Huawei finally has had enough of U.S. bullying

Huawei finally has had enough of U.S. bullying
Yesterday, the Trump administration gave Huawei a temporary license allowing it to source parts and components from U.S. firms for three months. Just last Thursday, the company and 68 of its affiliates were placed on the Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) Entity list. Companies on the list are prevented from sourcing U.S. components and parts without a license issued by the U.S. government. The 90-day reprieve will allow the company to buy supplies from U.S. firms that are "necessary to maintain and support existing and currently fully operational networks and equipment, including software updates and patches." Google today followed suit, promising to send Android updates to the manufacturer through August 19th.

Huawei is not exactly jumping up and down over its short-term reprieve. According to Reuters, the company said today that it was victimized by U.S. "bullying." Being placed on the Entity List followed years of accusations from U.S. lawmakers concerned that Huawei was spying, or could be forced to spy on American consumers and corporations on behalf of the communist Chinese government. Amid fears that Huawei devices and networking equipment contain a backdoor that can send intelligence to Beijing, Huawei was declared a threat to U.S. national security as far back as 2012. Over the last year, as global mobile carriers started building out their 5G networks, the Trump administration has continually warned allies not to use the firm's networking gear. This recommendation has been heeded by Australia, Japan, and New Zealand.

Last week, Huawei chairman Liang Hua visited the U.K.; regulators in the country are deciding whether to allow the company's 5G networking equipment to be used there. Liang told the media that Huawei would sign a "no-spy" contract with any country.

Huawei not yet totally self-reliant when it comes to chips according to experts


The battle between the U.S. and Huawei escalated earlier this year when the U.S. Department of Justice slapped the company with a 13 count indictment. Huawei, two affiliates (Huawei Device USA and Skycom Tech) and CFO Meng Wanzhou were charged with committing various bank-related crimes. The U.S. said that the company tried to cover up business it did with Iran, violating international economic sanctions placed on the country. At the same time, the U.S. charged the manufacturer with stealing trade secrets from T-Mobile. Huawei was already found guilty in civil court of stealing parts from the carrier's Tappy robot used to test smartphones and was ordered to pay T-Mobile nearly $5 million dollars.


Huawei shipped over 200 million handsets last year and was the second largest smartphone manufacturer in the world during the first quarter of this year. The company hoped to take over the top spot from Samsung next year, but obviously, that is now in question depending on what happens following the three-month reprieve. While Huawei is expected to roll out its own operating system this fall with native support for all Android apps, the company's Google Play Store replacement won't include popular American based apps such as YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and WhatsApp. The question isn't whether these replacements will go over in China, but whether they will satisfy users outside of Huawei's home market where it sells 49% of its phones (according to Q1 stats).

And while Huawei is confident in its ability to replace U.S. hardware, software, and components that it might no longer have access to in 90-days, it still has to replace $11 billion in parts purchased from U.S. companies last year such as Qualcomm, Intel and Micron Technologies. Yes, Huawei designs its own chips, but it uses software from U.S. companies to do this. Chip experts say that Huawei is still a few years away from being totally self-reliant in this area.

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57 Comments

1. BCMWorld

Posts: 59; Member since: Mar 24, 2014

Wow cool story thanks for sharing, congratulations to US and Huawei

53. sgodsell

Posts: 7419; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Huawei will sign any document or paper saying they won't spy is kind of a submission that maybe you were actually spying. But signing a paper or document just doesn't mean much from a Country like China. They copy, they take, they use patents, and do other things that wouldn't be allowed in any democracy. China wants things their way, and without any repercussions, or care for any intellectual property from other companies. China doesn't care about anyone but China.

2. dimas

Posts: 3380; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Bullying victim my ass. But when the Chinese govt spy on google or force people to boycott US products like apple, it's patriotic. Stop the crocodile tears, huawei you've been doing those shady deals with your tech business partners for years.

6. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

Proof?..... No? Typical American mind, you think you can judge people, countries, based on how you feel and take action without any proof. Man one day, karma is a bit€h.

