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4-inch Apple iPhone 5se might be powered by A9 chip and feature 64GB version

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4-inch Apple iPhone 5se might be powered by A9 chip and feature 64GB version
Just the other day, new information revealed that the 4-inch Apple iPhone will be named the iPhone 5se. Yesterday, we showed you an alleged  picture of the new model posing with an Apple iPhone 5. This morning, a new report fleshed out some more details about the phone.

The iPhone 5se will carry the powerful A9 chipset and the M9 co-processor found on the Apple iPhone 6s. While some prototypes of the device are powered by the A8 and M8 chips, Apple does not want the phone to fall two generations behind under the hood. That would happen once the Apple iPhone 7 is launched with the A10 and M10 on board.

Always-on Siri will also be a feature included on the iPhone 5se. Activating Apple's virtual personal assistant by saying "Hey Siri" to an unplugged iPhone was added this year to the Apple iPhone 6s and Apple iPhone 6s Plus. Previously, iPhone users could call out for Siri on units running iOS 8 or higher that were plugged into an outlet.

Apple will offer the new 4-inch model in 16GB and 64GB variants, according to today's report, and will either hold an event or just announce the phone during the week of March 14th. We also expect to see a revised Apple Watch, possibly offering Face Time, to be introduced at the same time.

Once the Apple iPhone 7 is unveiled in the fall, Apple is expected to replace the Apple iPhone 6 and Apple iPhone 6 Plus in its lineup with the iPhone 5se.

source: 9to5Mac

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posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:18 1

1. Jimrod (Posts: 1358; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


Will be all many people need really, I know plenty of people who still refuse to go for 5"+ phones. Hopefully it'll spark a revival of smaller screened mid-high end phones.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:00 3

24. Commentator (Posts: 3684; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)


Amazing to me that just a few years ago (okay, about 7 years ago) a phone this size would be considered massive.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 19:06

40. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


A little to late... I love the speed of iP6s... but I didnt want to go up from 4" iP5s... But I wanted Apple Pay and FT... Now i'm used to it... But still prefer typing on the 5s... My contract ends in 2 years so - it'll be iP7s by then...

If this was out this september - I would have gotten the 5se (stupid name, by the way)...

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:19 2

2. Baracus (Posts: 223; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)


When the Hell will Apple relax just slightly on their greed and stop with 16gb base models.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:18 1

17. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Apple relax on the greed? Are you dreaming?

This wont happen they will sink and go bankrupt before!

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:30 8

27. Well-Manicured-Man (Posts: 308; Member since: 16 Jun 2015)


Apple will stop it as soon as the competition is denying Apple the greed.

It is not the consumer's fault that Apple has that high profit margins, it is Apple's competitors fault. They allow Apple to have these high profit margins because they don't come up with a product that is valued equally much like the iPhone.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 22:17

44. joey_sfb (Posts: 5741; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


Law of demand and supply say otherwise, apple user still buy 16GB model therefore Apple will continue to supply it.

Furthermore, Apple user don't buy what Apple's competitor is making because they want an Apple iPhone. If fact, saying that there are no better alternative show that you are not in the market for anything else.

The way Apple user rational thing never fail to amaze me. They blame on other manufacturers when Apple is just maximizing profit because Apple users allow it.

Bottom line is every phone manufacturers are greedy, its just Android user have the choice of brands due to Android open platform.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 16:45 4

37. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Call Tim Cook, and tell him to stop. Make sure to let us know how the conversation goes.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:31 2

3. SirYar (Posts: 351; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Perhaps now it will be less of a rip off.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:35 3

4. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2183; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Good grief, that thing would be a screamer with the A9. If it does come with the A9, I'll stop trying to talk my wife to a 6S and just get her that. She hates the size of the new iPhones.

posted on 26 Jan 2016, 09:56 1

47. Brewski (Posts: 350; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)


Or you could man up and talk her into getting a real phone instead of an iToy.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:40 5

5. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


A9 mated to a what is likely a 640p display seems like a waste of power.

Yeah, I said it.

You have a 1440p level, media crunching, benchmark busting powerhouse running on an truly outdated screen size. Like a Nokia 3310 with the power of a high end gaming PC. Makes no sense.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:49 1

9. xondk (Posts: 1388; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Eh, they will probably up the resolution to the screen a bit and just call it super retina or something like that.

And probably keep the 16gb version

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:57

15. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Why should they ?
It will probably get much improved Retina HD from iPhone 6, but the resolution won't change much if at all.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:20 1

18. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Been looking at the screen of a 4S vs a 5S and a 6S and beside max luminosity there is not much difference in color , viewing angle ect.

So your improved retina HD is a joke!

