Microsoft Lumia 950 and Lumia 950 XL prices leaked by Spanish retailer
1. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
I Really Wish The 950 Wasn't QHD. FHD Might Have Compelled Me To Give It A Try.
9. Rydsmith (Posts: 525; Member since: 20 Jun 2012)
How are you from the US but can't comprehend when to capitalize and when not to?
14. Cheezwiz (Posts: 430; Member since: 29 Dec 2014)
Maybe he was sharing the title of his new persuasive essay?
25. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
I Just Like The Way All Caps Looks, That's All The Rude Grammar Police Aren't Needed.
30. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
HAHA I Hope You Love Fixing The Errors In This ^ Sentence.
32. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Actually it won't make any difference amoled don't draw more when at qHD and also your games won't run at QHD so no Fbs drop.
37. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
Correction, QHD Amoled Draws Less Power Than QHD Lcd But Still More Power Than 1080p Amoled. Also QHD Does Affect FPS Because Even Tho The Games Don't Support QHD The GPU Still Has To Power The Whole 3,686,400 Pixels Of The QHD Display VS FHD Which Only Has 2,073,600 Pixels. Less Pixels Means Less Strain On The GPU, Which Also Mean Better FPS.
45. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
Yeah i meant from the LCD QHD.
And also the games fbs won't change since the soc it self can render at different resolutions just like desktop GPUs that's why off screen tests are there.
And also the display of self can show all resolutions like when you look at a pic with less pixels you only see those pixels.
46. arch_angel (Posts: 1651; Member since: 20 Feb 2015)
On A Smartphone The Display Resolution Does Affect The FPS Of Games. Doesn't Matter If A QHD Device Renders Games In 1080p Or Not, A Phone With The Same Internals As The QHD Device. Equipped With An FDH Display, That Device Will Have Better FPS That The QHD Device Even If Both Render The Same Games In 1080p.
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I Think GFX Sucks But In This Case It Proves My Point Cause It Renders In 1080p An 720p When Testing Devices.
2. Pattyface (Posts: 1584; Member since: 20 Aug 2014)
That price is just too much imo. I'm rooting for you Microsoft but work on that price and bit
7. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 2581; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
None of today's SmartPhones deserve that price for what they offer IMO. They're just limited pocket computers and I can't justify paying the price of a Surface Pro for such limited devices. The OnePlus One was the first reasonably priced SmartPhone and many more are spawning from it (not including the OnePlus Two)...
Once SmartPhones finally evolve to this (http://goo.gl/Z5XMeZ), then I wouldn't feel ripped off paying such a hefty prices of today's SmartPhones. Money is no problem, just hate ripoffs with a passion.
27. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
That is what it has evolved to though...
With continuum support, keyboard mouse support it is doing what those pictures show. Does it look like that? NO.
However, price is subjective, the technology in the phone isn't on the lower end. The OnePlus is great, but it is lacking in some areas compared to this phone. Not only that it entered a saturated market and had to make a name for itself and it was a b to get. So you cannot expect all flagships to come in at 400bucks.
36. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 2581; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
Windows Phones are definitely on the right track and are slowly getting there, but still have a long way to go before they become as versatile as that. Continuum currently just scales bastardized Windows store apps for the Desktop, the phones currently don't support full-fledged desktop apps, and they're still plain cheap looking compared to that.
Regarding "lower end" phones, dude, the OnePlus One is a Galaxy S5 priced right. The Galaxy S5 had advantages of:
- More water resistant
- Removeable battery
- MicroSD card slot
- IR Blaster
- Fingerprint Reader
- Better quality screen (only noticeable when you put it side-by-side)
- Higher res and officially better rear camera (but doesn't make the OPO's own bad, especially with the OPPO camera app available along with it's F2.0 aperture size vs. the S5's f2.2)
All but the latter 2 advantages are gone in this Note 5. The OnePlus One has the advantages of:
- More premium magnesium build casing
- Bigger screen and better screen to body ratio
- Higher res and better front facing camera
- 3GB of RAM for better multitasking (instead of just 2GB)
- 64GB built-in storage (instead of just 32GB)
- Officially bloatware free
- Privacy Guard (a feature the S5 will be getting with Marshmallow)
- Officially supports Root, so, tweak to your heart's content with software like XPosed (which literally gives you the ability to gain all of the GS5's features without installing a different ROM) and you'll still have a great official community to support you.