13. AbhiD

Posts: 838; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Oh yes, Karma is a bitch... YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp, Dropbox, Tumblr etc just remembered China.

17. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

Again, do some research before commenting. China didn't ban them, they wanted access on some of their products to monitor Chinese citizens, Google said no at the beginning so China blocked these specific products but not Google. Same with the others.

54. sgodsell

Posts: 7419; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Are dumb? Google was banded from China long before their was any iPhone, or Android smartphone. China blocked Google's Search because they didn't want certain things to be shown to their people. Things that put China in a negative light. There is so much stuff that China has done that automatically puts China in a negative light.

29. Marcwand3l

Posts: 446; Member since: May 08, 2017

The internet is mostly blocked in China anyway so mentioning "YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp, Dropbox, Tumblr etc" is quite pointless.

45. Dealler

Posts: 22; Member since: May 03, 2019

But in other than Chinese markets it´s a big problem. No one will buy a phone without those apps outside of China.

55. sgodsell

Posts: 7419; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

So Huawei will live on in China. It's just that Huawei wants to live on in the democrate world, then Huawei will have to abide by the rules of the democratic nations. That includes companies patents and their intellectual property. So Huawei can easily make their own OS, and app store. But if any apps that are found on Huawei's new app store, and they do not have the explicit permission from the developers. Then Huawei's app store will be shutdown in those countries that abide to the governing bodies in those countries.

18. dimas

Posts: 3380; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

You want proof? They got sued for 'tappy' and they lost. They send employees to their business partners and get all info without permission. And how can you explain that they also have the huawei fold when samsung's g fold production was very confidential? When google don't want to get "regulated" by China (which is their other word for having "used for intel purposes"), google had massive ddos attacks by chinese hackers, tracing roots from chinese govt. ip address. Apple users in china are getting forced to buy chinese-branded phones which is a perfect definition anti-competitive. In india where karma originated, it is considered a good energy so yeah, I want loads of karma because it's not a bitch.

23. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

Tappy, if it's true, that is called industrial spionage, all companies do it, Apple, Google and the whole lot. The foldable phone, they didn't need to steal anything, the idea was floating around since 2011 by Samsung. Regulating data is China's policy, here in Europe we feel the same about the crappy death of net neutrality in the US. If you want to enter a market, you play by their rules. But what the US did is only to control 5G because their equipment is not advanced enough to compete against Huawei

40. Subie

Posts: 2378; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

@ IT-Engineer, It's not about how advanced their equipment is. It's about having control over what is becoming extremely vital infrastructure. China has extreme control over their own networks and the internet and your attitude is oh well we have to play by their rules. But if a country that once was more open like the U.S. now wants to become more closed and have more control - you cry foul... With the internet of things becoming ever more depended on by people this is something that I think all nations should take seriously. Lest we become a nation like those who can't even dig a well for drinking water without outside help.

41. Droid1

Posts: 30; Member since: Oct 06, 2017

US 5g equipment is good but Huawei's is much cheaper.

52. jacky899

Posts: 431; Member since: May 16, 2017

The T-Mobile Tappy robot lawsuit of "almost $5 million" is the smallest lawsuit you will hear and you will only hear it constantly because it is used as propaganda against Huawei. Compare that with the never ending $billion IP lawsuits between Qualcomm, Apple, Samsung, Nvidia, Intel, etc. E.g., Certain Iphones are being banned from Germany and software required to be updated to remove Qualcom IP in China. Using your logic, wouldn't that make Huawei far less of a thief than the above companies? Please provide evidence that Huawei's Mate was stolen from Samsung. The only thing I've read is a Korean supplier, Toptec, was accused of selling or wanting to sell Samsung oled drawings to a chinese company half a year ago, which Toptec denied completely. Whether they really did or which company they sold to is still unknown. If it was Huawei or BOE, being Samsung's largest competitors it would be all over the news. On the other hand Huawei have been sued and charged much less frequent and for much less damages for IP theft than any other large companies including Apple, Intel, Microsoft, Samsung, Nvidia, etc. When it comes to IP theft, Samsung is high up on the listhttps://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-nucurrent-lawsuit-846179/

3. briankeithmays

Posts: 34; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

This is the truth! The USA does not want China to dominate the 5g market! Also because of apples poor global sales and Huawei move towards being number 1in smartphone sales the US decided to slow its growth. The USA is as corrupt as it gets.