And they will sell it for 600$ lol

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:26 1

26. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


I may believe you that you missed the difference between 5 and 6, but the difference between 4 and 5 is quite pronounced as the color gamut has changed there.

And no it's not meant as joke, Retina HD brought great improvements in all areas. And even if those might be harder to spot, they required significant investment over the years - that's why it costs so much.

If you weren't able to pickup the difference, try to put on some polarizing sunglasses because the difference couldn't be more glaring then.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:34

28. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Or maybe you can look at wider genearation gap to make the difference less difficult to spot if three is too narrow.

http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2014/09/22/iphone-vs-iphone-6-size.jpg?itok=crWqj9cl

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 16:33 1

34. sgodsell (Posts: 3627; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


It was a waste with only a HD screen, never mind a display that is even less again in resolution.

Here is something to think about. No other flagship device has come out with a HD display in years. Only Apple release's a phone with a HD 1334x750 display with a flagship price. Now they want to release a phone with even less again.

When I saw the HTC M7 released a few years ago and it had the same physical display dimension's as the current iPhone 6/6s, but the M7 had a 1080p display. Then there is NO excuse why Apple doesn't have a 1080p display in their current iPhone 6/6s. Let alone a higher resolution display in their new 4" phone.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:54

14. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Oh wait, there is no phone released.

If you use lower res, you will put less load on the GPU, you will get longer battery life with smaller screen, especially considering how big battery this thing is supposed to get.

But still there is no phone, so nobody can judge.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 16:42

35. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


Thus my "Yeah, I said it" remark. Did you get my nokia 3310 analogy?

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:56

31. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


that was the most retarded thing i had read this week, congratulations!
Btw A9 is not only more powerfull but way more energy saving and with more energy saving ram (LPDDR4) Only that is good enought reason for A9 and that is small one.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 17:12

38. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


-------------The point------------->

------------Your head--------------

It seems you have difficulty processing my analogy. I'll spell it out for you very slowly.

A typical high end gaming PC can run photorealistic games in 4K and beyond, handle countless apps with tons of usable RAM and CPU threads to spare and produce, render and edit gorgeous music, photos and videos in any every format you can dream of.

Do you really think a Nokia 3310 could access all this power?

Let's close the gap a bit to be realistic.

The A9 ran circles around every major 2015 SoC in brute GPU performance and has the benefit of running a lighter OS, has the highest selection of mobile games which almost trade blows with a PlayStation 3 in graphical fidelity. It encodes and decodes 4K video, ultra slow mo videos, Live Photo etc.

All of this is going to look terrible on a puny sub HD 4 inch phone. Poor viewing experience for $500. What happens if games can run at over 60fps because of the powerful silicon and low screen resolution? The A9 gobbles too much power if the display peaks at 60Hz. What if those games are capped at 60fps? The A9 goes underutilised and takes up PCB space when a theoretically slightly less powerful, cooler, more compact and frugal chipset (cut down A9, maybe) could do the exact same job.

There's a dynamiclimit to the acceptable resolution/size in the flagship league.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 17:22

39. vuyonc (Posts: 1014; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


*dynamic limit

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:41 2

6. tedkord (Posts: 11628; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)


No, Apple. 32gb and 64gb. Drop the 16gb.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:47 2

8. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


No...just make it 64GB period and that's it.

I think any phone that doesn't offer sdcards, should be 64GB minimum with a 128GB option.

Ay phoen with sdcards, should be 32GB and 64GB and people can drop in their own 128GB sdcard.

A phone that potentially will have low sales for whatever reason can just be in the middle.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:21 1

19. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


Wont happen Apple can milk you by selling you 64 and 128 gb option at a premium price...

Wait the 16gb version is also sold at a premium price lol.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:50 1

10. Wiencon (Posts: 1870; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)


How hard is it to understand that many people are fine with 16gb? I know it's objectively small at this price point but if you want bigger, get 64, 16 is ok for older people, or business, or people that don't load music on their phones.
Many of people say that 3 games and the storage is done but actually most people if ever they play small games, no behemoths like crap from gameloft

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:23

20. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


1-3$ more for the manufacturer to make it 64 gb.
Sold 100$ or more for 64 gb version.

See the profit they can make on this? Thats is the SOLE reason they keep the 16 gb version.

Even with no games if you take 500 picture on a 16 gb you will already have used 2 gb aproximatively.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:33

22. BradyCrack (Posts: 674; Member since: 29 Dec 2015)


No how dare you offend my favourite mobile game company!

