Microsoft Surface will be Wi-Fi only at launch: prices to start from $599 for RT, $999 for Pro?
1. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)
I can almost hear Tim Cook laughing historically. Did Microsoft learn nothing from the release of the Motorola Xoom? You don't compete with the iPad by charging more, it doesn't what the specs are like. Nice looking tablet but at these prices, very few will be buying it.
4. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
for the Pro Version, I think it's reasonable - especially for those that can't decide between a tablet / laptop or an ultrabook --- it is still spec'd like an ultrabook.
for the RT i'm not sure... I'd rather keep my Transformer Prime.
i wish i knew the prices for the Asus Taichi and the Transformer Book, which has Core ix btw.
5. RoundBallmer (banned) (Posts: 43; Member since: 19 Jun 2012)
Now tell me what the xoom offers as compared to surface ? Its just yet another oversized android.
37. Whateverman (Posts: 3189; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Well, the Xoom is outclassed at this point by this and the iPad. But the reason I brought it up is because they originally tried to sell the Xoom at $800 bucks. At first glance at the specs, the Xoom was the better device, but the experience was nowhere near the iPad. Updates made it much better and lower the price to match the ipad but people were already turned off by then. They pretty much screwd the pooch, much like what Microsoft is doing right now.
10. scnix (Posts: 41; Member since: 01 Jul 2010)
I can't say about yourself, but I'm pretty damn sure I'll be buying the Pro version when it gets released. Who needs cellular when you have a smartphone with tethering?
34. CharlieAtInfinity (Posts: 253; Member since: 10 Apr 2012)
I definitely wont be buying with that $999 price tag to run x86 apps, better continue using my laptop!
54. CellularNinja (Posts: 301; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
But I think people are forgetting what each can do. The iPad (though great) is basically a big iPod Touch. I'm not saying that's a bad thing! It's great for consuming content, playing games, reading, web browsing, exc. But the Surface will be the full Windows 8 experience with the ability to run the full fledged Office Apps, which is huge! You should be able to do way more things in terms of productivity with the surface. I would easily pay the extra $100 for a tablet I can use for school and for play. Rather than just play.
61. DFranch (Posts: 139; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
and don't forget the Surface comes with Office built in. No additional charge for the software.
63. CellularNinja (Posts: 301; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
I doubt he's laughing about having serious competition. Competition that will probably do very well because it's way more productive.
2. valapsp (Posts: 473; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
Touch cover costs $50 at most. If this is true Microsoft will face another failure.
20. e.wvu (unregistered)
The covers for the iPad is $50 as well, so it wouldn't neccessarily be a fail.
24. tigermcm (Posts: 695; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
but the cover for the iPad wasnt a keyboard
56. Jeromeo (Posts: 135; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)
Wait 'till they've sold so few of these keypad boards that Microsoft offers it as a free bonus if you're desperate enough to buy one of these tablets before the price drops to either half or a third before it becomes a HP Touchpad...
BTW, my $99 HP Touchpad 32GB makes an amazing ICS Android tablet for the $.
3. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
Hmm... great tablet but this will suck in sales.
I am thinking that even if Android's functionality as a tablet OS is lacking, the Asus Google Nexus will destroy all the other tablet's sales.
Although, the main idea of the Surface is that the world is ready for tablets and hybrids. This has just marked the post laptop era IMO. In 5 years, laptops will be extinct and the hybrids will be the norm. Another prediction of mine is: Android Tablets will die in 5 years if they don't make the functionality better than a Windows RT, because believe it or not - the app store of Windows will surely adapt as fast as a blink of an eye.
16. TylerGrunter (Posts: 894; Member since: 16 Feb 2012)
This is actually a race:
Google and iOS use more performing OS but with stripped functionalities. Windows RT has more functionality, but higher prices.
Google will keep adding funcionality in the next years as far as hardware and prices allows. Windows will be getting cheaper as the hardware becomes more powerful.
But if you ask me Apple and Google are ahead in the game, as their strategy allows the tablets to be cheaper. Most of the people buy a tablet as the second or third computer, just a toy to surf the web, play vidios, games, etc. So price is key in the tablet market to gain volume.
The Pro version has an opportunity in the profesional market for people traveling a lot that need a full computer AND a tablet.
But for $600 the RT has very little chances to gain track. You can buy an Asus transformer 300 with keyboard for $500 or a higer resolution iPad. 500 would have been a good price, for 600 I don't see it getting a lot of market.
17. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
I agree with that. To put it shortly, Apple and Google has been competing in a non-matured market yet wherein the products they sell are not yet a necessity. On the other hand, Windows Pro has set up the era, it will mature. Though expensive, it is a necessity as a PC replacement... because it is a PC.
Tablets present nowadays are laptop wannabes --- android is the closest u'll get right now - with the file manager and open source nature of it.
62. DFranch (Posts: 139; Member since: 20 Apr 2012)
Don't forget it comes with Office. That's easily worth the extra $100.
6. doubler86 (Posts: 318; Member since: 26 Jan 2011)
Should have been $499 and $799. Priced competitively to tablets and competitively to ultrabooks.
