ever the market is too big and as long as they make money there going to stay in the market...Its not smart business to start a whole new os ecosystem that has no base.....It is just too big of a risk....Moto google deal wont effect them either cause like I said they are making way too much $$ for them to care about a nexus phone or whatever..
27. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
why would you believe that the moto-Google deal will make Samsung run away from android? there has not being any reason for them to leave yet, they are top sellers right now on the android field, and all rumors point the next nexus will be from Samsung again, what reason would Take Samsung will make them invest on developers to run an android based OS with all its implications instead of just running android
29. remixfa (Posts: 13965; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
i realize your a huge fanboy for bada, but in what world would a huge multinational company who is enjoying mad profit and success from serving customers Android SWITCH to an unproven and comparitively lacking feature phone OS like Bada?!? They arent going to shoot off their biggest arm of profit because they are "scared" of a moto-google deal that is going to SAVE them millions if not BILLIONS in litigation and revenue issues because its going to stop much of Apple's litigation nonsense.
Android isnt going anywhere.. android partners arent going anywhere.... and BADA is never going to GO anywhere... lol
32. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
first, bada is not a feature phone OS, it is a smartphone OS, that can do more than both WP7 and IOS. Only Android and Symbian has more functions than bada.
Second, Samsung are not stupid. They are not looking at today's sales, they are looking at tomorrows sales as well.
If Google start making their own hardware, then Samsung will be out of business with Android and they'll have to find another OS, which of course would be bada.
Google doesn't spend 12,5 billion $$$ to buy Moto and not use the hardware from moto ?
16. protozeloz (Posts: 5378; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Bada could be an options for development on Samsung. But these devs are more likely to be Android experts in order to make the touchwiz more feature rich and more fast to get developed remember cyanogen supports a horde of devices as well as miui and they are both up to date when it comes to being updated so its probably what Samsung is looking for
11. bayhuy (Posts: 301; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)
Samsung is killing the independent developers.
If you cannot beat them, buy them.
That is sad, the end of custom ROMs
30. remixfa (Posts: 13965; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
both developers said its going to have no impact on their SIDE JOBS of developing roms. You act like these people never had a day job before... lol.
no, they just got their DREAM job by being actively scooped up by a major player in the OS of their choice.. Thats the equivilant of steve jobs knocking on Taco's door (and punching him hopefully).
12. mpat (unregistered)
wtf!! 4gb of ram?
13. KEVlN (Posts: 83; Member since: 19 Aug 2011)
I know!! They had me at 1.5 ghz... then my mouth dropped at 4gb of ram... then it dropped even more when i saw 1930 mAh battery. They get all the good stuff first overseas. :(
25. aprobe (Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Feb 2011)
"4GB of ROM"(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read-only_memory) not RAM(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random-access_memory)
14. Radiance (unregistered)
4GB of RAM maybe a typo..based on MIUIdroid.com, its 4GB ROM, 1GB RAM..
but Hell! if its 4GB!!:)
31. remixfa (Posts: 13965; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
can you even play snake on that thing? lol
19. remixfa (Posts: 13965; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
next they will by symbionix from Team Whiskey and have the trifecta of top samsung rom developers.
cyanogen and miui are exellent but when it comes to whats best on galaxy, that goes to Team Whiskey.
Either way, not only are the acknowledging the great talent in the mod community, they are embracing it for their own. Thats fantastic. I wish other companies would have such a great attitude twards XDA developers and their kin. There is a lot of untapped talent there.
On a side note, I bet this produces a jump in ROM development on XDA as other developers start daydreaming about being snatched up by a big company.. lol.
26. Dj21o (Posts: 437; Member since: 19 May 2011)
I personally don't like that Samsung is doing this. Out of all the custom ROMs I have tried, MIUI was one of my lesser favorites. I think the TouchWiz interface is much more appealing, and is just as smooth as MIUI. They made the good choice of hiring CyanogenMod, though. Hopefully it isn't full, blown out MIUI, because the submenus and taskbar/UI is basically iOS. I really don't get it lol.
28. andro (unregistered)
steve jobs will vommit in rage as apple are set to fall further behind
33. premjit (unregistered)
SAMSUNG PLEASE RELEASE A STABLE VERSION OF BADA 2.01 ASAP. f**k APPLE AND IPHONE.BADA 2.01 SHOULD GET SKYPE AND USB OTB FEATURES.