- OS is both carrier and manufacturer independent. So, not only would I receive updates faster, but when both OnePlus and Samsung stop developing for the One and GS5, respectively, would still be receiving updates from Cyanogen for my OnePlus One and won't need to switch to a non-official ROM, facing compatibility problems around every corner...
- Better price
So, with all those advantages over the double-priced S5, not sure what you mean by "the technology isn't in the lower end"...
40. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I would reply more but it is obvious you are not getting it. Camera was weak and dissappointing, battery life weak, 3GB of ram is not ZOMG expensive and multitasking is only good when a battery supports it, it failed there. We can go on about S5 usb 3 support, fast charging. And front facing cam is like 3 bucks. OS is of personal choice, despite it not getting carrier bloat it cant take advantage of carrier things like wifi calling, though you can do 3rd party work arounds.
I am not a root person, used to be, but lost interest so I don't care about rootability. Others do, +1.
Continuum is not some upscaled app like android screen share. THIS RIGHT HERE SHOWS YOU KNOW LITTLE OF THE PROJECT. Then again I am sure you can google it and come in here acting like you know the concept.
You can experience said apps RIGHT NOW on the desktop. Download News app from MS, Excel (which yes lacks some features), and others will come as the tools are finished. Continuum app is an anywhere app. It is not a mobile app, not a desktop app, it is an adjusting to device app.
I am not saying it needs to be 700, cheaper is always better, but look at what phones have come out of the OnePlus profits...
Oneplus 2, no nfc, no sd card, no removable battery. More expensive than what it is replacing. Samsung has produced how many phones with its profits? 30+?
I want my next phone to be cheap, I just bought my 1520 for 200bucks and don't like to think my future replacement is 700+. But it is only worth the price someone is willing to pay.
41. MrElectrifyer (Posts: 2581; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)
You're obviously just pulling claims out if your behind, stopped reading right after the BS claim of "the battery was weak"...here are some red pills from PhoneArena (bit.ly/1PqdP2O) and TechnoBuffalo (bit.ly/1Pqenpw), take them when you're ready to end your BS spree.
42. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Here is some true pills, not the only tech site to quote weaker than expected battery
Now compare that to what I feel the oneplusone competitor (similarspecs) 1520:
Point being for 350-400 new, if you had an invite, or prepare for 100$+ to grab out unofficially when it was released. You are getting less camera, less battery life, no sd slot, more malware prone OS (subjective however but is an issue), no FM Radio, No NFC. And again this is IF you got your hands on one.
They each have their cons, but don't act like somehow just because its 350 bucks it is somehow a flagship killer, its not. Not when you cant buy one. It could have everything and 200buck price point but if you cant buy it, whats the point...
At any rate it is clear you think just because the OnePlus was priced under 400 that all flagships should be that price....
3. Bedz81 (Posts: 83; Member since: 30 Dec 2012)
If the 950 was cheaper than the X Style then maybe i would have as backup but that price is sky high for an SD808 device. I'm still intrigued by WP as an old time user of WM6.5 and older
20. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
same here, I am interested but will never buy in such a high price point... it is just a windows phone, not high end android
4. Michael.Parker (Posts: 273; Member since: 22 Aug 2015)
Windows Mobile phones just aren't worth premium prices with it's still massive lack of apps.
And before anyone starts yes I do know WM has most of the big name apps but it's the hundreds of thousands of other apps it lacks that kills it.
6. Deaconclgi (Posts: 405; Member since: 03 Nov 2012)
1. Windows Mobile ended with Windows Mobile 6.5.
2. What massive lack of Apps am I missing and that will kill it for ME as a potential buyer of these new Windows 10 Mobile phones?
