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iPhone sales to continue sliding until next iPhone
Sales of the iPhone have likely slowed down since Apple’s historic record shattering Holiday quarter, and the slowdown is expected to continue all the way by the launch of the new iPhone, expected in the third quarter of 2012, according to analysts from Canaccord.

The latest sales data from carriers seems to confirm the slowdown. Back in Q4 2011, Verizon Wireless sold 4.3 million iPhone, while in the first three months of 2012, the number slipped to 3.2 million.

“Our recent channel checks indicate modestly slowing iPhone 4S sell-through trends in developed markets,” Canaccord analyst Mike Walkley wrote. “We have lowered near-term iPhone unit estimates, but we have increased our F2013 iPhone estimates as we anticipate very strong demand for an LTE iPhone 5 ramping during the December quarter. We maintain our belief Apple is well positioned for strong sales and earnings growth driven by new product introductions across its portfolio.”

This led to Walkley raising his target for Apple stock to $740, and holding by a “Buy” rating. The analyst expects Apple to post strong results on Tuesday, but he gave a lower earnings per share estimate for fiscal 2012 of $43.13, down from $44.58.

source: Canaccord via BGR

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posted on 19 Apr 2012, 09:55 31

1. bloodline (Posts: 688; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Galaxy S3. ICS/Jelly Bean. Windows 8....

Bye bye iphone

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 09:59 15

2. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)


I dont think so....

WIth Win 8 its more like Bye bye Android. Apple sale are expected to slide because most people looking to upgrade are waiting until iPhone 5 comes out.

Its funny... every week I read someones post stating that once the Smasung XXX or the HTC XXX comes out iPhone will be history. Does it ever happen? No!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:04 18

4. kshell1 (Posts: 1141; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


You also always claim that the next iphone will dominate android. It hasn't happened yet. Look at the market share, Android has quite a bit of a lead over iOS. I can guarantee this is not a year of destruction for the mobile OS industry but flourishing.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:05 10

21. max9777 (Posts: 57; Member since: 11 Dec 2011)


@kshell1 I am not the biggest Iphone fan, but sir you not right. Iphone makes 1 phone a year and sales a phenomena. There is a Android phone being released almost every 2 weeks. Now try to figure out why Android sales are higher. If you take a single high end Android phone. I phone just stomps on it like a roach.

And before you start calling me an Isheep or other useless attacks.. Go do some research.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:36 9

29. kshell1 (Posts: 1141; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


I didn't plan on calling you an sheep, if you ask me so far the only android to even approach the iphone in sales is the galaxy s2, more possibly the galaxy s3 this year.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 15:51 6

52. ZEUS.the.thunder.god (unregistered)


well sir, it also means that there is only one device available for ios. people dont have a choice to buy any other phone running on the same os. while android phones competes not only with idevices and windows but also with other android devices. guess you also need to do some research.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:06 5

22. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)


I guess my argument can be used against me. I simply think, and this is just my opinion, that developers are sick of Android because of obvious reasons and will flurish with iOS and WP.

Market shares can be argued until we are blue in the face. Data is manipulated on both sides of the argument.

This is a winless argument and I'm ok with that. I like iOS and i like Android. I just prefer one more than the other.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:37 8

30. kshell1 (Posts: 1141; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


You seem like a good guy, but like you said you prefer one more than the other, everybody has their own preferences.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:46 5

32. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)


Thanks kshell1,

I enjoy a good debate when it comes to technology. Discussions like these allow us the chance to learn somthing that we didnt already know about a product we might not have purchased.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 14:46 3

50. ilia1986 (unregistered)


You know what truly makes me sad? The insane amount of potential that could have been had in iOS, had Apple opted to make it an open source OS.

If that would have happened - there would be very little need for Android in the industry. Sure, Android would still exist just for the sake of the google syncing and stuff, but nowhere near what it is now, and Apple could have absolutely owned the entire smartphone market with at least 60 - 70 percent market share by now, AND have a 600,000,000 times more capable mobile OS by now.

