Side-agnostic USB Type C connector coming soon to Android phones and tablets, hints Google
2. brrunopt (Posts: 742; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
Its not really news .. since the anouncment of Type-C that is known it would come to phones and tablets..
5. vincelongman (Posts: 3975; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Yea, this was inevitable for Android and Windows devices
The more interesting question is are Apple also going to switch USB 3.1 Type-C for their iOS devices?
8. KyleRiemen (Posts: 110; Member since: 29 Oct 2014)
No they won't. Apple makes a lot of money with licensing their connectors for peripherals. This is the main reason they went with the lightning connector instead of microUSB $$$.
9. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
If that's true why does the new MacBook already has it... but I do like the lightning cable though...
15. joey_sfb (Posts: 5236; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Well, look like Apple speaker and dock manufacturers must quickly dump their existing lighting connector accessory before its actually become official.
Isn't it wonderful to be able to buy new speaker dock every other year. Such joy!
26. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
Because it would be suicide to sell a computer without USB-ports for any peripherals. As you may notice it is not used for charging.
10. Leo_MC (Posts: 944; Member since: 02 Dec 2011)
They went with lightning because it is better in any way than USB standard.
Apple already uses type c in it's new line of laptops so it's safe to presume that also iPhones/iPads will get it.
22. sprockkets (Posts: 1611; Member since: 16 Jan 2012)
Lighning on one side, usb whatever on the other. Nothing will change.
27. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
Who are the idiots that upvoted you? Lightning is in no f**king way better than USB, just different to be proprietary.
30. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Have you ever had some lint or some dirt stuck in the miniUSB? or the regular USB bent that it doesn't wanna fit anymore?
After using Lighting for a year and a half, you realize how cumbersome using USB is with it's right side up... Mini USB is even worse because in the dark you fettle with one way, than turn it over just to realize you had it right the first time. And then there's the instant gratification feeling when that lightning snaps in unlike mini USB where you're not really sure if it's all the way in because it feels wobbly... All my daughter's toys have Mini USB's - I know the difference between lighting and USB/miniUSB, and post #10 is absolutely right about it being better... but I doubt it will see iPhone/iPad application due to wattage and amperage rate, but who knows.
Proprietary? yes. Inconvenient? absolutely NOT! My iPad 3 is on the 30pin and our phones are on lightning. My speaker docks are all lighting and one is 30pin from 5 years ago (I dont know why we still keep it) - but we rarely use them to charge the phones - Bluetooth is KING!!!
3. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Already here, announced on the new MacBook...
7. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
... or that ^
Hey, is it for sale already, I want to see how the connector compares to the lightning cable. There's this solid feeling when lightning clicks in, plus no dirt or lint can be trapped, nor can you accidentally bend the outer metal like you can on regular USB or mini USB.. (some of the things I like about the lightning).. At least the USB-c is reversable, but the benefit of that one is more power delivered: 5amps I think... the iPad charger only goes up to 2amp and iPhone 1amp...
I was hoping that Apple opened the licence to lightning instead of the world pushing for type-c but this is a great new design... hopefully we fully move to that connector quickly specifically mobile devices...
Unfortunatly many will be left using old cables or adapters as the world is floded with USB and mini USB... we'll see.
18. buccob (Posts: 2490; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
The process for manufacturing the Type C USB male tip is with extrusion, a cold process for steel, which also makes it harder and stronger... so yes, it will survive probably better than the Lightning tip.
Hopefully Apple moves fully to Type C as well and the world will be a happier, more standard place...
20. vincelongman (Posts: 3975; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)
Yea, the iPad charger is 10W (5V*2A) and the iPhone charger is 5W (5V*1A)
USB 3.1 can be up to 100W
But phone/tablets won't use 100W because it would cause too much heat
I believe currently the max phone/tablets can handle 21W/36W (if they have Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0)
25. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
Thanks Vince, very informative. I guess I can rest easy that my lightning isn't going away anytime soon.
28. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
If you are lying restless worrying about the future of lightning I don't know what to tell yo besides seek psychiatric help. You should pray for Apple adopting a standard like USB 3.1 Type C.
32. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
I really like the solidness of lightning connector... sorry to ruin your day, buddy. "rest easy" was a figure of speech - dont take things literally (or are you just bashing an Apple user for being an Apple user - than you should "seek psychiatric help"...
Seriously, why do people bash on others for enjoying something they dont? I dont care if you hate everything Apple, but why attack me?
12. XperiaFanZone (Posts: 2010; Member since: 21 Sep 2012)
I like how Apple made it look like they've invented it.
16. gustavoace (Posts: 173; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)
they did the same with intel's thunderbolt
6. ArtSim98 (Posts: 3535; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
I wonder if the Z4 will already use this.
19. buccob (Posts: 2490; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
I really hope so, because I already see the lack of Magnetic Port as a big disappointment.... even if they implement Qi charging...
I currently use the Magnetic port with adapters for charging AND while using the phone on my hand (with Qi this would not be possible), and my car stereo has the Magnetic Port (XSP-N1BT) and support 1.5AMP of power, and the port forces the phone to rotate its screen even on Home Screen, which is great for in-car use.
Type C would really means a step forward... But either way I don't think I will ditch my Z3C at least in the next 2 years
11. TheGunnyPT (Posts: 252; Member since: 12 Feb 2015)
Hopefully by the time the Note 5, comes out this is gonna become a industry standard for 2015.
Really interested to see how fast OEMS will adopt it
34. AlikMalix (Posts: 4828; Member since: 16 Jul 2014)
The picture of the article above is the new MacBook with USB-c. I hear Nokia N1 Tablet already shipping with it. So, I think adoption will be fast..
14. Chuck007 (Posts: 1001; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)
10 bucks say the new Nexus phone is going to be the first phone with it.
17. McLTE (Posts: 804; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Nice move.. however, the Lightning connector is far superior from a durability and design standpoint. Nothing beats having a solid, thick, reversible connector.
Having that tiny, thin PCB that must be inserted into the USB connector is definitely a weak point - wish they would do a lightning type connector.
21. buccob (Posts: 2490; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
You should see how the manufacturing process for USB Type C plug really is...
In fact the oval shape + the cold extrusion process makes it a stronger than the Lightning connector...
The flat design of the Lightning connector is actually more prone to bending than Type C
23. xondk (Posts: 1132; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Looking at Lightning next to a USB 3.1 c connector, I am wondering what makes you think they are that different? it in terms of thickness and such they are almost practically identical? So what do you base this on?
29. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
Well, this crushes lightning in every other aspect possible and others that lightning isn't even close to doing, so I guess we'll survive.
24. NopeNein (Posts: 147; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)
I heard that The Type-C Is Backward Compatible, Anybody can explain how? is it black magic stuff?
31. JumpinJackROMFlash (Posts: 423; Member since: 10 Dec 2014)
There are magical, cursed items out in the world called adapters...
36. NopeNein (Posts: 147; Member since: 04 Feb 2015)
May God Smite Them Into the depths of Hell. then again... Even Satan might not even want it.
33. camhiliciouz (Posts: 16; Member since: 11 Dec 2014)
actually its really bound to happen. however in the case of macbook, why just one? they should have placed 2 at least 1 dedicated for power source.