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The Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM is now a unicorn, even for early adopters

The Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM is now a unicorn, even for early adopters

As you may know from previous publications of ours, a beastly Galaxy S8+ model with 6GB of RAM and 128GB internal storage exists, but is exclusive to South Korea and, later on, the Chinese market. During the preorder period in Korea, it went out of stock for five days, despite the hefty price, equivalent to about $1020. The initial batch of 150,000 units apparently wasn't enough to meet demand for the souped-up version, and now additional reporting says that even that set is facing early supply bottlenecks.

As if to provide a tangible proof, those who track the Galaxy S8 and S8+ activations after the phones started to ship ahead of schedule on Tuesday, say that the numbers have dropped drastically from 210,900 on the first day, to just 63,400 yesterday, and much of the drop can be attributed to supply constraints of the 6GB/128GB version. The total preorder amount for the S8 and S8+ topped one million units, which is a record for a new launch in South Korea, and Samsung is evidently able to sell the handsets there as fast as it can make them.

As for the 6 GB Galaxy S8+, well, that second batch may remain a unicorn for at least another month, it seems, so whoever scored one during Tuesday's early shipping spree, may have a field day with it on eBay and some crafty international shipping offer.

source: ZDNet

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posted on 20 Apr 2017, 04:04 2

1. twens (Posts: 1029; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


Can anyone imagine a jail broken iOS running on this hardware? That will be my dream come true

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 04:20 9

2. sgodsell (Posts: 4518; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)


First of all iOS only runs on Apples AX SoCs. Second this has a very large and high resolution AMOLED display, Iris scanner, cat 16 LTE, Bluetooth 5.0, wifi ad, and 6 GB of RAM, and expandable storage. All of which Apples iOS doesn't even currently support yet.

Not to mention if you could run a jail broken iOS on it, then it would also void your warranty​. So clearly running Android is much better. No jail broken device is needed to run this current device. Also there is a ton of apps that are currently on the play store that you cannot get on any iPhone running iOS. Like all the emulators, the tons of utilities and tools that iPhones just don't support. So Android is the way to go if you are into jailbreaking​.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 07:10 1

5. AmashAziz (Posts: 969; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)


Apple doesn't license iOS to anyone so no one can officially run it on any phone of their choice.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 07:40 1

7. twens (Posts: 1029; Member since: 25 Feb 2012)


I'm more than aware of what you're saying. What I'm saying is it would be nice to have an apple device with this exact hardware with the current iOS running on it jail broken.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 07:54 2

8. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


Just wait for the OLED iPhone. The hardware Samsung is using isn't that special and exclusive. Heck, even OP5 will have 90% of those features.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:06 1

9. Trex95 (Posts: 1067; Member since: 03 Mar 2013)


Better wait for one plus 5 that comes with 8 gig of ram SD 835.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:11

10. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13488; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


What? Apple CPU is based on ARM designs. iOS can be made to run on it. All you have to do is change the bootloader and provide the needed drivers for the hardware.

Come on man, everyone in the world knows that an operating system can be written to run on nearly any chipset.

I agree, iOS running on Android hardware, would show the iPhone or any iOS device to be slow as it actually is.

FACT - The iPhone's hardware could not run Android 5.01 or above. After all, what phones with dualcores do you see running Android 5.01+? NONE (@ least none that I know of).

But iOS would fly on Android's hardware, especially with the direct hardware access advantage.

With 4 cores, iOS would be so very fast and with more RAM could hold even more apps in RAM and with UFS 2.1 would be zooming on the read and write speeds.

I mean of course via iTunes, transferring music is slow. In fact for me to move 65GB of just audio only with files varying form 2MB to 40MB, it takes iTunes nearly 4 hours to move it all while on my Galaxy via Windows Explorer, it takes less than an hour.

USB Type C is also faster vs Apple's own Lightning port and all the other nice benefits we get with Android/Samsung especially.

I mean Windows x86 runs directly on ARM. How do you think that is possible? Bill Gates designed Windows to run on anything. It just requires a properly written bootloader and drivers so the OS can use the hardware.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:11

11. torr310 (Posts: 1037; Member since: 27 Oct 2011)


I agree. Just wait for another month or two, it will be worth that wait.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:27 2

13. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


"FACT - The iPhone's hardware could not run Android 5.01 or above. After all, what phones with dualcores do you see running Android 5.01+? NONE (@ least none that I know of)."

That's a BS conclusion. Correlation doesn't imply causality.

Fact 1: iPhone has a quad core processor.
Fact 2: Even a single core processor can run android or any linux based OS.

"But iOS would fly on Android's hardware, especially with the direct hardware access advantage."

It doesn't work like that. iOS is optimized for Apple's hardware and their ISA, not generic ARM designs. So that won't happen.

Apple's storage solution is already much faster than android phones muster in sequential reads and writes.

"In fact for me to move 65GB of just audio only with files varying form 2MB to 40MB, it takes iTunes nearly 4 hours to move it all while on my Galaxy via Windows Explorer, it takes less than an hour."

