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The next Lumia update name rumored, developer preview may be coming any moment now

The next Lumia update name rumored, developer preview may be coming any moment now
Microsoft has barely launched its Denim firmware and rumors are already floating about, pointing at the name for the next update. The rumors seem believable, as they stem from screenshots, made on what appears to be the Developer Preview for Windows Phone 8.1 GDR 2. The preview was rumored to be available on the 8th of October, though that didn't happen.

Well, it looks like developers may soon get it, after all, as the guys over at WMPoweruser did some (or maybe – a lot) of digging through the boundless Internet and found some screenshots, hidden in some Vietnamese and Chinese sites, which show a device, toting Microsoft's latest update for the WP, and it's named "Lumia Emerald".

Jumping to a new update, after Denim, is not such a surprise, as the last firmware only brought some fine-tunings to Cortana, and speed improvements to the camera. Now, we don't have a full list of what "Emerald" will bring, but here's what previous rumors said:

  • Mobile Data on/off toggle in the Action Center (finally?)
  • Support for Snapdragon 805
  • Support for 2K resolution
  • Cortana alpha version available in more regions
  • Settings menu to be ordered alphabetically (finally x2) and to probably have a search option

Back in September, some speculated that GDR 2 will be rolling out around November, but we wouldn't take that to be the truth. Seeing as the Developer Preview hasn't rolled out yet, we'd wager that "Emerald" may go live for regular users after the holiday season.


via: WMPoweruser

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posted on 17 Oct 2014, 06:35 9

1. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


'Mobile Data on/off toggle in the Action Center (finally?)'

lolwut ? All these features are still not there ?! At least copy correctly, MS.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 06:59 5

3. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


" All these features are still not there ?! "

witch "all" would that be ? i see just one...

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:45 1

6. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Personally the biggest lacking feature is, that still can't set/change a 3rd party app as a default app for a specific task.

Apart from that, how about the lack of replacing the customizable keyboards ? The inbuilt keyboard's swipe predictions are absolutely appalling and doesn't support multi-languages at a time like swift/swype.

WP doesn't even let you change the wallpaper !

I still don't a banking app for any of my banks including AMEX. Many others like Snapchat, Tinder, Starbucks, etc. Even the ones which are there are either poorly update and have very bad rating. Overall, the quality of apps is also very subpar.

Also, I rely heavily on Google services so those apps aren't there either. Nor do any new apps are ever introduced on WP (in most cases).

Cortana still not available in several regions.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:54 4

8. Settings (Posts: 1718; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Dont bash WP on things you cant find on the ecosystem. Blame the devs not developing on the system, they still dont find WP worth investing in especially Google.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 08:09 1

10. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


How is a lack of simple feature like changing wallpaper, lack of 3rd party default app and mobile data on/off toggle devs fault ?

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 08:42 1

13. Settings (Posts: 1718; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Huh you're finding apps not available on WP. Its the devs fault.
Also, toggles were new in WP 8.1, give it a slack. It doesn't mean if a certain feature of an OS should be also present on another OS.
Lastly, you know that Cortana is still on BETA, whining its lack of regional support would be useless.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 09:26 1

18. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


All I hear is excuses.

You can blame BETA versions or new update but the short version is they don't have it.

MS was already late with Cortana and quicktoggles. The least they could do is copy properly. WP is on the market for ages and for a company of their size to move at snails pace is unacceptable.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 10:06 2

22. Settings (Posts: 1718; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Snail's pace? Android took 6 years and 10 versions before they got their personal assistant. WP took only 4 years and 4 versions to get Cortana.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 18:03

39. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Do you even think when you write ? So are you saying all the OS started working on voice assistant as soon as their OS came to life ?

By your logic, if tomorrow Cortana comes to full Windows, then would it be okay if I said since 1980s (when the first MS-dos came to life) and only now Cortana has come to life ? So it took MS 33 years to develop Cortana for full Windows ?!

It maybe difficult for you to comprehend but nor Apple, nor Google and nor MS started working on Voice assistants since they were incepted. So giving how old the OS is just plain bat-stupid !