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:59

23. Baracus (Posts: 223; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)


You hear all the time people buying a 16gb iPhone thinking it's enough only to actually start using it's features and run out of memory forcing them to buy a whole new phone, so there is no excuse for a 16gb model except pure greed from Apple.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 19:26

41. submar (Posts: 462; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)


they wont drop
since the 16gb is insufficient, many will go for 64gb for $749, and apple will get 100 bucks
if the minimum storage is 32gb , that will be enough some, and apple get $100 less from them

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:47

7. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


If I was Apple, I would have made the 4.7" be the smallest of the choices for having something 4", but not being too small.

Maybe they could have made something between the 4.7 and the 5.5

A 4.5" along with a 5.1" and then a 5.5" would be a nice spread and offering a nice variety of sizes.

4" no matter the resolution is just to tiny for reading long period. If you buy this and then buy a tablet too, than it defeats the purpose.

Even though many may still like small devices, I just dont see it taking off. Considering the 5C didn't do all that well even if it outsold many phones for a single quarter.

Bu if they make the device with recent CPU and GPU, that would be good. Constantly making phones with outdated hardware that is goign to break with 3 iOS updates would be wrong and bad for potential customers.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:05 1

16. Jimrod (Posts: 1358; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


I think 4.3-4.5" would be better than the 4.7" for people wanting smaller devices too (unless bezels were reduced on the 4.7"), it's still a bit unwieldy when trying to reach all corners of the screen one-handed - not helped by the "thinness".

I actually preferred the old iPhone 3G shape-wise because it sat nicely in the hand, Apple seem to have forgotten ergonomics in their quest to make everything thin (as many companies seem to have done in fairness). There's definitely a market for smaller phones now though, we have phablets for those after mini-workstations or games machines.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:51 1

11. Iodine (Posts: 1330; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)


Looks like a nice deal.

What's the size of it anyway ? Hope it's thinner than 7,6.

And A9 combined with supposedly large battery is going to be really nice performer.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:54 2

12. ciprian.ruse (Posts: 294; Member since: 13 May 2014)


I'm curios if Apple will launch iPhone 7 with minimum storage at 16 GB. If they do they are a joke!

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 14:25 1

21. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)


16 gb and no 3.5 mm slot with a smaller battery than the 6 and 6S ( but same mediocre battery life )

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 13:54 4

13. fyah_king (Posts: 454; Member since: 22 Jul 2013)


3.5in is the perfect size for the sheep.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:11

25. Jimrod (Posts: 1358; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


You'd know, I guess it's lonely being a shepherd...

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:52

29. stanislav (Posts: 136; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)


That sounds way better.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 15:52 1

30. Baracus (Posts: 223; Member since: 15 Sep 2012)


I'd be surprised if the battery in this thing is over 1000ma because Apple are so obsessed with thinness at the expensive of battery life that they'll stick to their standard practice of having only just a day's worth of moderate use.

posted on 26 Jan 2016, 00:29 2

46. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


Say that again after you use a 6s which easily lasts a day and a half of moderate to heavy use... Dont forget that beside very well optimized OS and features, iPhones are also notoriously best at standby mode unlike Android (unless you greenify, tasker, and what-ever-else do to it)... Not dissing android, it's got its pro's, but you're coming off as a troll. Apple has their vision for the future and so does Android - let them do what they're best at. For me Android doesnt come close to well made mobile OS - iOS is nearly perfect - but that's me and hundreds of million others - you obviously dont care for it - why lie about it?

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 16:43

36. darkkjedii (Posts: 21204; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Can't wait to see what it looks like.

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 19:46

42. Fireman111886 (Posts: 10; Member since: 18 Jan 2014)


Could this potentially be know as the iPhone 5se (Special Edition) model..?

posted on 25 Jan 2016, 20:24 1

43. oozz009 (Posts: 520; Member since: 22 Jun 2015)


Interesting, if it truly ends coming with an A9 then that would mean that we would see the "Retina Flash" on board as well :) Plus better battery thanks to the chip and the always on Siri! Also with such a small resolution, this iPhone paired with A9 and 2GB of Ram would be extremely powerful which would make it very future proof, so much in fact that I sure it would even handle iOS 12 smoothly in the future! That would really be like the rebirth of the "4-inch" iPhone. ++ _ ++

posted on 26 Jan 2016, 00:24 1

45. AlikMalix (Posts: 5836; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)


If all that is true, I would regret buying a bigger 4.7" iPhone 6s... I really liked my 5s size (and design ofcourse). Give me 5s design with 6s hardware (for todays games and apps) and it'll be best phone for me...

posted on 26 Jan 2016, 12:08 1

48. oozz009 (Posts: 520; Member since: 22 Jun 2015)


Even if they end up using the iPhone 6 design it would still look nicer than the bigger iPhone 6/6s. Hope the camera is not sticking out though.

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