8. tigermcm (Posts: 695; Member since: 02 Sep 2009)
thats the price i was hoping for but um those prices......i'm going to have to wait for a nokia tablet
52. Joshing4fun (Posts: 1047; Member since: 13 Aug 2010)
Agreed. Otherwise how could it challenge the iPad? At $200 higher than the iPad; heck even id start to consider the iPad to save that cash.
7. wendygarett (unregistered)
The New iPad FTW!!!!
15. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
can ur Ipad run Crysis 2 err no and never Surface probably CAN
35. Dr.Phil (Posts: 897; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
I wouldn't think the Surface RT would be able to run it (or if it did, it would be on the low graphic setting since this is Crysis 2) and the Surface Pro is $999, which is pretty much the same cost as building your own PC with most likely even better specs than what is on the Surface. So, I guess my question is, why would you want to buy a $1000 10 inch screen tablet to play a game that should be meant for a $1000 PC with the graphic and processor capability that could bring out the full potential (or as close to the full potential since we are just talking $1000) of the game?
38. Dr.Phil (Posts: 897; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
Also, I want to add that I have nothing against the Surface. I think it's great that Microsoft has decided to enter the competitive tablet world. I was just pointing out that I don't think anyone should buy this tablet just so they can say they "can possibly run Crysis 2." When it comes to buying a tablet, I think you should ask yourself what you are going to really be using the device for and compare the tablets that way.
45. saiki4116 (Posts: 343; Member since: 31 Mar 2011)
but how you play on it matters,i can run ubuntu on galaxy s2.....
9. CX3NT3_713 (Posts: 1697; Member since: 18 Apr 2011)
Well yea it is pricey...but that's the price you pay , for a real tablet/ PC / innovation ,, oh and a retina display? ((Yawn))...enjoy your higher quality photo viewing experience.. .. LOL
11. frydaexiii (Posts: 1215; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)
Damn, that's really expensive...Microsoft is seriously getting way too cocky, guess they'll have to fail badly in order to learn.
12. ananya22 (Posts: 93; Member since: 23 Apr 2012)
$999 is very good for a fully functional tablet pc. i am unsure about the $599 rt one
13. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
hahaha someone asks the stupid writter does IPAD runs AutoCad or AutoDesk or Visual Studio or any other stuff before saying it is a competitor
43. jove39 (Posts: 1265; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
iFans can't see beyond Apple...they have limited visibility.
14. haseebzahid (Posts: 1813; Member since: 22 Feb 2012)
and by the WAY IPADS are toys not more than that u will love it first after a while u will find it is of no use at all Surface is something u can use everywhere
42. jove39 (Posts: 1265; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Damn true...I sold my iPad2 only after few months of purchase...it reduces productivity...for me atleast!
19. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
This was a terrible mistake by Microsoft... They won't even come remotely close to challenging the iPad, let alone the Android tablet market. Another good product gone to waste by Microsoft. I hope they are more successful with Windows Phone 8 which looks to be the most promising.
21. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Too expensive. For $599 you can get the new iPad with some accessories or a quad-core droid with accessories too. for $999 you can get a red hot alienware!
30. Synack (Posts: 664; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)
Bulls**t, and Alienware's are the most overpriced thing ever on the market. You're basically paying a thousands of dollars for an alienface and some cool lighting effects. The same specs can be had in a laptop 1/3 the price.
49. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Well yeah Alienwares are overpriced, but so is a $999 surface tablet that's meant to compete against macbooks and similar spec'd laptops. And if you can find same specs at 1/3 of the price of an alienware then you're just making my point stronger because the surface is around the same price of an alienware and have lower specs. Yeah it has a touch screen, but the pro version is made to attract power users who will use full windows programs that do not/rarely use the touchscreen.
41. jove39 (Posts: 1265; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Comparing a gaming laptop to super portable tablet? What are you smoking?
50. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
Well it's been said that the $999 surface is meant to compete against netbooks and laptops. Well in the price range it's in it's bound to cross paths with the gaming laptops.
22. bdaniel17 (Posts: 5; Member since: 09 May 2011)
I think that pricing will be downfall of these tablets.
23. bubbadoes (Posts: 326; Member since: 03 May 2012)
DOA...dead on arrival...starting @ $599. That's $200 more than an ipad2 and $100 more than new ipad...just want compete out the gate at this price..
25. sarb009 (Posts: 286; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)
600 + 100 for cover = 700. seems too much for basic wifi only tablet. FAIL when u can get an android tablet or crypad with same or less price tag AND with 3g/4g option
26. valapsp (Posts: 473; Member since: 12 Aug 2011)
says $799 for the Pro. Has yet to be confirmed.
