In-display finger scanners do work with protectors, so what's up with the Note 9?
by Daniel Petrov / Mar 12, 2018, 5:11 AM
While Samsung reportedly ran out of time to implement in-display finger scanner on the Galaxy S8, and, now, the Galaxy S9, one could reasonably expect that the Note 9 would be the high-end gear that this type of unobtrusive fingerprint recognition technology would make a cameo in.
Note 9 won't have a reader hidden under its display glass. While a few of the reasons he cited sound familiar, the one that said such scanners won't work with screen protectors was a new thing, at least as far as Samsung's efforts are concerned. We've heard before that the first phone with such in-display optical scanner, the Vivo X20 Plus UD, may have issues with screen protectors that are above certain thickness, as that would mess up with the light reflections needed for correct readings.
The screen protector layer, however, apparently has to be very thick for the reader not to work properly. Synaptics, the creators of the optical in-display fingerprint scanning technology, reached out to us, and mentioned that Kuo may be confusing optical with ultrasonic technology regarding the Note 9, as Samsung may have experimented with both, in addition to its regular capacitive tech.
As you can see in the video above, the X20 Plus UD's scanner works sufficiently well even when a few screen protectors are stacked on top of each other, so that can't really be the excuse for Samsung to put the breaks on implementing it in the Note 9. Moreover, as exemplified in the video below, it would work even if you scratch the cover glass on top of it. So, what other reasons could there be for Samsung to implement such a sensor on the Galaxy S10 at the earliest, instead of the Note 9?
One answer may be marketing - the S Pen-touting phablet line from Samsung has enough differentiating features to cater to its niche market of loyal fans, while the S10 will need more than a few "wow" factors after the "tock" upgrade that is the Galaxy S9. Other reasons might be the ones cited by Kuo and Korean media before him.
Samsung has reportedly been developing the optical finger reader tech for two years, and has narrowed down its potential suppliers, but due to issues with speed and accuracy when implementing it under its curved panels, the R&D efforts will continue until it is certain that employing it on a mass scale for millions of potential units won't impede the user experience that its acclaimed Infinity Display design offers.
Oh, well, it's too early in the game to know anything about the S10 but that it will sport 7nm chipsets, and come with 5G-compatible modem inside, and we should know more on the in-display finger scanning front for Samsung's next high-end wonders as time progresses. For now, let's just settle down with the thought that the Note 9 will employ the same horizontal elliptical fingerprint reader under its vertical dual camera that we are currently witnessing on the Galaxy S9+. Some like it on the back, after all.
Posts: 1625; Member since: Feb 11, 2013
maybe they wan't to wait until the technology matures abit.
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 5:14 AM 1
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But Samsung is known for using technology that hasn't matured. Using technology once its has time to mature and be fully functional is Apples deal, not Samsung's...
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 6:04 AM 10
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Meh, they're probably waiting to launch it on the galaxy X (or whatever), as there'll be nothing else that's new to market their galaxy S 10th anniversary. Even at that, it'll still be old news anyway. Face ID is the new shiny..
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 6:38 AM 2
It's getting to a point now where the only difference between the s plus line and the note line is an s pen and a €200 difference in price.
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 5:18 AM 2
Posts: 678; Member since: May 27, 2015
Samsung should just install one from the factory that they know works. If people don't want it on there, they can peel it off. Some people like them, some don't. This current tech does not look very reliable at all. Samsung says they are getting away from "being first" all the time, instead wanting to perfect the technology.
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 5:29 AM 0
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Samsung only copy, they are waiting to copy it
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 5:42 AM 4
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they already have the tech so theres no point copying something they have.
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 6:31 AM 7
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Yes. They are waiting for the whole mighty god “SONY” to do it.
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 7:24 AM 1
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it is an optical sensor it is obviously gonna work the thing is it reduces is the accuracy and increases the timing it needs to work anyhow the in(under) display sensor will be kept for the anniversary device next year which is obvious really
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 5:45 AM 1
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Maybe because Samsung makes millions of phones and can't afford another Note7? I mean it's way easier for Vivo and all those other random companies to rush the technology knowing that there won't be any consequences if something goes wrong...
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 6:21 AM 0
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I think it's because vivo is more of a risk taker than anything. They only sold around 50 to 70 million handsets last year so being a random company and knowing there won't be any consequences pretty much makes sense. I think
posted on Mar 12, 2018, 2:20 PM 0
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