Note 9 won't have in-display finger scanner, but the Galaxy S10 might

Well, it was too good to be true. The in-display finger scanner of the Galaxy Note 9, that is, as rumors that Samsung won't be ready to produce those in mass quantities for the S9, but may be for the Note 9, are quickly getting deflated.

Korean media is reporting today that the Note 9 will come with the good ol' rear-mounted finger scanner, probably just the one you are seeing on the latest Galaxy S9 renders. Yes, it is apparently still working with a variety of suppliers, as well as the technology's creators from Synaptics, to introduce a fingerprint reader embedded in the display itself, but the setup will be mastered next year at the earliest.

It turns out that, while there is already a phone with in-display scanner, the Vivo X20 Plus UD, and it does come with OLED display, Samsung's efforts in the field had to deal with its current curved Infinity Display design, which has been challenging, to say the least. If an optical reader of this type was embedded under the display, it had issues with the OLED display's semi-transparency, and hence reliability. A more orthodox capacitive type reader, on the other side, could be made relatively transparent, but has to be mounted on top of the display, which presented issues with durability.

Finally, an ultrasonic finger scanner could be the Holy Grail of the in-display types, but that technology is still in its nascence to land in the Note 9, which will enter mass production in June, tip insiders. By nascence we mean that it's still very expensive, challenging to produce in mass quantities, and is slower than a rear-mounted scanner would be. Still, there is some progress, it seems, as Samsung has limited its large amount of initial in-display finger scanner suppliers to just a few, and is devoted to working with them on R&D efforts. 

"There are advantages and disadvantages of both optical and capacitive or ultrasonic types, so I do not think there is any technology that can be commercialized right now," tipped one industry insider. "Next year, Samsung Electronics I think will succeed to mount it."

source: The Bell (translated)



1. Ciro1900

Posts: 591; Member since: Dec 17, 2017

Lol they have been like this since the s7, Some years will succeed

19. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

They will implement it when they ran out of gimmicks to sell.

2. youssef44

Posts: 547; Member since: Apr 29, 2014

That's soo bad to use finger scanner on the back again. I hope this is fake news....

5. haruken

Posts: 308; Member since: Nov 06, 2013

Translation => it's basically ready but we want to keep it for the 10 years anniversary phones next year.

15. TerryD

Posts: 560; Member since: May 09, 2017

ie. we're running out of ideas so we need to bring this out when people stop buying our phones

6. darkkjedii

Posts: 31670; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Note 9 will be the best phone of 2018, but it'll be an incremental upgrade over the best of 2017 (Note 8). I think I'm gonna skip a phone in 2018, and get the Note 10, and iPhone 11 in 2019. My Note doesn't even have 8.0 yet, and it's killing the game.

7. bucky

Posts: 3795; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

*best phone for you* and probably temporary at that.

30. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Samsung's phone always get phone of the year award, many people actually agree with him.

9. cmdacos

Posts: 4334; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Best phone by far Dark. Nothing I have tried or tested comes close to the full feature set that the Note has. I agree that I am wondering what is going to compel me to upgrade in 2018 but I know myself well and will be upgrading without question.

21. darkkjedii

Posts: 31670; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Owning this phone, it's gonna take something spectacular to get me to upgrade bro. I simply see no need to upgrade, and I can imaging once oreo arrives. The Note 8 just kills it for me, and leaves me desiring nothing. I can't wait to see the Note 9 though.

24. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 715; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

I recall you saying each year you would skip bust flagship because the one you already own is so great. In the end you alway buy the new one when it arrives.

27. darkkjedii

Posts: 31670; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

See post 6, then see post 21. When you respond, see them again in reverse order.