But what of the non-techy consumer you might ask? Well the solution is simple! Just leave iOS as it is now in it's default state, but make a switch called "Advanced Customization" in the settings menu activating which would present the user with a new license agreement according to which Apple is not held responsible to any damage done to the device, etc etc - and allow the user to access the filesystem of the device, change everything in it and subsequently change any aspect of the OS.

If only..

But no. And that's why my next phone is an Android phone.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:07 14

40. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


just my 2 cents, but WP7 will pull potential new customers from iOS before it pulls them from Android. People that want a simple, easy to use interface on rails so they dont have to think about it go for iOS and WP7. Those that want to be able to tinker or have more options in general go for Android.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:17 3

43. kshell1 (Posts: 1141; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


I give respect to apple in the form that they know how to sell a product extremely well. Otherwise it just isn't my type of phone, the better specs are what I need especially when my friends get mad at their iphones because they drop them or they freeze. If that happens i typically recommend to them to get a high end android

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 15:59 1

53. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)


people that purchase an iphone are 80-90% satisfied.. check the polls.. unlike Android users that most likely will buy or get e free android phone expecting big things out of... bottom line people that buy the iphone knows what are they getting.. android buyers.. well is a toss up...

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 16:25 3

56. kshell1 (Posts: 1141; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


I buy my android's after research, its just a preference of course, and gallito i respect your preference as a ios user, that doesn't mean i exactly have to like it lol.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:12 13

7. ilia1986 (unregistered)


How exactly Windows Mobile is a threat to Android?

In fact - how can anything besides WebOS be a threat to Android?

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:27 6

13. ardent1 (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


> How exactly Windows Mobile is a threat to Android?

Isn't that the same logic by the RIMM executive who stated (here I am paraphrasing): "Who wants to type on glass" as a slam on the new iPhone.

Windows Mobile is a threat because several android OEMs are paying a licensing fee to MicroSoft, who then uses the mobile to promote their windows phones. Image that!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 18:19

61. Whateverman (Posts: 3162; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Yeah, between $5-15. But what do you think they will have to pay for Windows, which has its own licensing fee?

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 06:57 1

65. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i remember reading somewhere that the old windows was like a 25 per set licence fee. Its probably around the same I'd imagine.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 11:01

68. Whateverman (Posts: 3162; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Wow, that is cheap!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:10 2

25. Pdubb (Posts: 237; Member since: 08 Aug 2011)


Windows Mobile is no more so it is definitely not a threat.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:20 8

11. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Windows sales are no threat to anyone besides Microsoft and Nokias dignity,European networks have spoken out in recent days of how poor the lumia sales for example have been and today we see nokias US sales being poor also. People just don't like the ui or windows grid styling and its just as simple as that unfortunately

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:37 4

16. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1227; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


well you haven't gotten your facts right , at this rate iPhone users are getting attacked by the windows phone market and those who want to shift buy a wp7 or a note , android is not bye bye because as soon as the lower end androids get in the dumbphone smartphone market , its bye bye ios marketshare

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:28 4

26. shadowcell (Posts: 300; Member since: 28 Mar 2012)


Avatar of Ron Burgundy? Seems legit. Anything this man says is the truth.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:52 1

33. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


I do think so...
We do think so...

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:09

24. GENARAL.LEVY (banned) (Posts: 93; Member since: 17 Apr 2012)


True....

Maybe maybe not......

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 16:22 2

54. EclipseGSX (Posts: 1476; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Replying to another one of your dysfunctional multi-personality disorder induced accounts? how sad

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:03 7

3. PhoneLuver (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


The New iPad is also not going to sell very well outside North America.

The fact that they don't support European LTE frequencies will definitely influence sales. Some operators are even refusing to sell the device as it would confuse their customers! ("Yes our network has 4G and yes the NEW iPad supports 4G, but only in the U.S. and Canada, but we expect you to pay a premium for the device!")

It's a major fail for Apple!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:36 4

15. ardent1 (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


"but we expect you to pay a premium for the device!"

Huh??? What planet are you (i.e. PhoneLuver) from?

iPad are STILL being sold at the same price of $499 for 16 GB WIFI edition despite improvements to date. The prior model is being discount $100 to $399.

