Note 4 with octa-core Exynos 5433 crosses the 40 000 mark on AnTuTu, beats Snapdragon 805
23. sriuslywtf (Posts: 297; Member since: 09 Jul 2013)
But allwin octa scores 48K on antutu:
66. j2001m (Posts: 2396; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Its the screen res that's keepping it down and the phone size
40. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
If the Note 4 comes with OIS and upgrades of the rest of the specs from the GS5, then one will be mine as soon as it is available on VZW. Only unknown at this point is what kind of heat signature it will have.
2. hung2900 (Posts: 918; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
To be honest, I prefer the configuration of 2 + 4 hexa core Exynos 5260 with HMP implementation (true 6 cores) than the BS 4 + 4 octa core configuration with stupid cluster immigration.
Exynos 5260 showed a very high Antutu benchmark at 33k points, so for Cortex A5X it should be over 40k easily. From the score of Exynos 5433, it is possible that still stupid cluster immigration like S4 and Note 3
41. rehanmustafa90 (Posts: 11; Member since: 13 May 2014)
Tegra K1 appears faster than the Exynos due to the K1 device being tested with a 1920x1080 display whereas the Exynos 5433 was tested on a device running a 2560x1440 resolution display.
62. Suo.Eno (Posts: 456; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)
No you'll need that extra gig of RAM for future fw/sw upds = TouchWiz should Samsung are still bent on sticking w/ their less than optimized ways...
11. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The 4+4 cluster design is a weak point of the current ARM architecture for low power environments. I hope for their sake they come up with something that isn't so lame in the near future.
21. galanoth (Posts: 423; Member since: 26 Nov 2011)
Samsung stopped using cluster migration with the Exynos 5422
business/semiconductor/minisit e/Exynos/products5octa_5422.ht ml
"The new Exynos 5 Octa (5422) implements an HMP solution to allow for any combination of the eight cores to provide optimum performance under any given workload with improved energy efficiency and lower power consumption"
47. rd_nest (Posts: 1465; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
Read before you comment.
Number of cores have nothing to do with Cluster migration or GTS. Exynos 5422 already have HMP enabled. It not about number of cores, you can have GTS in any combination of cores. Nobody ever said you need 6 cores to have GTS.
And stop using that 'true' hexa octa BS. Whoever thinks that HMP is used to use all cores at same time are ignorant of processor architecture. Go read some Linaro documents before you comment.
52. hung2900 (Posts: 918; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
I said Exynos 5260 is a "true" hexa-core is something like people say Snapdragon S800 is a "true" quad-core. Heck, both of them can run on 1 core only with power-gating or CPU hot-plugging. So nothing wrong with it.
5422 is HMP enable, but it does not mean everything following it is HMP enable as well.
55. rd_nest (Posts: 1465; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
There is nothing like 'true' Hexa or Octa. It's only ignorant journalists who post such BS. Nobody ever read a single sentence of processor tech and will spread some useless keywords out of their a**.
What makes you assume that 5433 will *NOT* be HMP enabled? You think a upgraded SOC will be inferior! Good logic.
BTW, you are totally wrong when you mention Octa means Cluster migration. You need to study a lot before commenting like that. You come out as any other typical poster here who have just heard the term HMP and throw around terms like Cluster Migration without even bothering to check how actually GTS helps with DVFS.
What people say in none of my concern, most of them don't know half the stuff they are talking about.
79. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
Maybe you can clarify something for me. I was under the impression that the 4 lower power cores on these ARM BIG.little designs trade off processing with the higher power cores. What level does this happen at? Does the OS need to move a thread (or process?) over to the low power core (or back to high power) or does the chip do this itself?
Thanks for the info in advance! :)
69. gigantos (Posts: 63; Member since: 25 Jul 2013)
You mean Note 3 Neo? 5260 runs on 720p, so it has less pixels to worry about. Put it with a 1080p screen then it will fall miserably.