8. maherk

Posts: 7029; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I don't get it why people are so excited about this feature, as I can see plenty of cons for placing a fingerprint scanner under the screen. For now, we know that it won't work with a screen protector, that it will have issues if the screen gets scratches, and it will be useless if the screen gets cracked. What about the oleophobic coating, what will happen to it after placing your finger hundreds of times per day in the same area. I don't get it why Sony's placement isn't being copied by other manufacturers, as it's the most ideal placement for bezeless phones.

10. Sparkxster

Posts: 1247; Member since: Mar 31, 2017

Exactly! While I am intrigued by the under the display fingerprint scanner I feel that Sony and Razer have the best placement of the fingerprint sensor.

13. KRT55

Posts: 11; Member since: Mar 30, 2016

If they use an ultra sonic fingerprint scanner which is their ultimate goal. Every point you said is irrelevant. 1 yes it will work through a screen protector the same way it would work completely underneath glass or even metal. 2 it won't be useless if screen is cracked because it is completely under glass. 3 Oleophobic point is irrelevant same point as saying someone who uses a pattern password everyday swiping the same areas of the screen

16. TerryD

Posts: 560; Member since: May 09, 2017

'I don't get it why Sony's placement isn't being copied by other manufacturers, as it's the most ideal placement for bezeless phones.' This. Did Sony patent the idea or something?

18. Humanoid

Posts: 1226; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

Seems like JDI in-screen can work better. Also it does not requires oled, so even low ends can have it.

22. darkkjedii

Posts: 31670; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

It's not even a biggie for me. I'm fine with where it's at now. I've gotten used to it.

31. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

I agree I don't get the big deal having a FPS under the screen.

11. Tony_5600

Posts: 82; Member since: Apr 09, 2017

That’s Samsung for you as usual. The more you get closer to release date the more disappointing rumours you start to hear. Be prepared to hear more disappointing news in future.

14. cmdacos

Posts: 4334; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Said about every phone ever...

12. cmdacos

Posts: 4334; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

"What about the oleophobic coating, what will happen to it after placing your finger hundreds of times per day in the same area." No issues so far for me. I unlock by pressing the virtual home button everytime due to my smart lock setup. No degredation for me. I agree scratches may be an issue but otherwise there won't be any issues that I can see for me. Much rather it be underscreen than on the back or side.

17. Humanoid

Posts: 1226; Member since: Dec 11, 2017

VIVO could do that and Sammy not.

23. Poptart2828

Posts: 467; Member since: Jan 23, 2018

Vivo's customers have always allowed them to be a risk taker while Samsung cannot be if they want to sell units in the US.

20. Jrod99

Posts: 779; Member since: Jan 15, 2016

Really lost interest in this tech. Just continue with multiple options and locate scanner in better place. All will be good.

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26. SanDiegoFreddy

Posts: 49; Member since: Oct 27, 2014

It will supposedly be implemented on the OnePlus 6. Hopefully it works well. That will most likely be my next phone, but not because of the fingerprint scanner.

28. Cat97

Posts: 1983; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

This will be a bad year for Samsung, they have been very lazy.

29. LionStone

Posts: 1048; Member since: Dec 10, 2010

Yea, you'd think of all the billions they are making off all these suckers, they'd have no problem implementing this tech. And oh yea, the S10 "might" have it...

32. imlegitcusimthasht

Posts: 306; Member since: Jan 30, 2017

I love the idea of a front sensor to unlock with out picking up devices if you just want to keep your phone on your wireless charging stand, but would you really want it built into the screen. If the screen shatters, it would be an issue, currently only thinner screen protectors work, these are based off of the Synaptics component. I much prefer a front scanner, but and would love a truly bezeless or almost non existent design, but it's not a good idea if the fingerprint scanner has to be under the glass. I'm used to the S8 and Note 8 front design, so I guess it doesn't bother me if a device can habe tiny top and bottom and bezels. Helps have a portion to grip to and looks very symmetrical. Just hope they will at least keep the top and bottom bezel small or even smaller and some how still squeeze in a tiny long oval scanner loke the Huawei Mate 10, non pro.

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