After Apple, Samsung and LG might be exploring sapphire crystal displays, too
1. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
Law suit is coming... apple has a patent to use sapphire... apple invented sapphire, so no one can touch it if not purchased from apple in 1000 times higher price
5. RebelwithoutaClue (Posts: 2891; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)
I do hope you are being sarcastic, since Apple has no patent to use sapphire but a patent on how to implement sapphire in combination with a touchscreen.
11. vincelongman (Posts: 4430; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Vertu (was own by Nokia at some point) has been using sapphire glass in their phones for years
So once again Apple wouldn't be the first
52. androtaku (Posts: 242; Member since: 12 Dec 2013)
speaking of vague comparison
none of these companies, apple,samsung,Lg invented smartphone or even phone,so they deserve zero credit since they not the first
10. Finalflash (Posts: 3090; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
Apple is mainly using it as a fackin marketing gimmick and now the whole damn industry is going to waste effort on it. Sapphire as it is now is garbage as shown in the following vid:
They will probably market the hell out of it to their army of tools just like touch id and 64 bit, then every other idiot will try to pointlessly copy it.
12. vincelongman (Posts: 4430; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Strange thing is that is scientifically impossible
Steel is 5-6H, natural sapphire is 9H
So steel shouldn't have been able to scratch the sapphire, maybe Apple's man-made sapphire isn't as hard/strong as natural sapphire
17. Finalflash (Posts: 3090; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)
No it doesn't work that way, the pointy nature of the metal is what allows it to scratch something easily. The lattice of the sapphire versus a flat metal surface can be compared in hardness. That is why they have that video in the article where they move a concrete block over the glass, its pure propaganda. Unless someone is carrying bricks in their pocket (which all the iFans will now claim to do) it is a very unrealistic and pointless test.
23. vincelongman (Posts: 4430; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
It doesn't matter how "pointy" steel is, steel is still steel. Therefore it will still have a hardness of 5-6H on Mohs hardness scale, maybe up to 7H if its surgical steel
Sapphire has a hardness of 9H, basically only diamond is harder than sapphire
You can look up other measures of hardness, e.g. Vickers or Brinell, sapphire is still much harder than steel
So technically, even if you spent a month sharpening a steel nail, it still shouldn't scratch sapphire
Unless someone makes a diamond encrusted steel nail, then that will scratch sapphire
25. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Nail? That has moh of poop.
You guys should look up steels like
CM154, D2 tool, VG-10 and then not forget steel is crystalline and the cool one is obsidian..
26. AfterShock (Posts: 3698; Member since: 02 Nov 2012)
Also, transparent aluminum is possible too.
Hint, it's used in planes that cruise on edge of space, mostly spy planes.
18. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Real Sapphire that is used on
53. androtaku (Posts: 242; Member since: 12 Dec 2013)
u better study more science before commenting on this kind of scientific term
science does say material with 6 mohs scale can't scratch a 9 mohs scale material,it just meant it need 16 times the forces to scratch it
45. applesucker (Posts: 81; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)
sapphire was patented by vertu long before apple uses it on their iphones so get your stupid facts straight
2. KillerKeyboard (Posts: 344; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
Even a gradeschooler can come up with this idea and make an article from it. =D
30. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Yup. I wonder how those media know that Apple plan saphire displays, at all. Apple never said such thing. Same was with iWatch, iRing, iTV, liqud metal,........
Those media iFans make "rumors" about everything possible, so their lovely brand to look like "the first" always.
Even if they overhear that some real tech company develope something, run fast with "rumors
-articles" that Apple is doing it, too , before all.
43. ecmedic4 (Posts: 335; Member since: 02 May 2013)
Gotta love the conspiracy theories all the time from the Apple haters that roam....or maybe plague is the word i should use, phone arena. Its amazing, how ppl get so worked up and butthurt over Apple. Apparently they must be doing something right since so many ppl hate them and like to come up with so many conspiracy theories.
