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Pantech’s second generation Vega Note may be first to use Qualcomm’s 64-bit Snapdragon 810

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Pantech’s second generation Vega Note may be first to use Qualcomm’s 64-bit Snapdragon 810
Media in Korea is reporting that Pantech is working on a successor to the Vega Note phablet, and that it will be among the first devices to pack Qualcomm’s recently announced 64-bit CPU, the Snapdragon 810.

As we reported last month, the Snapdragon 810 is a beast, utilizing the big.LITTLE design and incorporating an Adreno 430 GPU. This chipset will handle 4K video at 30 frame-per-second, and LTE-Advanced up to 300Mbps.

Qualcomm announced that this silicon will be available to manufacturers later this year, with the expectation that we will see devices equipped with the new processors sometime in the first half of 2015. What is notable about the reports coming out of Asia is that this new Pantech will be released in the second half of this year.

The new Vega Note is said to have a 6-inch 1440x2560 display to show off all the graphic prowess of the new chipset. There may also be some features to help keep the motor cool while being put to work. Pantech’s flagships typically do not see wide distribution outside of Asia, so while it may make headlines if it is the first to debut a new Vega Note with a new Snapdragon 810, we are not holding our breath that it will make its way stateside.

sources: BodNara (translated) via G4Games and IntoMobile

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posted on 10 May 2014, 21:12 3

1. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)


So Qualcomm 810 chips will be available to manufacturers this year, but supposedly not available in production volume until next year. And 805 chips are starting to ship in a few months? It seems that the 801 chip really could have been skipped.

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:17

2. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


So there is not a single Oems using straight A15 quad core socs without A7

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:29 3

4. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


Because A15 is so power consuming that your battery would die with an hour of use without the A7 cores.

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:36 1

7. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


I know but just imagine how powerful it would be

posted on 11 May 2014, 10:12

52. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


It would be just as powerful as current A15 SoCs with big.Little. Just because there are A7 cores doesn't mean the A15 cores can't use their full potential. If anything, the SoCs using big.Little and heterogeneous multi-processing are more powerful than just straight A15 SoCs, because not only can all the A15 cores be on, but the A7 cores can be used with them.

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:18

14. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


the 801 is a straight A15 quadcore.

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:54 1

23. renz4 (Posts: 318; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)


did you mean snapdragon 801? there is no A15 there. it was custom Krait. the only SoC i know did not using A15 with A7 was T4 and upcoming TK1 (32 bit). the companion 'ninja' core is still based on the same A15. and unlike big.LITTLE nvidia small core are not visible to the OS.

posted on 10 May 2014, 23:19 1

32. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


My bad, your right!

posted on 11 May 2014, 07:04

49. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Impossible at 2.5Ghz it would rinse battery like berzerk said even more faster

It's to powerful to run even at 1.3Ghz alone itself

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:26 3

3. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


A Snapdragon 805 device should come out within a month. They're already available to OEMs for testing, and Qualcomm said they should be out by the second half of the year. It really does seem like HTC and Samsung could have delayed their flagships a couple months to use the 805, and we would have seen something new rather than a higher clocked version of the same chip that's been used for almost a year.

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:34 2

6. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


The only major OEM that release in the second half is LG. The 801 and 805 have different GPU. If both HTC and Samsung would have to delay for much more then a couple of month. The software itself would have to be rewritten for the new GPU. It is not as easy was just putting in s different chip and go.

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:20 2

15. vincelongman (Posts: 4575; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Google might release another Nexus after the G3, except the Nexus series rumored to be ending :(

And Sony will also release a Z (maybe another Z Ultra?) in the second half, they have a 6 month release cycle
And the Note 4 will be released in the second half and maybe HTC's phablet

posted on 11 May 2014, 10:24

53. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)


If HTC and Samsung had intended on using the 805 in their flagships as soon as they heard from Qualcomm about it, they would have had enough time to write software to support it. Qualcomm announced the 805 and said that OEMs were already testing it, so that means they would have had at least 6 months with it by now.

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:30 3

5. Topcat488 (Posts: 1396; Member since: 29 Sep 2012)


Hahaha man-o-man, SoC for Android smartphones are on a "F---ing" roll baby. 801 chips along with the 805's are yesterdays telegraphic technology... Don't even blink your eyes or you'll be behind these days. O.o a green thumb from me 0xFFFF

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:41

8. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Yeah, Qualcomm's 2015 processors should finally catch up to the A7 Cyclone. Of course, the A9 will be bearing down on them by that point.