That time should reduce to less than 10 min with new phones like the S8 with USB 3.1 support. 6GB/min should be the standard.

You are right about the hardware and OS though, it's just that everything else is wrong.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:44

15. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13488; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


FACT - I didn't realize the iPhone 7 had moved to quadcore. Because originally I had been shopping for an iPhone 6 and they are dualcore.

So thanks for the correction!

So I will correctly say, "older: iPhone models could not run Android 5.01 or above. I am not saying just being able to load the OS. I am saying being able to handle all its features and run the software as fast as Android hardware does.

Let me be even more specific. The Android I am ferreing to is Samsung's Android, with TouchWiz and all its features.

Basic Android? I know can run on anything. But I wasnt referring to that.

So that that I cleared that up, does that clear it up for you?

This optimized BS is just BS. An OS can be "optimized" to run on any ARM chipset.

Sure Apple added some tricks, but you act as if no one else can!.

Apple's CPU uses ARM designs for reference...PERIOD. They simply moved things around. ARM is ARM.

Whether its Samsung ARM, APple's ARM, Qualcomm ARM, they all use ARM designs...PERIOD. No matter how much they customize the design

ARM's chips are not the "generic" version as you tryign to make it out to be. It's simply their vs vs what others did on a custom level.

The other OEM's using ARM for reference means, the foundation of their chips are based on ARM design and is why they work. Without it, well, they would have to make their own from scratch. Apple isnt making the A series from scratch. They are taking an original design, and customizing it.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 10:00

17. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


Even if you are going to compare touchwiz, the A10 is pretty much as fast as Exynos 8890 in performance(multicore). So no it's not going to cause any issues.

I'm not talking about OS optimizations, I am talking about iOS apps like adobe lightroom or games like vainglory, which are specifically optimized for A series processors.

Apple doesn't use ARM chips. The scheduler, the instruction pipeline, or even the superscalar capabilities are changed. Yes, they license cores, but they are very different.

This is like AMD CPUs and Intel. Both run on x86, but applications optimized for intel will behave terribly for AMD and vice versa.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 10:44 1

18. htcisthebest (Posts: 293; Member since: 15 Nov 2011)


Why would you want to run an inferior and outdated iOS on an advanced Android phone that is years ahead in technology?

posted on 21 Apr 2017, 02:20

20. mammary.moon (Posts: 29; Member since: 30 Jun 2016)


I want a stock android experience running on that beautiful hardware

posted on 22 Apr 2017, 01:26

21. dazed1 (Posts: 515; Member since: 28 Jul 2015)


Yeah, no.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 04:26 7

3. HugoBarraCyanogenmod (Posts: 1324; Member since: 06 Jul 2014)


Samsung sell extra RAM exclusively in China and Korea is because of stiff competition from Chinese OEMs.

As people in United States reject Chinese phone despite beast spec, there's no reason for Samsung to offer better spec as well.

Competition benefits consumers, things American did not value

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:14

12. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13488; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


There is a benefit period.

On my S8 it has 4GB of RAM. Nearly 750MB is system reserved, 2.3GB is tied to system and apps, and now with my apps all installed, only 923MB is available for me to run applications with.

If it had 6GB of RAM, I'd have more available to my own apps when I open them.

Before I installed my apps, 1.9GB of the RAM was available for my usage. Now I have less than a GB, even after cleaning it out.

Also considering the price increase, 1GB or 2GB of extra RAM would have been nice.

The US could care less about Chinese OEM's The device needs mor eRAM because applications are RAM hungry

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:35

14. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13488; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


https://flic.kr/p/TsreZE

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 08:50 1

16. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 13488; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


More RAM is beneficial, no matter how you try to downplay it.

More RAM means you can load more apps into the VM's memory and yoru apps will run faster.

Again remember this, iOS has direct hardware access, so the OS and apps are limited to available hardware RAM, this is not true of Android because Android is a Virtual Machine.

Which means the apps and OS dont have direct hardware access, and thus in theory doesn't have the hardware ceiling.

Example, lets say you had an Android app that needed 8GB of RAM, but your device only has 4GB. On Android the VM would still be able to run this app, but it would simply be slow. On iOS this app simply won't even open because it would crash due to not having RAM. On a VM the virtual machine hides the hardware from the app, and the app will simply open and run...though quite slowly.

The Galaxy especially could use more RAM do to all of Android services and background apps, the fact that Google has so many services and background apps and then Samsung adds their own which duplicates everything else.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 04:30

4. Jacksie66 (Posts: 18; Member since: 03 Feb 2017)


Someone is selling this model on a buy and sell website here in Ireland for €1400. Pretty steep considering there's no warranty unless you send it back to china or South Korea..

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 07:39

6. xondk (Posts: 1904; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)


Seems entirely to be around expected price point, they aren't expecting a phone at this price to sell well in the west, I'd say they are horrifically wrong.

posted on 20 Apr 2017, 11:15

19. p51d007 (Posts: 320; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)


People are so foolish with their money. $1,020 FOR A PHONE?

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