3. FingerMyApple (unregistered)
Eww android, nice sapphire glass but still android, eww!! :p
47. applesucker (Posts: 81; Member since: 29 Oct 2013)
gay trolls are not allowed in this section
13. vincelongman (Posts: 4430; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
I saw a video last year from one of the major companies making sapphire glass
They said gorilla glass cost ~$3 for each phone
Their sapphire cost ~$30 for each phone, but they said that it should be ~$20 this year and under ~$10 next year
(from memory, I might be slightly off with the numbers)
6. JMartin22 (Posts: 1969; Member since: 30 Apr 2013)
I also thought Sapphire was less translucent, meaning it wouldn't let as much light through from the backplane of display, resulting in either less bright displays or higher brightness outputs resulting in more poor battery life.
Not to mention that it's also more fragile than tempered glass, it's breaks more easily and would cost a tremendous amount to repair. I hope Sapphire doesn't become another Apple-bandwagon trend if it's true
22. troutsy (Posts: 311; Member since: 17 Feb 2012)
Sapphire is a very clear material to see through, but it refracts much more light than glass. So light hitting the surface of the display at an angle is much more likely to get lost than with glass.
Fragile is a difficult word to use... Sapphire requires more force/stress to break, but it will break under much less deflection/strain. Still, I've only ever broken my screen by dropping it, and for that I would much rather have a tempered glass display.
7. Lt.Green (Posts: 397; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Asahi and Corning should join forces and create 'GorillaTrail' Glass to compete with this.
9. willard12 (Posts: 1686; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
I think the companies are fully aware of how to employ sapphire glass and actually have experience selling devices using it.
"If you’re worried about scratches diminishing the look of the Galaxy Gear, you can sleep easy knowing that it’s protected by the layer of sapphire glass over it – giving it a very slick feel to the touch." - Phone Arena
51. Sauce (unregistered)
I KNOW RIGHT!????!!!!!
27. papss (unregistered)
I can't imagine SS follow an Apple trend... That would be shocking
35. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
You mean Apple following Nokia and big copycat of Sony, which Stevejobs himself was a big Sony fanboy
39. papss (unregistered)
I still think SS wants to be like the generic version of Apple.
44. willard12 (Posts: 1686; Member since: 04 Jul 2012)
Maybe you missed the comment that the Galaxy Gear already uses sapphire glass.
28. jpd514 (Posts: 57; Member since: 08 Nov 2013)
NO game for The Patent Troll Apple
Apple used the sapphire glass for the camera lens cover and fingerprint recognition home button for the first time in the world, but it was China’s Gionee that attempted to use it as front cover glass. Earlier this year Gionee launched a new product using sapphire as cover glass. More recently Shaoni announced its ambitious plan to use sapphire in its new smartphone.
38. papss (unregistered)
Who cares.. it's a Chinese cell mfg and they don't count
32. The-Sailor-Man (banned) (Posts: 1095; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
How do you know that Apple is doing it, at all?
From your own "rumors"? Right?
Like the iWatch, iTV, iRing.....make rumors about everything possible.....so your lovery brand to be always "the first" even if Apple have no clue what you are talking.
36. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Gorilla glass is cheap, DragonTrail is better on Sony Zseries
41. xondk (Posts: 1400; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
hmm 'might' yeah, they 'might' if the advantages and price are there, but until there is something that performs better then gorilla grass at the same price point or cheaper, then they aren't going to change, of course they will look at it and see if it is viable now and then, but I don't think gorilla glass has anything to fear, and they are constantly improving, I think I read somewhere that gorilla glass was also easier/cheaper to integrate with screen solar panels though I am not sure, could just have been a user comment or such anyone know?
42. DaMaster (Posts: 33; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
As soon as Samsung and LG get on board Gorilla Glass Stock will plummet back to what it was back in 08 ,It was a good glass but its time to move on .
49. Altair (Posts: 367; Member since: 02 Feb 2012)
Offcourse those cheap copycats are following Apple. Shamesung has not been doing nothing but shamelessly copied most innovations others have made. Then they modify it a bit and call it "next big thing".
Shame on you Shamesung and other copycats. Your place is next big trashcan.