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:49 1

11. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


So what is a A7 Cyclone Dual core 1.3Ghz it's not a A15 cause running A15 at 1.3Ghz without A7 that means A7 is a weak Cpu comparing it to A15 which can't be active due to power and performance

So a 1500mah battery keeps this A7 cyclone going
It's still not rinsing the battery

So how the he'll could this A7 be powerful than the A15 lmfao

Forget about 6 pipelines who gives a jack when it comes to raw pure muscle power the A15 kills the weak rubbish A7

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:21 1

16. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Umm, you couldn't possibly be more wrong. You're talking about A15 like it's something, and I'm talking about real power that has more in common with the A57. The A7 has headroom to spare in comparison to today's Qualcomm junk, but Apple has chosen to keep it under clocked to keep it from destroying the battery because it doesn't NEED to go like a scalded dog to be powerful.

posted on 10 May 2014, 23:31 5

37. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Ohh that A7 64bit "advanced" chipset on ipad air which still lags on ios 7. How great is apple. Snapdragon FTW.

posted on 11 May 2014, 07:07

50. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


So that's either under voltage instead using high TDP it's using very low TDP also A15 requires a mini fan to coolant it down

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:22 1

17. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


the "A7" that napalm was talking about was apple's A7, not ARM's A7.

for all intents and purposes, the A7 is on even footing with the snapdragon 800 (both score evenly on benchmarks. around 2500 for geekbench, whereas the 801 scores around 3000)

ALSO- Clockspeed is not a determinant of performance between chips. some chips can accomplish more with less clock cycles.

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:24 5

18. vincelongman (Posts: 4575; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


What do you mean catch up?
The 800 has always been faster in CPU benchmarks and app opening test
The 801 is now also faster GPU benchmarks

The only benchmarks the A7 tops are browser benchmarks because Safari has a better JavaScript engine than Chrome

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:33 3

21. grahaman27 (Posts: 361; Member since: 05 Apr 2013)


"The only benchmarks the A7 tops are browser benchmarks because Safari has a better JavaScript engine than Chrome"

that correct, and a pain in the arse. Chrome needs to get it together.

posted on 10 May 2014, 23:50 3

39. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


" Apple didn't build a Krait/Silvermont competitor, it built something much closer to Intel's big cores. At the launch of the iPhone 5s, Apple referred to the A7 as being "desktop class" - it turns out that wasn't an exaggeration."
"Looking at Cyclone makes one thing very clear: the rest of the players in the ultra mobile CPU space didn't aim high enough. I wonder what happens next round."

These are Anand Lal Shimpi's exact words. Cyclone is far more capable than anything else on the market, which is why I said "catch up."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7910/apples-cyclone-microarchitecture-detailed

posted on 11 May 2014, 03:18

44. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1533; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)


Do you have any link about that? Because in every page I read the Cyclone was faster, both on opening apps and brosing.
Also the GPU benchmarks are over Adreno 330 in some cases:
EG: Manhattan offscreen test in GFXbench.
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp
The only tests where Snapdragos 800/801 are better are in perfect multithreded benchmarks, which are not precisely the best representation of real workloads.

posted on 11 May 2014, 05:41 1

45. vincelongman (Posts: 4575; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


The A7 CPU is faster in single core, e.g. Geekbench single core
And faster browser, e.g. Sunspider, Kraken, Octane

The 800/801 CPU is faster in multi core, e.g. Geekbench multi core and 3DMark Physics

Both are both equally important
Single core is important for basically everything
Multi core is important for multi tasking and heavy loads, e.g. gaming

For GPU the A7 is faster in GFXBench Manhattan/T-Rex
For GPU the 800/801 is faster in 3DMark, BaseMark X, GFXBench ALU/Alpha blending/Fill rate

For GPU I think its like how some games run better on AMD GPU and some run better on Nvidia GPUs

Links
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX3mCvJeVN8
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/7

posted on 11 May 2014, 07:12

51. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


But ios is much lighter than Android

The Android platform runs on Linux and ios runs on Unix Darwin platform which is half lighter than Android and need half less resources of Cpu Gpu

posted on 10 May 2014, 22:53 2

22. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)


Say what?! People these days talk like a big mouth without knowledge.

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:42

9. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


Everyone talking about S801 S805, but no one talks about A15 or Tegra4 nor does anyone talk about PowerVrSgxRouge Gpu which are much better than A430

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:44 1

10. vipervoid123 (Posts: 163; Member since: 27 Aug 2013)


I dont think it will better than A430 much ~
As efficiency of both GPU is really really bad compare to A430 ~
So no point to talk about it ~

posted on 10 May 2014, 21:53

12. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)


A430 produces around 170 gigaflops and PvrRouge at 270gigaflop

Forget about efficiency if you deploy a 4000mah that would be more than enough to push high end PvrRouge

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