27. jibraihimi (Posts: 683; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Guys just chill down, these are not final prices, let the microsoft announce the final price then you all can bs about microsoft. But at present bashing the Microsoft just based on speculative price is not okay.............. Personally I think Windows Surface RT and windows surface pro will be priced lesser, Microsoft will not want the surfaces to go the way of dinosaurs at launch, so expect some aggressive pricing from them at the launch................. And plzzzzz don't compare the itoy(ipad) with 'surface pro', becoz all the itoys will need surface pro to manage music and video files on them, becoz iTunes can only be installed on Desktop grade OS, not on mobile OS............ :)
33. nofear (Posts: 149; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
jibraihimi, you are an absolutely correct! I have owned iPad2, iPhone 4s is that it was last no more than four month because both were limited for what I can do. iPhone 4s is just another getto for navigation feature, iconics-bored with three weeks of use, no shared mp3, photo or files- exclusive to iTune. I sold iPad 2 and iPhone 4s to get galaxy note 5.3" LTE and Asus transformer pad TF300 instead. iPad 3 just can not come close to Microsoft Surface Pro. iPad is a toy-is limiting feature and power. Microsoft surface Pro- it is Machine. Transformer pad TF300 serve for general purpose use of email, web, pay your bills, share files, music and many more is highly capability than iPad.
29. superguy (Posts: 271; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
I'll pass at that price. $999 for the Pro puts it in the ultrabook realm. With Windows 8 supposed to support touch screen anyway, it seems like this would really blur the line between an ultrabook and tablet.
I'd rather have a PC that had some tablet like functionality than a tablet with some PC like functionality. At least in an ultrabook, I'm going to get a better made machine by the looks of it.
I think MS had a potential winner, but this pricing will kill it. Even WinRT probably won't be worth it - higher priced than most tablets plus you'll have the expense of MS's apps which probably won't be terribly cheap either.
I'll wait for the 2nd generation at least now while MS learns from its mistakes.
31. ricky_nguyen (Posts: 4; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
No one will buy these stupid things because of one reasons the price
32. SmartPhoneStream (Posts: 160; Member since: 21 Jun 2012)
I'm disappointed PhoneArena did not release an article about the ASUS Taichi, if you are stuck between getting a laptop or a tablet with a detachable keyboard, the Taichi is both an ultrabook and a tablet. Instead of a normal lid there is another touchscreen.
36. theoak (Posts: 320; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)
If the Surface includes with full Office applications, SharePoint integration, remote clients, includes the keyboard, includes external monitor adapters ... that "might" justify the cost from a business perspective.
39. Rydsmith (Posts: 116; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
Maybe I'm missing something, but this price is perfectly fine. The iPad at 32GB is the same price.
Hell even compare this to the Tranformer Prime which costs the same for it (minus the keyboard).
And lastly if the extra $100 is "too much," maybe you shouldn't be buying a tablet in the first place as this is a luxury item.
48. ComputerUser (Posts: 1; Member since: 22 Jun 2012)
I want to know why you get a thumb down for your comment.
I agree with you on the pricing. I actually think the RT is a better deal than IPAD 32GB. It come standard with Office suite and hopefully the cover.
Why are people comparing the Pro to the IPAD? They are not even in the same class.
40. jove39 (Posts: 1265; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
I won't be surprised if WinRT turn out be slow seller...android tabs and iPad 2 are avialble at $399...or less...but Pro has ultrbook specs...so $999 is fine...with time...price may drop a little :)
44. KingKurogiii (Posts: 5561; Member since: 23 Oct 2011)
oh well, that killed it but they have time to change their minds before they release this failure.
46. fleanote (Posts: 50; Member since: 14 Jan 2011)
Nice! Another DOA product from MS. No one is going to pay these prices...wake up MS, if you want to compete, you have to get your price points down. I KNOW the Ipad will be relevant for years to come (and supported), MS' Surface tablets are unproven and like Playbook the masses are not going to fork that kind of cash over.
47. joex2 (Posts: 22; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
iPad + cover e stand + keyboard + office (iworks) = $747
51. Wyn66 (Posts: 7; Member since: 09 Aug 2011)
Thing is... this is all speculative. No one knows the exact prices until Microsoft gives out pricing info. Considering MS is the one who will be setting the prices, I think they can decide what's what up to the last minute prior to release.
So, if they say competitive and it includes the touch cover and/or type cover, and stand, and Office 2013 on the RT version, all things you have to purchase separately for the ipad, then it will be competitive. They've seen what happens to tablets that are priced higher and offer nothing more than the ipad offers.
53. ChiX017 (Posts: 308; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
This is a fuLL Computer priced at $599 against a mobile device (iPad) at $499...thats not bad at aLL!!
55. cepcamba (Posts: 717; Member since: 27 Feb 2012)
No. The $599 is the "lite" version which runs on ARM. The full version (the intel one) is supposedly priced at $999, which is a bit of overpriced don't you think?
57. 7thspaceman (Posts: 1057; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
wow for a lot of people 1000 dollars for the Microsoft pro which is the best of the lot is expensive but it will sell out because it is what an IPAD is not which is true Tablet that will run windows PC programs. The OEM partners Microsoft has will sell their Windows 8 x86 intel tablet computer cheaper than Microsoft because they ether make their own stuff from scratch or have better component supply partners or convert their mac air like Laptops into table computers.