3. NotAGeek (Posts: 279; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
Wow,imagine how high the score will be if the score uses 1080p screen
5. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 3689; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
And yet the snapdragon will stand tall after all exynos buzz. -_-
10. tech2 (Posts: 3159; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Ever since they announced S3 exynos wont get Kitkat update. I sort of gave up on exynos. Even samsung isn't showing love to their own chipset.
Here's to hoping the next gen Exynos will have LTE :/
24. hung2900 (Posts: 918; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
It is due to the RAM. Note 2 with the same SoC received Kitkat already
30. tech2 (Posts: 3159; Member since: 26 Oct 2012)
Kitkat is designed to run 512 RAM. My Moto G with 1GM RAM is also rockin' Kitkat for several months now.
33. iushnt (Posts: 1301; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)
Yes but hung2900 is right. It was not due to the processor but the Ram. Note 2 received it. Samsung themselves told that the update is was ready but they couldn't:t give as it didn't work well with 1 GB ram. The fuzz of KitKat optimized for 512 MB is just rubbish. If that's case then I have seen gingerbread, ICS, jellybean all running on 256MB ram as well.
58. sipha (Posts: 432; Member since: 12 May 2012)
The problem is the heavy touchWiz!! Not kitkat..
61. Suo.Eno (Posts: 456; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)
Broad statement that's actually inaccurate. When Samsung said "it didn't work well" w/ 1Gb RAM, that "it" being TouchWiz not the underlying AOSP base itself. Loads of older phone models w/ 512Mb RAM are running 4.4 right now on regularly updated ROM ports, I would think those devs aren't a bunch of dim witted masochists to be able to volunteer their work for free pain.
" If that's case then I have seen gingerbread, ICS, jellybean all running on 256MB ram as well." ~ I'd like to see that as well except that Kitkat alone has the official Sundar Pichai lower RAM assurance from the get go, the former revisions never did that's the key thing.
44. mm007 (Posts: 3; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)
68. j2001m (Posts: 2396; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Its got all Samsung ROM to run, it does not fit
26. DerryAhmad (Posts: 262; Member since: 05 May 2012)
My (former) Exynos S4 lagged after awhile, and the camera takes time to load. Plus the battery was bad.
I passed on buying the S5 due to having an Exynos processor (my country always get the lower quality processor variant). I bought an Android Flagship from other OEM instead :)
59. sipha (Posts: 432; Member since: 12 May 2012)
How do you feel about Ordering from Amazon..
7. Shatter (Posts: 2036; Member since: 29 May 2013)
8 cores and it only gets 40000... It won't beat the dual core Tegra K1 which is a disappointment.
9. joey_sfb (Posts: 4973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
I also hope for Tegra K1 in note 4. But that unlikely. I also wish openES 3.0 is the new gaming standard for Android devices.
OpenES 2.0 is a bit long in the teeth.
49. james.blunt.1973 (Posts: 38; Member since: 15 Dec 2013)
I hope for Intel Core I7 in Note 4...
12. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
The Exynos will ship and be in a real device. The dual core K1 might end up being a good chip... but will it show up in a real device vs. some development board?
32. mistertimi (Posts: 77; Member since: 28 May 2014)
K1 is primarily for tablets, but it will be in a phone by the end of the year, saw an article on it this week
27. hung2900 (Posts: 918; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
I know there would be somebody says this sh!t.
Actually, NVIDIA always do some "optimizations" on their referent units, which always show a much higher benchmark score than the reality. The same thing happened with Tegra 2, 3 and 4 (you can search to see, like in Tegra 4's reference device, Antutu 36k, Quadrant 16k, while the real Antutu is about 30k, Quadrant 12k)
74. georaldc (Posts: 5; Member since: 13 Oct 2013)
My Shield does 37-38k in antutu IIRC. Must be a magical tegra 4 device
42. sar44 (Posts: 278; Member since: 14 Apr 2014)
using only 4 cores, others are used for energy saving
exynos 4 cores 1.3ghz
snap 4 cores 2.5 ghz
60. UglyFrank (Posts: 1405; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
Dual core K1 was clocked at 3.0GHz when it was benchmarked, wasn't it?