43. KBoom (Posts: 2; Member since: 23 Sep 2015)
Windows 10 Mobile is not officially released yet, so Windows Phone didn't end.
28. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Do you have hundreds of thousands of apps installed? I agree it needs major played stuff, like clash of clans, snapchat (which I am dumbfounded is even a thing) etc. However, it is not totally useless and in many ways imo above the rest.
So hardware, yes certainly worth the price, all we need is the emulator for apk to become public and we wont care about apps.
11. joey_sfb (Posts: 5526; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)
Microsoft hardware are always premiums price. I learnt that early with their PC hardware and Xbox accessories. When they have a sustainable customer base the price will remain high.
Lumia is the first time i see Microsoft slashing its price aggressively. Might be better to hold for 3 - 6 months for a better price point. Besides Windows 10 prove that it may still need time to grow to a more stable OS.
33. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
I don't think so if it matters it have a lot more advantages from 8.1 and 7.
12. Cheezwiz (Posts: 430; Member since: 29 Dec 2014)
bundle $700, fine. But that better mean that I can get the regular phone for $500.
I'll decide for myself if I want all that extra crap.
MS is as bad as the shady car dealer who only wants to sell you the car with the extra options, trying to convince you that you "need" them..
16. killerpollo (Posts: 89; Member since: 15 May 2015)
looool, the final nail in the coffin was that price, getting a OP2 or Moto X style or LG G4, great value at around $400 us dollars, at $650 and beyond you better sell me some f**king NASA s**t.
34. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
No one asks you to buy it and wtf no one cares about prices like at all none of those phones are selling good.
38. killerpollo (Posts: 89; Member since: 15 May 2015)
u kiddin right?, moto x currently sold out on best buy...
17. WallStreetWolf (Posts: 289; Member since: 08 Apr 2013)
I assume the 950 standard will also include a grouping of accessories. These prices are much to high to be a standalone device and nothing else.
21. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
I dont want to be bound to take whatever microsoft is bundling... not interested... rather I will choose and buy whatever I think is necessary, not what microsoft think is necessary... I am angry because I am interested to buy 950 but not interested to get rip off
29. elitewolverine (Posts: 5172; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
No one is forcing you to, go find a seller that doesn't bundle and go on your way. Not that hard. And its far from a ripoff when its competitors are of the same price.
18. Switch00 (Posts: 437; Member since: 04 Sep 2013)
Name one SERIOUS reason why I should buy such a phone if I have Lumia 1520 lying in my drawer.
22. Taters (banned) (Posts: 6474; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Those prices will drop like crazy soon enough. No one will buy at low prices, let alone these sky high ones.
23. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
at low price I will buy if the camera has improvement over 930
24. 497362 (Posts: 60; Member since: 27 Aug 2015)
too expensive for me. budget phones do what I need. why pay more?
26. gazmatic (Posts: 794; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)
anybody who spends more than $600 for any phone, is an idiot.
most phones dont cost more than $250 to make. I may pay up to $599 for a $250 phone but I generally dont pay more than $450 for any phone.
Even if I have to wait a while for the price to drop... to normal levels. there's profit and then there's gouging.
35. hound.master (Posts: 1044; Member since: 27 Feb 2015)
No you are an idiot is only iphone with costs only that but all other manufactures spend so much on R&D with makes no room to cut the prices!
44. KBoom (Posts: 2; Member since: 23 Sep 2015)
To produce one iPhone 5 Apple put in $75. They were sold for $650. That's a bit too much compared to production costs...
39. snowgator (Posts: 3564; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
This is a very risky price, if it holds accurate in all markets. I am a Windows user, so I am their audience. I buy at full price without contract and without the carrier gimmick "JUMP", "NEXT", or whatever they are that you pay over time, end up actually paying more, and buy another phone before paying it off keeping you in the fold.
In other words: I am MS's market for mobile phones. Do not price me out of the conversation, MS.