Another day, another official Android Pie update for a modest Nokia phone

Another day, another official Android Pie update for a modest Nokia phone
Fast software updates are not everything, but when it comes to low and mid-end devices like last year's Nokia 2.1 or 2017's original Nokia 6, it's hard to think of a better way to feel appreciated as a user than receiving an early promotion to the newest OS version.

Believe it or not, it's already time for yet another Nokia-branded Android smartphone to embrace stable Android Pie goodies, as announced earlier today on Twitter by Juho Sarvikas, HMD Global's Chief Product Officer. HMD, mind you, is the lesser-known name of the actual company behind Nokia's spectacular resurgence and industry-leading focus on software support over the past couple of years.

Interestingly, the Nokia 5.1 is officially following the suit of the significantly humbler 2.1 and 3.1, as well as the older Nokia 5, on the Android 9.0 bandwagon today. Of course, it'd be pretty absurd to complain about the "late" update of the 5.5-incher unveiled almost a year ago. After all, this is hardly a powerhouse, especially compared to some of the phones other companies haven't been able to update just yet, packing a fairly modest MediaTek Helio P18 processor and up to 3GB RAM.


While the Nokia 5.1 was expected to be released stateside at one point, that never materialized. Considering the mid-ranger's very reasonable price point across Europe, its premium build quality, decent screen, and overall respectable specs and features, that makes us rather sad. On the bright side, you can purchase a US-compatible variant of the notched Nokia 5.1 Plus (with Android 9.0 Pie) from B&H Photo Video in exchange for a crazy affordable $200.

Back to the 5.1, we should probably mention this was the last remaining Nokia model running Oreo among devices scheduled to get Pie by the end of March. Next up, the ancient Nokia 3 and Nokia 1 are slated to join the modern software party sometime in "early Q2." Incredibly enough, that's going to complete the brand's blazing fast Android 9.0 rollout for its entire product portfolio.

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5.1
  • Display 5.5" 1080 x 2160 pixels
  • Camera 16 MP / 8 MP front
  • Processor MediaTek Helio P18, Octa-core, 2000 MHz
  • Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
  • Battery 2970 mAh

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32 Comments

1. Sweetcheese

Posts: 35; Member since: Aug 23, 2018

Nokia for the win. My next smartphone must be a nokia

2. Pabliell

Posts: 174; Member since: Mar 22, 2016

I own a Nokia 8 and can say for sure that my next phone won't be a Nokia. Pie update is full of smaller and bigger bugs, yet there's no fix on the horizon. I moved back to Oreo and I'm happy on a stable system.

5. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Nice to get some credible feedback from nonbiased users of Nokia phones. I actually have the 7.1 and so far it has been a snappy experience which is far from what I can say about my experience with the 6.1. I have read several comments about issues with the Pie update in other Nokia devices, so you are definitely not alone. It's hard to say if I will get another Nokia phone. I already passed on the Pureview as I wasn't really all that wowed about it and everything else that they are releasing are low end foodstamp phones.

7. Mahesh_K

Posts: 14; Member since: May 28, 2016

You are unfortunate that you chose the wrong product. But I came to know that they are trying hard to fix the issues and most importantly, the camera. Please give them some more time. You will be proud of your phone.

9. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Unlike those that pretend to own Nokia branded smartphones, I actually own several. My experiences with them has been great. HMD definitely has less much less issues with Pie than Google does with its Pixel line, which is sad since Google owns the platform and the hardware. It’s the reason why I have passed on Google’s Pixel line, choosing the far less problematic Nokia Android line for my stock Android needs. I would nave gone the Essential Phone route for stock Android, but that phone has proved to be as issue prone as the Pixel line, and there may not be an Essential Phone 2 due to the abysmal sales and issues.

12. Pabliell

Posts: 174; Member since: Mar 22, 2016

I own one Nokia device and my experience was very good, until the Pie update came in. It felt like I'm using a beta, so I downgraded. XDA has some good tutorials. I might try Pie again in few months, when they fix the issues I had, but for now I'm happy on Oreo.

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Not saying that you specifically don’t own one, but there are others that like to comment here saying they do when they don’t. It’s a dead giveaway when a supposed tech enthusiast doesn’t even know what SoC the smartphone they claim to own is using. When you say “beta”, it reminds me of what the Pixel is, a beta phone, lol. I’m sure whatever issues you are facing with your Nokia 8, HMD will address them, as it certainly has less issues than the Pixel line, and as you admit, Oreo is just fine on your Nokia 8. Could be an issue with Pie itself. For the record, HMD did forewarn of issues with Pie for the Nokia 8/8 Sirocco, which is why it was delayed to begin with. These issues have not plauged the other Nokia branded smartphones on Pie, for the most part. Thanks for sharing your honest experiences, as opposed to changing actual facts to suit a false narrative like some habitually do here.

17. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

That's just some people way of denying the truth. They think people are pretending just because they are bothered by others opinions. Then they deflect by bringing up the Essential phone that isn't even relevant to the discussion lol. They are even going as far as saying that the Pixel phones are beta phones even though Nokia phones are sometimes the same way. Like I said before, I own the 7.1 and it's has been a snappy experience so far, which is more than what I can say about the 6.1 that I had to return.

27. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Like I said before, I recently copped that jawn the 7.1 and so far it has been a snappy experience. Hopefully it stays that way.

22. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

There are certain people here that like to pretend to own something in order to justify their trolling of it. I have outed one person in particular that is on his 10th account here because of me. They also get so triggered whenever I bring up facts about the Essential Phone and Pixel line of smartphones. Like I said before, some people like to claim that they own certain smartphones like the Nokia 7.1 and 6.1, even though they don't and can't even name the processor in the 6.1.

28. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

There are some people who are in denial that they think someone's lying just because they had a negative experience with a device from their favorite OEM. The funny thing is that proof from others who have left feedback is available, but fake geniuses rather live in their own delusions rather than see the truth. Hence why they continue to project their multiple accounts onto others because they are running from their geek past. They get so triggered about the Pixel and the Essential phone just because they are more available than a Nokia phone is. Some people like to hold on to a false narrative because they are too stubborn to see past their own blind bias.

30. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

You literally just described yourself with your comment.

29. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Like I said before, some people love to pretend they own what they do not to justify their trolling of it.

3. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Agreed. I own a few Nokia branded Android smartphones, and my next smartphone purchase will definitely be one as well. Great software support, build quality and Stock Android.

4. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Awesome. Other OEM's can learn from HMD with regards to updating their fleet of smartphones.

6. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Eww, mediatek. No thanks. I don't really care for Qualcomm that much but I'll take Crapdragon any day. Nokia's doing what the old Motorola used to do and that's keep their phones updated. The plain stock interface and zero bloatware makes it pretty straightforward although Pie is pushing 7 months old now.

8. Mahesh_K

Posts: 14; Member since: May 28, 2016

You are imperatively justifying your name... No Crapdragon, no Mediatek. Then what? Trashynos?

15. domfonusr

Posts: 1052; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

Sometimes he talks like he is (not so) secretly an Apple fan... sometimes he reminds me of that dude "The_Miz" from back in the day.

16. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lol, it is rather obvious that he's (not so) secretly an Apple fan, isn't it?

20. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Not as obvious as you giving yourself a thumbs up with your other accounts.

23. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Stop projecting.

19. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound right now? It's not the processors that I have a problem with. You know it's possible to hate a company but like the products, right? Do you understand it now or do I have to draw it in crayons for you?

18. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I don't have a problem with the Snapdragon processors. I just have a problem with the company being greedy because they know a lot of Android OEMs depend on them for their processors.

10. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

It’s great to see HMD consistently updating their Nokia branded smartphones, even the low end ones, to the latest version of Android (Pie) as Q hasn’t been officially released yet. They currently have the best track record out of all the OEM’s that offer more than 4 phones as far as updating their fleet to the next version of Android, including Motorola and others that use near stock/stock Android.

11. Habib111

Posts: 22; Member since: Feb 12, 2019

It's great to get updates but the Google is messing with pie. I got old Nokia 6 and they've done fabulous job in the matter of updates but the best performance was upto the last year's Oreo 8.1 and the Google doesn't consider about two year old phones. I hope Nokia do something about the bugs for the old phones or revert back to Oreo 8.1

14. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

While some will say that you are trying to shift blame, I’m beginning to think the issue lies more with Google as well. Perhaps Pie doesn’t mesh well with older hardware/hardware components?

21. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I don't think they are taking the time to do under the hood improvements like they did with marshmallow iirc. A year of fine tuning instead of new features or an incremental update instead of the next version update for Android would have been a better idea. I'm not going to be like some people who like to assume things such as shifting the blame.

24. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Once again, I agree with you. I'm not going to be like someone here and disagree with you just because it's you when it's clear that this person has no valid argument or reason for doing so, and blame it on things like "no under the hood improvements", which is a baseless argument.

25. Venom

Posts: 2962; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Like I said before, I'm not going to be like some people who are ignorant enough to assume things like shifting the blame. They are so quick to point the finger over holding their favorite OEM accountable. They think people are disagreeing with them just because it's them. Imagine having such a flawed way of thinking.

32. meanestgenius

Posts: 21323; Member since: May 28, 2014

Like I’ve been saying, it’s hilarious how some people are so ignorant and get so defensive when one has an opinion that differs from theirs. No one is shifting blame. They are so quick to point the finger at OEM’s they don’t favor and turn a blind eye to the issues of the OEM’s they do favor. They think people having a different opinion from them means they are wrong, and they often attack certain people for no other reason than because it’s them. Imagine having such a flawed and ignorant way of thinking.

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