8. ColinW (Posts: 70; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)
The Note series have been one of the most innovative and best ranges (and in my opinion underrated) of phones in the last few years. I am really looking forward to seeing what the 4 will look like.
13. aayupanday (Posts: 572; Member since: 28 Jun 2012)
The last line reads -"as the LG G3 tests showed that the high-density panel dooms it to just average endurance."
Didn't your Droll Endurance Test put the G3 right on the top of the charts?.
73. Twisted247 (Posts: 282; Member since: 12 Oct 2012)
Your the only other person that caught this...
This is the problem with having so many different writers that DON'T DO THEIR HOMEWORK.. to the point they don't even know what articles their own company put out on the latest device...
Come on PA
14. Iodine (Posts: 1201; Member since: 19 Jun 2014)
64-bit 4x cortex A57 + 4xCortex A53 at 28 nm ? According to my amaterous technical knowledge it just impossible. Octa core or 64 not both on 28nm.
72. Ishmeet (Posts: 111; Member since: 16 Sep 2013)
64-bit is the overall instruction set, which the OS receives from the SoC and responds accordingly.
28-nM describes the process carried out at a certain dimension of the wafer-node(in this case 28-nM, and I don't remember which dimension it refers to btw).
15. chocowii (Posts: 414; Member since: 30 Jan 2014)
Nice specs the new Note has. Wonder why TouchWiz still lags.
19. joey_sfb (Posts: 4973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Only lag for ppl struck in time loop 2008!
71. j2001m (Posts: 2396; Member since: 28 Apr 2014)
Easy the animations that Samsung use are crap at x1 speed change that to x0.5 on delp setting and lag is removed
16. 0xFFFF (Posts: 3806; Member since: 16 Apr 2014)
When I got my Note 3, I thought that it was the phone that Samsung was truly proud of making. It was a clear step above the Galaxy S4. I hope that the Note 4 is this similar step above the Galaxy S5.
That said, if I cannot root a Note 4 on ATT, then I'm not going to be upgrading. Towelroot might work, and if so, great. If not, I will switch to some other phone that is not fukked-by-design.
17. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1495; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I was expecting the CPU part of the test as the A57 cores are much more powerful than the A15 ones (around 40% at the same clock), but that the Mali-760 scores better than Adreno 420 is a pleasent surprise.
Specially taking into account how low the Mali-T628 MP6 in the Exynos 5422 was compared to Adreno 330:
p?benchmark=gfx30&D1=Samsung+G alaxy+S5+%28SM-G900%2C+SM-G900x%2C+SC-04F%2C+SCL23%29&os1=Android&ap i1=gl&D2=Samsung+SM-G900x+Galaxy+S5+%28Mali-T628%29&cols=2
28. hung2900 (Posts: 918; Member since: 02 Mar 2012)
They are quite equivalent on T-rex benchmark. Manhattan benchmark is simply pointless when it is not correspondent to the current apps.
46. TylerGrunter (Posts: 1495; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
I see it some other way: Manhattan shows you how ready for the future the GPU is.
56. rd_nest (Posts: 1465; Member since: 06 Jun 2010)
This is not A57, it's A15 + A7.
Such details are backfilled in AnTuTu and if it says A57 now, it's updated wrongly.
18. MrPhilo (Posts: 48; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
Pre-production score, plus Antutu is a bad benchmark to represent overall system. Why? 4 x A15 from K1 scores better than 4 x A57?
Geekbench 3 is best for CPU
GFXBench is best for GPU
43. MrPhilo (Posts: 48; Member since: 25 Feb 2013)
The the A53 not A57, Antutu always reports the smaller cores Ghz
20. amasog (Posts: 323; Member since: 22 Aug 2013)
so what if its the fastest phone in the universe?
will it change your life? would other people respect you when you own this?
22. joey_sfb (Posts: 4973; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
This a mobile phone forum where ppl talk about all things mobile.
Life philosophy is in another forum. Just search in Google.