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 21:27

40. Liveitup (Posts: 1798; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)


Transparent tiles wallpaper with the parralex effect is arguably coolest wallpaper if any OS.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 08:41 4

12. domenicojimmy (Posts: 1; Member since: 17 Oct 2014)


1. I agree with you
2. Appalling? I don't think you've ever used it. Fastest keyboard since wp7, prediction is perfect, it's even better now. iOS let change keyboard only with iOS 8 (7 years after its release)
3. It lets you change your start screen tile wallpaper. Changing the background wallpaper would be useless, all your tiles would cover it. Windows phone does not use static icons.
3. Developers works for money, WP market share is not enough for some of them.
4. Google does not want WP to grow (fear of competition?) we had the best app on youtube on every platform (no ads, video download), Google removed it. Microsoft ecosystem is even better integrated.
5. Neither was Siri six month after its release.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 09:34 3

19. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


2. Did you read my comment ? I said it doesn't support mult-language predictions.

3. Still there could be more colours then black and white.

4. Google removed it because ads is the only place where Google makes money. So if you put ads then don't expect google to play nice.

5. MS, like always, was already few years late with Cortana then the competition. The least they could do is expand it faster.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 09:00 4

14. elitewolverine (Posts: 5188; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


3rd party app for a specific task. Which is good, though hardly works seemlessly. Of multiple 3rd party 'message' apps, that were supposed to be the default, i ended up getting 2-3 notifications elsewhere, even after removing it didnt reset default. I would sometimes have to uninstall and reinstall 2 times or 4 times, to get it truly to work like people/you wanted it to. Not all the time but it did happen to multiple phones of mine.

Keyboards? Sure i suppose, sorry i dont pick a phone because of the keyboard, then again the keyboard in WP has always been towted by all as 'excellent'.

Change the wallpaper? Of what? the phone? i can, the lock screen? i can. Or are we still stuck on the messaging app? Which wallpaper?!

Banking app, blame the app developer, because with them even google wouldnt have it. Amex, sure wish one was avail but guess what, my bank isnt even on android, its a web wrapper.

Snapchat, 6snap, Tinder (avail dont know the name), Starbucks - Sbux.

These are not poor apps, nor are their ratings 'abysmyl' they work quite well actually and the sbux app i find to be better than my starbucks app (save from adding cash since its a 3rd party). Subpar is a matter of 'opinion' and i hardly believe you have used them side by side.

You rely on google, your choice. You are asking Google a competing platform to support another platfrom, considering the history of google, i wouldnt hold my breath. However you can find various MS services on Google, go figure.

Cortana is in BETA, and grows regions everyday, as well as google now (which was not avail in all regions at launch).

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 09:20 2

16. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


You can find reasons to blame Google or Developers for WP's shortfall but to general consumers they are not available PERIOD !

Not sure if MS is making it easier for dev with three different OS Full Windows, RT and WP.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 11:15 2

31. elitewolverine (Posts: 5188; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)


Nor sure if MS is making it easier? Do you live under a rock? Since win8 nearly 80% of code was share able, move to 8.1 and if memory serves right some apps can share 90%. And now with VB, you click universal app and build the two apps TOGETHER, on the same code in the same enviroment. If that is not easier, then hell.

There is no 'find reasons', your mind simply cannot wrap it's mind around that WP does not control Developers, they can try to bring them onboard, but Android did not start at 350,000 apps or a million apps either. This is not a shortfall, it is a mind not able to grasp, developer vs os.

General consumers? You mean the ones toting around android phones that are useless with more than 5 apps installed on them? You know the 56% of them that have what is considered a 'entry-low-end' android. Ever try to download the 'countless' apps you want onto an android with 4gb of ram?

The General consumer, wants, social apps, a few games, and some bank apps (and thats an iffy because half the customers i talk to and deal with, dont want their bank info on their device, it is a hit or miss with personality).

Hell half the consumers wouldn't even know google runs android.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 12:06

34. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Wow.....I love it when I get under the skin of you fanboys. Its fun seeing you guys getting angry and taking it personally as if I actually hurt your feelings. lol..... Keep'em coming !

When you are raging so much you actually forget to talk sense:

'Ever try to download the 'countless' apps you want onto an android with 4gb of ram?'
-Sorry but I am not aware of any phone with 4GB of ram.

'You mean the ones toting around android phones that are useless with more than 5 apps installed on them?'

-Hmmmm,.....So explain me this, if that is the case then why do people keep buying android phones inspite of such crappy experience as you mentioned ? Why is android's growth so far exceeding and how come it still got hold of 80% mkt share ?

posted on 23 Oct 2014, 01:59

44. Ganvartin (Posts: 5; Member since: 05 Feb 2013)


"Why do people keep buying android phones?"

Well, putting it in simple words, your lagdroids are Cheap lookalikes of the IOS devices. That's why people go for it.

Also, I love it when you guys couldn't really bear to see something fresh, which never happened with you.

BTW, I hope you've installed all the 1000+ calculator apps on your device. Lollypop? Really? I now know why Android Sucks :-p

posted on 18 Oct 2014, 10:44

43. Philipand96 (Posts: 101; Member since: 12 Jul 2014)


So here is my list of demands

1) Alarms that run on vibrate (calls will vibrate for a DURATION)
ATM W8 if you mute the sound the phone vibrates once only!