To be clear -- despite the new processor, retina display, improved battery, 4G service in North America (for those people that want to visit here), it's the same price as before -- $499!! That is to say, from an INFLATION-ADJUSTED price perspective, the new iPad is cheaper than the prior iPads, respectively. This fact contradicts PhoneLuver's assertion the new iPad is being sold at a premium.

Btw, that retina display is the best display in today's tablet market. It's a game changer.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 12:10 1

38. taz89 (Posts: 1949; Member since: 03 May 2011)


but as the parts get easier to produce the price comes down..this happens with almost every phone makers or tech makers etc,when a newer models comes out it usually takes place of the last gen model therefore the same price...we all know that apple wont take $100 hit on each ipad...personally think any tablet for $500 is too much...waiting for a $200-$250 tablet before i purchase one.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:14

42. cripton805 (Posts: 907; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)


It's already been done and cheaper alternatives too. Heck, I've seen them as low as $50 for a 7". It wasn't the nicest tablet, but I'm sure probably functional for basic needs.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:24

46. taz89 (Posts: 1949; Member since: 03 May 2011)


i know there are cheap tablets but there are not very good...the only good one i knoe of it the samsung galaxy tab 7 2 which is 250 but no contract but is not out in the uk and also the rumoured the nexus tabet.

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 05:25

64. PhoneLuver (Posts: 460; Member since: 05 Jul 2010)


@ Ardent. All Apple products are sold at a premium! The only difference is that operators are subsidizing the cost of iDevices. You can't honestly expect operators to subsidize an incompatible product!

The world over operators are launching LTE and would love nothing more than to launch with a Flagship product. That product could have been the NEW iPad with it's "game changing" retina display and LTE! All I'm saying is that it's a major missed opportunity for Apple and a headache inducing product as operators will be left to answer why the NEW iPad isn't supported!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:04 14

5. appleDOESNT.com (Posts: 391; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


"since Apple’s historic record shattering Holiday quarter" lol @ the wording chosen for a media article on a supposedly non fanboy website. You know that record quarter was based on highest profit margins on a rebadged 2 year old iPhone 4 that basically screwed millions into buying more of apple's old crap sold as new. Historic ripoff more like.

The love for apple on this site iS SiMPLY DiSGUSTiNG

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:14

8. rg987 (Posts: 130; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


simply agree with ur last sentence

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:35 2

14. good2great (Posts: 1036; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)


is the love for android on here pure?

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:34 2

28. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


YES...!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:30 1

27. TROLL (banned) (Posts: 4851; Member since: 13 Apr 2012)


Love Android!
Like Ios....

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:38 2

31. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)


at the time of the released of the iphone 4s it wasnt 2 years... you started with wrong facts and ended with one as well... nice try fandroid

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:55 4

35. appleDOESNT.com (Posts: 391; Member since: 19 Nov 2011)


and maybe, just maybe, the sales are sliding because the same core iFans are getting sick of buying $300(on contract)-$750(off contract) for incremental upgrades year after year. This is gonna catch up to Apple sooner or later, only the devout iFans will keep coming back at those prices for old crap sold as new.

Apple is the king of incremental forced upgrades by withholding features, aka Siri, is just the latest in a long line of forced upgrades for a software enhancement that was originally a free app on the iPhone4 in the first place!

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 12:48 1

39. gp284 (Posts: 120; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


then dont come on the website

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:05 2

6. rg987 (Posts: 130; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)


very less people like iphone........i also dont like it.........and just see a little bit above the comments potion...........that small ratings portion......there PHONEARENA has given 8.5/10 but see users have given 7.8 out of 10.............but in most other cases , phonearena gives less ratings but user ratings are high

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:18 3

9. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


iPhone sales slide all the time after the ifanatics q relentlessly for days apon initial release to buy the new iPhone,then after these folks get the phones the sales dither,all fans with older iphone models immediately update as soon as a 'new' one is released in order to keep social acceptance.

Funny thing is that due to low stock for many months by the time many ifans actually get an iphone the next one is only about 5 months away and they start saving immediately to buy it apon release,its the apple circle of life

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 12:07 2

37. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)


wrong again. most people that bought the iphone 4 didnt feel the need to get the iphone 4s.. so please do research before you speak mr "salesman"....