5. Vokilam

Posts: 1258; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

wow, USA trying to do what's best for USA - horrible corruption, horrible!!! /s

7. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

Yeah, where are the rules of business and trade ? This mean China should boycott and set a ban on Apple and GM motors. Cause that's what bullying is, if you can't beat them in business and produce better product, then ban their products from your country because your sorry @ss can't play fair.

10. Vokilam

Posts: 1258; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

And you can be absolutely sure that Huawei aren’t doing anything illegal - that this is all a turf war?

15. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

How can you ban them if you are not sure whether they are doing anything illegal or not, you have no proof. Justice works the other around right?

20. dimas

Posts: 3380; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

"How can you ban them if you are not sure" excuse me, are you working for the secret intelligence? Because as far as I know, they know something about huawei that we don't because that is their job, not ours. Stop crying for huawei, they're not the lesser evil either.

36. slim3bdo

Posts: 186; Member since: Jun 05, 2017

Stupid logic Just like usa and uk raging war on iraq on secret intelligence of weapons of mass destruction . LoL , so you are ok with killing 1 million iraqi on the bases of secret intelligence . Think for your self , its just propaganda : 1- Huawei COULD BE spying or will be ORDERED to spy ( just as google and other usa companies were ordered by us government ) 2- american slave country such as new Zealand and japan follow suit ( no mention of germany asking for proof from usa , and thus giving usa the finger and refusing to ban huawei ) 3- Huawei WAS ( not is ) the second largest phone supplier 4- Huawei spend 11 billions on parts from American companies Typical us propaganda

11. AbhiD

Posts: 838; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

Wait! What did China do when it banned Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp, Dropbox, Tumblr etc in China? The reality is, American reaction to the Chinese dictatorship came quite late

16. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

China didn't ban them, they wanted access on some of their products to monitor Chinese citizens, Google said no at the beginning so China blocked these specific products but not Google. Same with the others. What your talking here is banning and entire company on a hunch with no proof and Huawei has opened up their products and source code for inspection and they passed. But as the guy said, United States of cheaters wants to control 5G but their products cannot match Huawei so they banned it.

22. dimas

Posts: 3380; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

"China didn't ban them, they wanted access on some of their products to monitor Chinese citizens, Google said no at the beginning so China blocked these specific products" See your hypocrisy there? You know that china is very dictative and hungry for eastern and western intel and US got no right to impose laws since they found Huawei as a security threat?

27. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

No, your wrong. As I said they didn't ban the company, only a specific product. You say the intelligence has some Intel on Huawei, okay fine. Bring it forward! But no they won't, how can you convict a man and at the same time withhold the evidence? Do you hear yourself talking?? Just like they bombed Iraq and caused the death of over a million civilian and they fabricated evidence of weapons of mass destruction and the UN found no proof of it. These guys you trust?

14. AbhiD

Posts: 838; Member since: Apr 06, 2012

What if one says the same about China? Under what threat did China ban US companies like Google, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, WhatsApp, Dropbox, Tumblr etc ?

25. Droid1

Posts: 30; Member since: Oct 06, 2017

I guess you didn't read the story, they violated US santions on Iran.

28. IT-Engineer

Posts: 564; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

Since when the US can tell other countries who to trade with? Are they world cops? These sanctions should apply only to American companies banning them from trade with Iran.

43. Droid1

Posts: 30; Member since: Oct 06, 2017

Other countries don't have to comply unless they do business with the United States. The US got out of a terrible nuclear missile ban that paid billions to Iran not to make nuclear missiles. Iran has taking that money and has used it to help fund terror groups around the world. The Iranians are in Syria they're in Iraq and Lebanon.

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