2) Clipboard, As on Android
ATM W8 only ONE copy is allowed

3) Security features allowed to run in background
ATM W8 lock screen prevent fake call and anti theft (motion) when lock screen kicks in

4) Password protected apps
ATM no password so data is on display of some apps that need password

5) Web navigation
ATM “recent” is a poor tool. Scroll forward and backwards is needed

6) Folders or "pin-able" to home screen
Some Apps are dire and that is in insult to the word dire.

On Android bookmarks/ favourites can be pinned to the home page
When they are pinned to a home page they display the iconwww.google.com and perform like an app with the "G" displayed & one touch open

If the bookmark cannot be added then a folder which has the favourite bookmarks

7) Microsoft addresses the low criteria that allows some of these app into the app store
Some apps clearly have never worked; there is no supporting screen shot and no updates in over 2 years eg An Tu Tu April 2012 install and not touched since so W7,

8) Sim card change alert and anti theft
ATM none, the US is talking about putting in a kill switch in all phones
All W8 security is sim card lock and phone lock, there is NO standalone Anti-theft apps.
Android change the sim card and security alerts 2 pre-arranged number etc

If ALL my demands aren’t met I’ll eat one of the hostages

But to be fair each upgrade ads a lot of functionality and if I am correct Window has separated the duplicity of “contacts” being both under phone and contacts

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 09:11 1

15. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


"WP doesn't even let you change the wallpaper !"

WHATTTTTT ????

"Also, I rely heavily on Google services so those apps aren't there either. Nor do any new apps are ever introduced on WP (in most cases). "

Blame google

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 10:00 2

21. Penny (Posts: 1653; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


I understand most of what you said tech2, but I vehemently disagree with your assessment of the keyboard.

I've texted extensively on a couple of different Android devices and Windows Phones, and the typing experience has been FAR better on Windows Phone for me. The standard typing and predictive text on Windows Phone is far, far better. I am pretty much relegated to swiping on Android to have a decent typing experience. That being said, the swiping experience on Android is accurate and probably slightly edges out the swiping accuracy on Windows Phone.

Overall though, definitely a better typing experience on WP for me.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 10:26

25. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


With prediction I am was mainly referring with regards to multi-language support. Swype/Swift support two or more languages when predicting at a time. Also, their language support catalogue is huge. I am sure many people use more then one language when typing.

3rd party apps are far more versatile then default inbuilt keyboards.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 10:44

28. Penny (Posts: 1653; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)


Ah, ok. Have not tried texting in a language other than English, so can't comment there.

Third party support is always nice to have, but I must appreciate that MS strives to give you a good experience out of the box knowing that, with the current state of their ecosystem, they can't always rely on a third party to supply chunks of the user experience for them.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 11:17 1

32. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


Yeah inbuilt keyboard wise I'll have to give an edge to WP as well. It just seems a bit more accurate then android's inbuilt keyboard.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 10:46

30. ihavenoname (Posts: 1693; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)


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posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:00 7

4. NokiaFTW (Posts: 2072; Member since: 24 Oct 2012)


iOS doesn't have this toggle. Stock Android didn't have the toggle until Lollipop.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 07:46 1

7. sniper1087 (Posts: 515; Member since: 31 Dec 2011)


Yes it did mobile data/on and off hace been there for a while, is not am option available right away, you have to add it to the notification center.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 08:05 1

9. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


1. Irrespective of stock android all other OEMs have that option in-built in their custom skins and we all know aside from tech community hardly anyone uses stock android.

2. Also, you very well know how easy it is download an app.

3. Unlike WP android has the OPTION of getting it which WP doesn't provide you.

4. Even on stock android you can turn it off your data on two steps on WP you can't.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 08:31

11. Awalker (Posts: 1566; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)


In reference to stock Android's quick toggles, I like third party solutions better. I use an app called power toggles on my Nexus 5. It's pinned at the top of my notification shade and I can add far more toggles than what's offered in stock.

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 09:21 2

17. tech2 (Posts: 3475; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)


I use the same app on my Moto G too but fanboys lack logic. They pretty much know the answer themselves but they have to defend MS somehow....lol

posted on 17 Oct 2014, 10:17 1

24. Settings (Posts: 1718; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


Fanboys exist to defend their OS of choice coz trolls are dumb enough to bash other OS. I use WP and Android, I know their own strength and weakness. Compared to you, you never used a WP so you are bashing the platform coz of its shortcomings.

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