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 23:48 1

63. xtian1103 (Posts: 352; Member since: 11 Feb 2012)


galaxy nexus sales slid from day one! android fanatics also queue in line for that device last december. what happened now?

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:20 1

10. AndroidShiz (Posts: 145; Member since: 08 Nov 2011)


Just buy the phone you like. I personally like the Galaxy Nexus GSM version so will likely stay with the Nexus line from here on out. It's handling everything I throw at it so far even though it's only dual core. I'm sure it will be fine until the next Nexus or two comes out. Most satisfying Android I've owned to date. First Android I didn't have to cover up the UI.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 10:22 1

12. chuckyoo (Posts: 34; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


Iphone is very nice, I love the phone but the screen is too small. I have a GS2 and if the next iphone's screen is increased, I will gladly buy it. I have owned the IOS and loved it especially the apps in the app store. the quality is next to none. Let's not forget that even with the mass competition, apple still holds its own. Think about it, there are countless android phones to compete against ONE apple iphone. Apple sets the standards and makes great phones even though you have no freedom with the phone, it is still worth it. Just keep it real with yourself.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:57 2

36. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


If apple released more than ONE phone...it would cut into their own sales. Instead of you pointing out the fact that Apple doesnt give you choices....you use it as an excuse for their market share diminishing since 2007. As far as I know, Apple has the constitutional right to release more than 1 phone per year. I can only assume they have assessed they shouldnt do it for economic/sales reasons.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:00 3

17. FoneAddict (Posts: 176; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


Windows Mobile a threat to Android? WTF?? hahaha lol in your dreams

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:02 6

18. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


people on this site are either the fans of:-
1)iPhone
OR
2)Samsung.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:19 1

44. Fallout09 (Posts: 410; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


Wrong. HTC.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:47 2

47. GENARAL.LEVY (banned) (Posts: 93; Member since: 17 Apr 2012)


Nope...
Like both, but love android more....

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 16:41

57. atheisticemetic (Posts: 377; Member since: 18 Dec 2011)


it's too bad both are garbage

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:03 1

19. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


people on this site are either the fans of:-
1)iPhone
OR
2)Samsung.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:03

20. Jericho (Posts: 302; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)


people on this site are either the fans of:-
1)iPhone
OR
2)Samsung.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:08 3

23. GENARAL.LEVY (banned) (Posts: 93; Member since: 17 Apr 2012)


This changes everthing iPhone 5.....

Maybe maybe not?

Who knows?

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 11:54 2

34. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Sales sliding because of a new phone release? In other news if it rains while sunny out you can see a rainbow.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:08 2

41. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


taco. another bad omen for your bet. Samsung is expected to post record shattering Q1, while Apple is expected to be down 20% in sales.. like normal (they always spike then slide).

Been almost nice knowin ya.

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 17:01 1

59. gallitoking (Posts: 4630; Member since: 17 May 2011)


even with 20% down in sales.. is more than Samsung for the quarters... and expected is not the same as they actually did... experts are never right... so just sit back and wait

posted on 20 Apr 2012, 06:59

66. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


lol, your a riot. theyve already announced that samsung probably over took apple for smartphone sales AND nokia for total sales. It was a fools bet from the beginning. :)

posted on 19 Apr 2012, 13:24 1

45. ibap (Posts: 675; Member since: 09 Sep 2009)


Regarding comment #21 (currently 4th in the list) - Let's at least compare oranges to oranges. You can't compare all iPhones out there to any one Android phone. This argument would work if there were only one Android phone out there, and only one iPhone model out there. If that is what you want to compare, just say so.

How about this one - There are more Android users out there using their phones than there are iPhone users out there.

And I hate to type on glass, which rules out a lot of the Android phones as well. I'll use whatever I think will work best for me. And I've been through Windows phones up through version 6, Treos (Palm and Windows), and Androids. (No Blackberries.) And the only one that didn't have a physical keyboard was my current one, which I won from Radio Shack, and it daily confirms how much I hate to type on glass. And the next one will have a physical keyboard.

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